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Pfft, *accidentally*.
Also, ILU Varsooon.
Also, I don't think we're meant to "win", but rather to decide which cult wins.
Idk. This is weird, until we see a pause cycle and what happens, no way to figure much out mechanically.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Hmm. If there's a mechanic that allows the neutral survivors to win WITHOUT winning with either cult, that means there is likely at least two unrecruitable slots that have kills(so as to make it possible for the kills to outpace the recruiting). It seems unlikely, but sure, maybe it could happen under those circumstances.
Also, plz don't put pressure on me I just want a chill game, I only joined cuz Drealmerz specifically messaged me otherwise I'd still be on mafia hiatus.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Somewhere in the mods posts they said that actions, once submitted, can't be changed. Another post used the specific example of the cult recruiting someone one minute before the "hammer" vote is placed to grant them immunity, and said in that situation the cults recruit would resolve before the immunity occurred.
So, to answer your questions Venmar: Yes, and because the mod said so in one of the rules posts.
Post #2 to be exact.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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So, eh, can someone give me a really good reason why certain people should be made immune? That is, some good reasons for each person?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I can be your buddy.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yep.
Also part of why I told people to not give me immunity. I want to play the easy mode game and get recruited to a cult where I have more info and can coordinate shiz, or if I don't get recruited, at least not have any pressure on me because nobody will trust me.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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...In post 144, Inferno390 wrote:I feel like there is a lot of confusion on how the voting works, so let me try to clear it up and paraphrase what dreamer said:
All actions are submitted during Play phase.
Once enough votes are given for an immunization, Play phase immediately ends and goes to Pause phase. In this phase, any actions that were submitted in Play phase resolve, in the submitted order. So if cult recruits a person before they become immunized on the same phase, the recruiting happens and the immunization fails. Of course, survivor keeps the failed immunization to use again.
This is why we need to start ending phases quickly, because if we do that, it takes away opportunities for the cults to recruit.
No, actually we do not. See above.Lifthrasil wrote:I'm not entirely sure what the votes are worth on Day 1. All we know is, that the person who got a majority didn't change alignment during the next pause.The Cult Leaders know who's immune as well and will target someone else. But we have no information about the alignment of the votee to start with.
I really hope that we do have some investigative power roles around here!
I do have 2 questions:
What was with the hurt/heal tags? Was that a role thing? Because so one's explained that.
@MOD, can we change our vote?
I'd also like a VC if that's alright with all.
Leaning Venmar as cult leader based on his early take in the immunity issue.
Yes, we can change our vote. Explicitly outlined in post 1 or 2.
No, ending the day quickly doesn't keep cults from recruiting.
The best case scenario is if we organize quick immunities, then the cult doesn't get to recruit, and neither does the "town" get to use whatever powers they have, except for those people who were part of the original set of votes. That will happen one time, MAYBE. After that the cult will just recruit early in the day to make sure it doesn't happen again.
I really don't see any benefit in deliberately trying to turn this into a game of who can post/message the mod fastest.
If we force the cults to recruit early, what effect will that have on the game?
1) Cults will have to make their decision earlier in the day phase, thereby preventing them from "wasting" our immunity. This only applies if the cult recruiter is not among the individuals who are driving the immunity vote. Majority required, two recruiters, high likelihood that at least one of them will be around for whenever the hammer occurs, thereby negating this attempt.
2) All PR's must submit actions with minimum information. Right now, that MASSIVELY hurts the "town" since the cults haven't recruited anyone yet. Later on, it might be more beneficial to the town than the cults, but we'll never actually know where that threshold comes without a mass claim early enough in the game that we know at most 2 people are lying with malicious intent, which is something I don't recommend.
3) Anything else?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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@Varsoon: Would you rather play as a survivor and win the hard way, or be recruited?
This question goes to everyone who I've played with before. Well, anyone can answer it, but I'm specifically concerned with the responses of people who I'm familiar with.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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The Heal/Hurt thing is a joke some people do. I don't know the strength of opinion it expresses, but I read it as Heal=TR, Hurt=SR.
@Inferno: Again, the cult leaders don't need to be "really active"...they just need to be in the 50% more active half of the game, assuming everyone logs on and immediately votes for the same person(which obviously won't happen, and therefore reduced the activity requirements even further).
It's really not hard to see a wagon forming when people are deliberately pushing for a quick majority and pop the recruit anytime after it reaches the tipping point.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Meh, it was basically super obvious that any vigilantes that exist would have to be naturally immune, otherwise the random chance of recruiting a vig would be too impactful.In post 163, Inferno390 wrote:So what you're saying is that Vigs are naturally immune?
Why not keep that secret? You could have played a game that appealed to cult and gotten them to waste a night trying to get you.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Valid question.In post 166, Venmar wrote:
If this was hypothetically true, what positive motivation is there behind revealing or drawing attention to this fact?In post 157, Inferno390 wrote:Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.
pedit: screen isn't claiming anything. Explicitly. And nobody should ask him to claim anything explicitly.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I believe your reading comprehension is severely lacking Venmar.
People were suggesting that we attempt to quicklynch every day in order to keep the cult from negating our immunity voting, and I was outlining how doing so doesn't actually accomplish anything, therefore we shouldn't waste our time attempting it.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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...In post 176, Inferno390 wrote:I'm trying to say that there is some sort of flaw in what you are doing and I don't like it.
You could be misusing your vig claim.
Or you could be trying to protect a really powerful PR role with a fake vig claim.
Or you're trying to blend in by using assumptions about the gamestate.
Of course, you also be double bluffing and really be a immune vig trying to draw cult into thinking that you're trying to protect a powerful PR role.
And I honestly don't think that it's likely that all the killing roles are auto immunized, because that would mean that the cult would have to be able to kill every night should they want to try and take out the opposing cult. That just seems broken to me.
Inferno.
Do you realize that your last sentence doesn't make sense?
The reason why the killing roles would be autoimmunized is to PREVENT the cults from gaining the ability to kill, because then if either cult were to gain said power, they would essentially automatically win the game, since the other cult would never be able to attain a situation where they couldn't lose the majority, unless they ALSO recruited a vig of their own.
It's kinda possible that the cults could either kill or recruit, which makes things more interesting, but if it's possible for the "town" to win without a cult win also occurring, it's almost mandatory that kill sources exist which will never be controlled by the cults.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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ALSO.In post 176, Inferno390 wrote:I'm trying to say that there is some sort of flaw in what you are doing and I don't like it.
You could be misusing your vig claim.
Or you could be trying to protect a really powerful PR role with a fake vig claim.
Or you're trying to blend in by using assumptions about the gamestate.
Of course, you also be double bluffing and really be a immune vig trying to draw cult into thinking that you're trying to protect a powerful PR role.
And I honestly don't think that it's likely that all the killing roles are auto immunized, because that would mean that the cult would have to be able to kill every night should they want to try and take out the opposing cult. That just seems broken to me.
Who the fuck cares about all the crap you're talking about?
There are currently 2 non "town" slots in this game. Unless you think that it's most likely that screen is one of the cult leaders and is attempting to use the speculation about recruit immune vigilantes, while also having access to a kill himself so as to make a kill when forced to, as a vigilante usually is.....then pointing out the possibility that he's a vague isn't beneficial in any way.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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BUT WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO "TOWN" OF POINTING OUT THAT SCREENPLAY IS DOING SOMETHING????In post 185, Inferno390 wrote:Right, but unless the cult leaders have a kill every day ability, which I doubt, or they can recruit a killing role, they have only a few chances (probably 1 or 0) to take out the other cult leader, which is probably what a cult leader would want to do. I'm not saying a vig that can shoot every day, but 1 or 2-shot vigs that aren't auto immune is certainly a possibility.
p-edit: Or he could be a really powerful PR hiding behind an "auto immune vig claim" (I use this term loosely, because no one has confirmed this to actually be a role in this game nor has Screenplay actually claimed anything) to prevent cult trying to take it. Or any number of gambit or strats. All I'm saying is that Screenplay is definitely doing SOMETHING, and that should be paid attention to.
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Like, let's say you have a number of tells on a bunch of people in the game, and from those tells you know that like half of them are doing a variety of things early in D1, and you have this list with them marked down as like probable various PR's, or probably lying about x, where x isn't something that makes him more likely to be the cult, etc.
Would you think it advisable to share this entire list of conclusions you've arrived at with the entire game early on day one?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I appreciate your openness and honesty Jay.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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FYI, I am either the best or the worst person to grant immunity to, depending on whether granting immunity means the cult will actually recruit me 100% of the time.
So, yeah. *shrug*
@screenplay...don't ever fucking quote my posts without including the full context of a sentence, ESPECIALLY not in such an egregious fashion as to cut a sentence in fucking half.
I was going to say please, then I realized such behavior doesn't deserve the courtesy.
pedit:@inferno, I hate people sharing information that doesn't move the game state forward in a productive way. Early claims of PR's, shit like that, it's just idiotic and bad play, and I view what you're doing with regards to that slot as bad play, UNLESS you think they're a cult leader.
This is me telling you you're being dumb, and stop being dumb.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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...In post 236, Srceenplay wrote:
You know what you are saying.In post 204, Cerberus v666 wrote:fucking quote my posts without including the full context of a sentence,
It’s a lot easier to cut out the bs and just get the point.
Except you fucking didn't actually properly communicate my point? You spun that as though I was QUESTIONING whether or not you were doing anything, when what I was doing was questioning inferno on the town benefit to REVEALING the fact that you were doing something.
COMPLETELY different meaning between what you chose to quote, and what I actually said.
Don't fucking do it again.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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A50: From the signup thread.
Subject: Rocky Horror Picture Show - (FULL!) - PM to replace/observe
drealmerz7 wrote:do note that during the game I won't answer questions posed to me in the thread
Yes, the immunity is permanent and becomes in-effect the moment the majority vote is placed - any player voted to majority, even if they are unable to be given immunity due to any reason (which includes the cult leader and players already recruited), will cause the game to switch to the Pause state, triggering the queue of actions submitted during Play to resolve in order.
This means if playerA is a cult leader and submits the action to recruit playerX on 12:00pm Oct.1, 2020 and the majority vote for immunity is placed on playerX 12:01pm Oct.1, 2020, the vote will cause the game to go into the Pause state, but (assume nothing in the queue prior to 12:00 interferes with playerA) the recruitment will happen before the immunization and therefor the immunization will be void.
This means nothing happens to a cult leader or cultist if they are voted to immunity, but there is no indication of if the vote is effective or not.
There is a limited # of times players may be voted to immunity, but that # is hidden due to the fact that the information could be used to track. This means that, likely, at a certain point the vote for immunity mechanic will no longer be ieffective but I will not take it out of the game so there is no indication of the pace of effective immunization.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Anyways, if people want to immunize me, then I recommend if anyone has a PR that would allow them to make sure I'm not recruited, they should use it NOW, and we can move on. That way the last minute recruit thing won't work, and they'll be forced into recruiting me NOW if that's what they want to do.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I kinda want to request to be replaced so I can bother you until you tell me what this thing you believe to be a tell is!In post 251, Varsoon wrote:I'm not worried about Cerb being recruited at all.
I've got an ace up my sleeve--a tell Cerb always drops as scum/third party.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Perhaps you should put on your critical thinking hat and consider why someone would do that. There are only a couple good reasons, and the LEAST likely one is because I'm a cult leader.In post 249, northsidegal wrote:
don't like this, feels kind of like railroading both the immunization and any anti-recruit prs onto yourself while we're still pretty early in the game.In post 246, Cerberus v666 wrote:Anyways, if people want to immunize me, then I recommend if anyone has a PR that would allow them to make sure I'm not recruited, they should use it NOW, and we can move on. That way the last minute recruit thing won't work, and they'll be forced into recruiting me NOW if that's what they want to do.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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...In post 260, Inferno390 wrote:
actually, it's pretty likely, becasue as cult leader, if you can get the immunity vote and/or any anti-recruit PRs on you, it significantly hurts town.In post 258, Cerberus v666 wrote:
Perhaps you should put on your critical thinking hat and consider why someone would do that. There are only a couple good reasons, and the LEAST likely one is because I'm a cult leader.In post 249, northsidegal wrote:
don't like this, feels kind of like railroading both the immunization and any anti-recruit prs onto yourself while we're still pretty early in the game.In post 246, Cerberus v666 wrote:Anyways, if people want to immunize me, then I recommend if anyone has a PR that would allow them to make sure I'm not recruited, they should use it NOW, and we can move on. That way the last minute recruit thing won't work, and they'll be forced into recruiting me NOW if that's what they want to do.
Let's think about this.
24 players
2 cult leaders=2 recruits
1 immunity by the town, which as cult leader I could bypass by 1) recruiting as soon as the day starts, or 2)recruiting immediately before the hammer vote is placed(by myself, if need be).
How many anti-recruit PR's do you think there would need to be before I become concerned about hitting one of them with my recruit attempt, particularly considering the fact that if I just do 1, I can ignore them?
I sort of think basically everyone(except myself, and MAYBE Varsoon, of course) is approaching this game in a very stupid way, talking about shit like towniness and pointing out single things as suspicious, when we KNOW ALMOST EVERYONE IS FUNCTIONALLY TOWN AT THIS MOMENT.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Likely just to give the moderator time to get out necessary pm's for results and such. It is possible that there are "pause" only actions, but they aren't necessary logically.In post 263, northsidegal wrote:why is "pause" even a phase? i assume something must interact with that specifically, because otherwise it seems like everything would just be dealt with instantly, no?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I'm not grumpy. I just refuse to allow people to get away with misrepresenting my words. Instead of just quoting what I said, that fucker went ahead and quoted it, then removed all of the context. He took extra effort to make it appear as though I had said something different from what I said, and that's unacceptable.In post 277, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Why is this guy so grumpy? I think we should let a cult take him lol.In post 243, Cerberus v666 wrote:
...In post 236, Srceenplay wrote:
You know what you are saying.In post 204, Cerberus v666 wrote:fucking quote my posts without including the full context of a sentence,
It’s a lot easier to cut out the bs and just get the point.
Except you fucking didn't actually properly communicate my point? You spun that as though I was QUESTIONING whether or not you were doing anything, when what I was doing was questioning inferno on the town benefit to REVEALING the fact that you were doing something.
COMPLETELY different meaning between what you chose to quote, and what I actually said.
Don't fucking do it again.
UNVOTE:
pedit:@A50:I'll accept that plan, either that, or kill screenplay. I'm 100% serious, I'm not okay with dealing with someone who does this, and since this game doesn't have killing, I'm replacing pretty damn soon if someone doesn't kill him.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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For the record, Varsoon, if this were a normal game I'd say this post guarantees A50 as town. That is, this is just the sort of ridiculous plan he's propose.In post 304, Varsoon wrote:
"Let's waste our immunize!"In post 279, Almost50 wrote:
OK, I think I've got me a plan:In post 204, Cerberus v666 wrote:FYI, I am either the best or the worst person to grant immunity to, depending on whether granting immunity means the cult will actually recruit me 100% of the time.
1- Vote Cerb to be immunized
2- Shoot Cerb
This plan serves two purposes:
1- Make sure no culted-Cerb is in play
2- Give Cerb the opportunity to take his desired break from Mafia ASAP
No need to applause, but I'll accept checks and/or cash.
Fuck you, die.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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What are you going to do after June 8th this year? Change names?In post 380, Almost50 wrote:
Yep. June 8th 1968In post 375, Venmar wrote:A50 are you almost 5o years old?
Anyways. I'm quite over this discussion. Pick someone, let's move on.
And shoot screenplay or me tonight, vig. Preferably him because I'm certain of more use to any alignment I end up as than he would be, regardless of his role, but removing me from this mess would also make me happy.
Pedit: why the fuck are all these 90s kids using toonami as their dick measuring metric, when those shows were all reruns when they were watching them?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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...In post 394, JaydragonKing wrote:
You don't understand the pain of being an anime fan back then, you weakling. Toonami was basically the ressurection of Jesus himself.In post 391, Cerberus v666 wrote:[Pedit: why the fuck are all these 90s kids using toonami as their dick measuring metric, when those shows were all reruns when they were watching them?
Fucking pleb.
Somehow I think you don't realize that I'm actually older than you...and thus saw those shows when they were originally broadcast...and also frequented irc servers for to get my anime fix. Yeah. Series on fucking vhs.
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You. I like you.
<3
I'm almost willing to vote for you for this reason alone, but...not quite.
So, out of the people who are here, the only ones who I expect to be both useful and capable of communicating their points in a fashion understandable to others are A50, Varsoon, Vecna,Gamma, and Chickadee. The ones who I expect to make sense most of the time are Varsoon, Vecna, Gamma, and Chickadee. The ones in that set who won't be super biased, consciously or not, are Varsoon, Vecna, and Chickadee.
I think Varsoon and Vecna are both crazy pretty often. I think that leaves me with just Chickadee as someone who is rational, useful and communicative.
Is that a good enough reason to make Chickadee immune? I think so.
VOTE: Vote: ChickadeeGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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(Also, no offense intended to anyone who I excluded for one reason or another. Varsoon and Vecna propose SUPER ridiculous shit, and try ridiculous things themselves(in Varsoons case at least). A50 is in his own universe and frequently comes up with these insane conspiracy theory things, that make it hard to figure out what his objective actually is. Gamma...I just remember you were tunneled on someone in some game and ti was super hardcore and went far beyond reasonable.)
pedit: I've never played with screenplay prior to today, and I want him dead by the time play resumes. If he's still alive, 85% chance I'll replace, unless everyone else here is just super awesome. *shrug*
@Jay: I have faith that, unless chickadee was recruited earlier in the day, my mere proposal of her as our immunity target for today will ensure that measures will have been taken to keep her safe.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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A50: Follow me good sir. I will be shot tonight if you get your way, so grant this condemned man his request.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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It's impossible to tolerate. Hell, I can't stand it when people quote just text, without the person who posted/the post linked, and this goes far beyond that.In post 407, Venmar wrote:
Tbf I found his cutting of your quote quite obvious that he cut it, and that he manipulated it for a comedic purpose. Just kind of means you have to proof check the stuff he quotes but I can understand if its a playstyle that's hard to tolerate. *shrug* Replacing out seems like a drastic step when you could just ignore him if it bothers you that much.In post 404, Cerberus v666 wrote:pedit: I've never played with screenplay prior to today, and I want him dead by the time play resumes. If he's still alive, 85% chance I'll replace, unless everyone else here is just super awesome. *shrug*
I appreciate your sentiment, and normally I WOULDN'T allow that behavior to ruin my own enjoyment of the game, but I'm not invested enough to care about that. *shrug*GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Anyways, yeah, Venmark and Jay, vote for Chickadee, it's a good choice. She even asked someone to not vote for her, which is another point in her favor!GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Too late, the die has been cast.In post 410, Chickadee wrote:I have to ask again, to please not vote me. In fact Cerb, if you unvote me, I'll do something for you.
We have passed the point of no return.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Also, the fact that you can do something for me is EVEN MORE REASON to make you immune.
So there's that.
You also shouldn't do the thing today, because I'm certain you'll still be a survivor tomorrow, and you'll be an immune survivor, therefore you can do the thing with more information. Unless you can do the thing all the time, then you should do it today anyways. ^^GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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@Venmar: Doesn't matter.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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@A50: Were I a cult leader, I would have started the day recruiting someone(probably someone I knew nothing about, but that's uncertain), to make sure that my action resolved before any potential protections, so there'd be no uncertainty on my part about why a recruit failed. Every day thereafter I'd likely do the same thing, until we reached a point where mathematically it was unlikely protectives remained who would be working for the side of the "town", and then I'd move to cancel out immunities via my recruiting.
That's almost certainly the optimal way to play this, if all the leader can do is recruit.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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o.o
That. Is an interesting thing.
Did someone use something to make that happen?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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In post 419, Cerberus v666 wrote:o.o
That. Is an interesting thing.
Did someone use something to make that happen?
Only answer that if your answer will conclusively determine whether or not the two named are cult now, as well as whether or not we can trust that post to be true.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Indeed. it could also be that they were immunized.
Seems more likely to me that one of the two of them had a power that let them make someone else immune, and would also make themselves immune at the same time, so they used it once they could figure out who they wanted to immunize.
I don't know dunker, so i can't think of why creature would want to immunize them, or why dunker would want to immunize creature. *shrug*GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Now, everyone voting for Jay, should follow Jay, now that they've endorsed Chickadee, the same way those who are voting for me, should also vote for Chickadee, since I endorsed them. Then we'll be up to like 8 votes on Chickadee, and it'll be unstoppable, and we can just move on to the next play phase. ^^GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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A50, are you paying attention? Jay was the leader for like 24 hours, and thus fails your initial test of making a choice who hasn't been previously suggested.In post 469, Almost50 wrote:So, what's the vote count (for reals)? We need to consolidate on wagons, and I suggest NOW is a good time to pick a new target hat hasn'r been brought up before (so it'd be much less likely they got targeted be the recruitment). I as going to say this in my previous post (the one where I commented on the mod's declaration on Creature/Dunker losing virginity), but I decided to wait just in case the cult leaders were waiting to see who was being wagoned.
Since dreal said it was close to the end of he day back then, I figure the cult leaders most likely did submit their action already (which cannot be modified, remember?)
Some how about we all go for: Lifthrasil/Vecna/Nancy Drew 39/northsidegal/JaydragonKing
I think that's a big enough a pool to pick from.
VOTE: Jay
Reason: I know him to be good at Scum and if recruited he could very well fool most if not all of us. Fortunately there's no killing ability for the Scum to get rid of those who won't fall for his trickery, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
NSG I've never seen Scum!her but she's good at Town, so I'm akin the risk of maybe being able to see a definitive difference in her play if she gets recruited.
Vecna has been giving too much advice I think it will show if his alignment changes. I think his play alone should guarantee he won't be recruited (or at least I hope it does).
Lifthrasil I don't know, but -based on activity- I wouldn't be bothered recruiting him on D1 if I was a leader
Nancy Drew 39 I remember the name, but I'm not sure if we did play together, and she hasn't even posted yet, so probably not a recruitment target either.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I actually think that makes it more likely that he didn't lie. Looks to me like he had a triggered ability to make himself and somekne else immune, claimed to be immune early in case he didn't want to use it todqy, and then ended up using it. The "virgin" moniker makes sense as representing recruitables, rather than specifically indicating those with the Virgin role(given that the impressionable transylvanians are functionally identical to virgins), so unless there are more recruitable on top of the 16 noted on that post, it makes sense that the transylvanians are included in the count of recruitable individuals.In post 599, mutantdevle wrote:In post 317, Dunkerdoodles wrote:oh btw im unrecruitable so don't bother tryingIn post 417, drealmerz7 wrote:I would like to inform all of you that only Virgins may be recruited, the number of you totaling 16
Is it just me or does this imply that Dunker lied to us? He claims he is unrecruitable yet the flavour suggests DunkerIn post 417, drealmerz7 wrote:Creature and Dunkerdoodles have recently been spotted sneaking out of the toolshed out back - hair and clothes all askew Perhaps they should erase the V?
Virgin count: 14wasrecruitable but now isn't. I'm not sure what this means for Dunker, but I really want to know what he has to say about losing his virginity to Creature, like some clarification from people who know what the flavour means would be nice.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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A50, you're certainly overestimating my reputation with this playerlist. Perhaps if there were other people here it wold be likely, but I've played with less than half of the people here, and not necessarily in games where I was impressive.
I do agree that any competent cult would have made their recruits as soon as the game started though, making all this discussion likely pointless.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Also, if dunk and creature did not perform their immunization, then it likely means a third party decided they were unlikely to be cult leaders or culted. Meh. I don't think it warrants any more consideration until someone claims what they did and explains it.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Why are you asking Vecna in particular that?
GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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In post 728, Venmar wrote:^ why would that piece of information even be important?In post 725, Venmar wrote:
i think this is genuine, i'm willing to put my faith in a50 barring future misteps that might make me think otherwiseIn post 712, Almost50 wrote:Immunized.. with just one look at you I'm paralyzed
I can't explain, but all Varsoon's posts drive me insane
You've got me on your side
You better believe it
Baby, and I know how it feels
Cross my heart, hope to die
May lightning strike me if I'm telling a lie
Cross my heart, I swear it's true
I've never made love with someone but I think it's now all through
Cross my heart, it's true
(That's a crumb I was a Virgin, and I received nothing in my inbox so I'm assuming the immunization worked fine)
as far as i am concerned there are now 4 cultists in the game andwe should now be heavily hovering over people's interactions, or maybe more importantly,definitely in support of making this cycle a bit longer to weed that out.change, in interactions.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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99% chance that voting here guarantees we will both not hit someone who is already immune/not a virgin, and that they will not be recruited this phase.
Only chance of failure is if they were recruited yearerday.
100% serious, this is a guaranteed thing, we can carry on with everything else but this is the mechanically optimal choice to make.
VOTE: JaydragonkingGTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Because I don't recall you holding vecnas opinion in high regard in the previous phase? Therefore, this is a change in attitude worth noting.In post 736, Venmar wrote:@cerb - i know you think you're clever and all, and bravo to you, but it doesn't answer my question.
i'll attach a question of my own:
- why care that I asked vecna that at all?
In post 730, Cerberus v666 wrote:as far as i am concerned there are now 4 cultists in the game andwe should now be heavily hovering over people's interactions, or maybe more importantly,definitely in support of making this cycle a bit longer to weed that out.change, in interactions.
And...I *know* I'm clever.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Though to be fair, with things still being in pause, it's possible that there's no functional difference between yesterday and today, so there's nothing to be gained from that line of inquiry. The fake play, followed by another pause, hurts the justification for my inquiry. *shrug*
Pedit: nope, no elaboration shall be forthcoming.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Yes, and my note that the potential for any change in the status between vecna and yourself has been reduced came up after the pause happens. Being in pause still means there are things unresolved, most likely. That means those things could change the situation when play begins again. In essence, had you expressed that interest in vecna thoughts before the pause phase ended, I would not have batted an eye. Since the game state has been changed so that fact is true, your interaction with him is of less significance than had it actually occurred after the next play phase began.In post 743, Venmar wrote:you do know i asked the question and you critiqued it BEFORE dream paused the game
Pedit: <3 do what you need to Gamma, feel better.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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@lithrasil: Multiple players answered your question within a couple pages of you asking it. I suggest you pay more attention to the game thread before forming opinions about those who are willing to answer questions and those who ignore you.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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You should stop doing this. If you're going to make a game where time stamps matter, you need to have a set time when you'll accept the submission of actions, known long in advance, rather than just having action submission become allowable whenever you show up.
If I told you all that I could guarantee someone wouldn't be able to be recruited during a phase, would you vote for them in order to extend their immunity and make it permanent?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Why did you refuse to be immunized then? :-/In post 856, Chickadee wrote:I can also do something similar, going forward.
Are you still refusing to be immunized?
Would you do this thing to me in the next 3 minutes?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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A50....how would we know whether or not the immunization on you failed?In post 858, Almost50 wrote:
mate, once immunized they canNOT recruit the player EVER. That is, I am now UNrecruitable. I'm stuck by the Neutrals side.In post 853, Srceenplay wrote:So what is the point to immunize then?
If they target someone within the first minutes of play then immunity can’t save them?
Or does it work the other way.
We have to guess who the targeted to block the action with immunity?
Had I been targeted BEFORE I was hammered, I would have been recruited instead, and immunization on me would have failed. Since that didn't happen, then I'm now 100% Neutral for the rest of the game, but 2 others got culted, andCERB WAS ONE OF THEM.
So, we now likely have 11 recruitable slots (24-(2 CLs+2 recruits+6 TPRs at the start of the game+Dunker & Creature+me))GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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You've seen me as scum. I'm not so straightforward, you know that. Stop using silly arguments that you know aren't true. Did you receive a message from the moderator informing you that you had been made immune? I want to know where your belief that you were immunized came from. Is it simply the vote, or did you receive independent confirmation?In post 863, Almost50 wrote:
You shading me is enough evidence.In post 860, Cerberus v666 wrote:
A50....how would we know whether or not the immunization on you failed?In post 858, Almost50 wrote:
mate, once immunized they canNOT recruit the player EVER. That is, I am now UNrecruitable. I'm stuck by the Neutrals side.In post 853, Srceenplay wrote:So what is the point to immunize then?
If they target someone within the first minutes of play then immunity can’t save them?
Or does it work the other way.
We have to guess who the targeted to block the action with immunity?
Had I been targeted BEFORE I was hammered, I would have been recruited instead, and immunization on me would have failed. Since that didn't happen, then I'm now 100% Neutral for the rest of the game, but 2 others got culted, andCERB WAS ONE OF THEM.
So, we now likely have 11 recruitable slots (24-(2 CLs+2 recruits+6 TPRs at the start of the game+Dunker & Creature+me))GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Interesting. What about my other questions?In post 866, Chickadee wrote:
You might not like it.In post 859, Cerberus v666 wrote:
Why did you refuse to be immunized then? :-/In post 856, Chickadee wrote:I can also do something similar, going forward.
Are you still refusing to be immunized?
Would you do this thing to me in the next 3 minutes?GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Meh, this is all dumb, and I'm not going to invest any more effort into what I've been clearly trying to do.
No, A50, I wasn't recruited. I'm a fucking jailkeeper, and I was planning on jailkeeping someone as soon as the day started so that way I could get us to all vote for that person(the person I jailkept yesterday was chickadee, because I wanted her to be guaranteed to not be recruited(unless they recruited her earlier in the day)); that is why it's bullshit that drealmerz is just arbitrarily starting the day phase.
I'm sharing this because I'm fucking over trying to be coy and guide the "town" without getting myself recruited, so, fuck it. Recruit me cults, if it's possible to do so(idk if it is), and your chances of winning increase pretty majorly because I can both deny the other cult from recruits, and also keep threats to you from acting.
Chickadee, if your thing can keep me from being recruited, you should probably do it if you see this post within a few minutes after I made it, unless you trust that i can't be recruited because I'm not one of those things that are explicitly outlined as being recruitable.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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I wanted to use my jailkeep on jay btw, thus what I said earlier about being 99% certain Jay was not able to be culted, but then all the crap with the pause still going on happened, and fucked up that entire plan by making my action not count.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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