Rocky Horror Picture Show - players suck, game over

[Varsoon]

So what, though?
There's no way for us to

know

if cults are screwed or not, so let's continue to blindly fumble until the game is over.

[Almost50]

you've taught me that you should definitely do that until there is hard evidence to suggest otherwise.

Nope! I only taught you not to lynch a claimed PR on D1. That's all.

[mutantdevle]

Porkens had 10 votes, not that immunising him would have done anything.

So we ran out of time, I guess we have to take the fast voting option.

[mutantdevle]

you've taught me that you should definitely do that until there is hard evidence to suggest otherwise.

Nope! I only taught you not to lynch a claimed PR on D1. That's all.

Too bad it's permanently N1 this game :3

[Cerberus v666]

Oh hey, look, we just wasted an immunization, assuming that announcement is accurate...and this time the day ended just a few hours later..and last time things went on for like 2 days. So, absolutely no idea what triggers the end of the day.

[Almost50]

I find Jay's claim especially believable since I really don't think she'd be making it up. She has made us aware that she'll be 'investigating' 3 people per day and if she ever gives us a false result then we could easily find out, or rather, if she is a lying cult player, the other cult could easily find out through their recruitments.

How are you going to find out? Jay only said his ability paralyzes their target(s) (i.e. he's a roleblocker). He added that his trigger goes off if he targtes a CL.

Furthermore, let's say the cult does find out he's lying. What next? Come out and shout: "Jay is lying because we are cult and we found him out"??

[Cerberus v666]

1st 2:45 a.m. game start
2nd 10:37 a.m. announcement
4th 11:49 A.M. phase end/13 votes placed
5th 7:50 a.m. real start to next phase,after fake start
7th 7:50 a.m. announcement
7th 10:59 a.m. phase end, without having reached 13 votes.

Does anyone see a pattern there? 48 hours after this phase started there was an announcement, while last time the announcement happened 32 hours after the phase started. Last time, there was just over 48 hours between the announcement nad phase end, which was triggered by votes, indicating that it could have gone on longer in theory, and this time there were 3 hours.

[Almost50]

Did you receive a PM saying you were immune after you were hammered?

NO. I received no confirmation. I also received no recruitment PM so I wasn't targeted to be recruited in the first place. And I've asked if I could still be recruited after having been immunized and the answer was once immunized I could never be recruited anymore.

[Cerberus v666]

Did you receive a PM saying you were immune after you were hammered?

NO. I received no confirmation. I also received no recruitment PM so I wasn't targeted to be recruited in the first place. And I've asked if I could still be recruited after having been immunized and the answer was once immunized I could never be recruited anymore.

So, if that announcement is accurate and only one person was recruited, either someone who is naturally immune was targeted, chickadee is the cult leader or was targeted, and that's all we can tell.

This is assuming everyone is telling the truth about their roles and actions.

[Almost50]

we are now in PAUSE

(resolving actions)

Thanks everybody for being too damn lazy to even attempt to immunize someone before the Play phase was over.

[SnarkySnowman]

It seems there is no clear time limit / deadline for day/night? Pretty random?

[JaydragonKing]

Maybe an ability to end the phase early?

[Inferno390]

we are now in PAUSE

(resolving actions)

What?
What caused pause phase?

There are so many things that we can assume right now, but I think that the one we need to avoid is:
JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT VIRGINS DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN"T BE RECRUITED. Because if that's not true, Cult is basically screwed right now.

Well, in that case, CL is screwed because even if they hit every recruit from here on out, there are not enough virgins left to catchup with immunized unless one cult straight up dies.
Because I just realized: "groupie=cult?"

WHY ARE YOU SAYING THE CULTS ARE SCREWED AS THOUGH IT'S A BAD THING YOU SCUMMY FUCK?

Was that too harsh?

HOw id diI say it was a bad thing? I just don't think a game could be that townsided and get throgh reviews.

[Almost50]

Did you receive a PM saying you were immune after you were hammered?

NO. I received no confirmation. I also received no recruitment PM so I wasn't targeted to be recruited in the first place. And I've asked if I could still be recruited after having been immunized and the answer was once immunized I could never be recruited anymore.

So, if that announcement is accurate and only one person was recruited, either someone who is naturally immune was targeted, chickadee is the cult leader or was targeted, and that's all we can tell.

This is assuming everyone is telling the truth about their roles and actions.

Towniest thing you've posted all game. I can't explain why, but this one post is the only one that ave me town!vibes from you, Cerb.

Maybe you should try to post more like this and less about the mechanical stuff??

[mutantdevle]

I find Jay's claim especially believable since I really don't think she'd be making it up. She has made us aware that she'll be 'investigating' 3 people per day and if she ever gives us a false result then we could easily find out, or rather, if she is a lying cult player, the other cult could easily find out through their recruitments.

How are you going to find out? Jay only said his ability paralyzes their target(s) (i.e. he's a roleblocker). He added that his trigger goes off if he targtes a CL.

Furthermore, let's say the cult does find out he's lying. What next? Come out and shout: "Jay is lying because we are cult and we found him out"??

I specifically am unlikely to have any way of knowing. However, if she targets 3 people and claims that none of them was role blocked, but one of them was a PR, then they could expose her. Chickadee could also expose Jay if her kill still goes through. The other cult to (hypothetically) Jay could also find out she is lying if she claims to have blocked them but they weren't blocked and then the Cult Leader would just simply tell their cultists about Jay's lies and come up with a way to get multiple scum reads on her. It would be risky, but all it takes is one well-reasoned argument and any townie could jump on.

But here's the thing, we know Chickadee is a vig, Jay claims to have blocked Chickadee. If Jay is lying then Chickadee could simply tell us that. Vecna also claimed to have a PR so too can confirm if Jay was lying. In 1091 you also said Porken claimed to have a PR, I don't remember that but if he did then Jay has targetted 3 PRs. All should be blocked and should be able to confirm that. The point is that Jay's role is in a very confirmable position and we are about to either find out that all 4 people are confirmed PRs (assuming Porkens did claim a PR which I'm about to Iso to find) or at least 1 of the 4 is lying.

[mutantdevle]

Porkens claimed a PR.

Where?

[Cerberus v666]

Did you receive a PM saying you were immune after you were hammered?

NO. I received no confirmation. I also received no recruitment PM so I wasn't targeted to be recruited in the first place. And I've asked if I could still be recruited after having been immunized and the answer was once immunized I could never be recruited anymore.

So, if that announcement is accurate and only one person was recruited, either someone who is naturally immune was targeted, chickadee is the cult leader or was targeted, and that's all we can tell.

This is assuming everyone is telling the truth about their roles and actions.

Towniest thing you've posted all game. I can't explain why, but this one post is the only one that ave me town!vibes from you, Cerb.

Maybe you should try to post more like this and less about the mechanical stuff??

That IS a mechanical post.

And...I don't ever TRY to be townie. I might try to be scummy, but never townie. Any overt attempts at towniness in the past were likely orchestrated by Drixx while we were hydraing, and he was probably the one who made the post.

[Almost50]

Porkens claimed a PR.

Where?

I dunno. I had her down as a PR in my notes though.

[mutantdevle]

Welp, if Porkens ever flips as a recruited PR then we know who their cult leader is :3

[drealmerz7]

note:

all actions from Play 2 have been resolved

[Cerberus v666]

Why are we still paused then? :-/

[Cerberus v666]

Please stop artificially extending the length of this game by making us waste time talking during a useless phase, when there's nothing to actually talk about because(as Varsoon has been saying) nobody has any agency.

[Almost50]

Welp, if Porkens ever

flips

as a recruited PR then we know who their cult leader is :3

If we had any FLIPS we wouldn't be in this mess we're in, now would we?

[Cerberus v666]

Welp, if Porkens ever

flips

as a recruited PR then we know who their cult leader is :3

If we had any FLIPS we wouldn't be in this mess we're in, now would we?

Only 3 out of 24 flips are of any value to us. Other ones might just confirm peoples claimed PR's, which is pretty much worthless.

[mutantdevle]

Yeah, I was kinda hoping that Chickadee being a vig would mean that there were more killing roles. If all actions have been resolved, then obviously not :/