Micro 898 | Forest Fire | Over

[PenguinPower]

I think we should lynch RC, if he flips town, we should hard sheep him.

I just finished a game with RC where scum wanted him dead. Policy lynching good scum players will just result in scum gamethrowing, so a really terrible idea, always.

Spoiler: Hid animated Gif --P

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Dann

deepwolf...yadda yadda.

[PenguinPower]

Policy lynching good scum players will just result in scum gamethrowing

VOTE: Dann

deepwolf...yadda yadda.

Spoiler: Hid animated Gif --P

[PenguinPower]

dammit...why you have to interrupt me?

[PenguinPower]

fair

[PenguinPower]

I think that would irritate me...good thing I'm not in danger of that pretty much ever

[PenguinPower]

if you make another post about policy lynching me i'm going to policy lynch you

I will join.

[PenguinPower]

nice...

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: BS

[PenguinPower]

Sorry, Plot. Will endeavor to do better...it's so hard though.

[PenguinPower]

You need to learn to read the room.

[PenguinPower]

Probably should move on.

p-edit

@pyrrha

[PenguinPower]

Some penguins live in non arctic regions, but they do still live in very southern longitudes
#facts

Yeah...jackass penguins.

[PenguinPower]

Also, if someone is about to argue that I'm the BS scum buddy in this situation trying to push an alternative. I would counter that by saying the BS vs. RC situation never happens if I'm BS' scum partner and just leave it at that.

Let's not leave it at that since you brought it up. It happened over the course of 2ish hours - read: quickly. Very likely that you weren't even present before or during the interaction.

[PenguinPower]

You don't have gamma slot above null.

[PenguinPower]

I mean you didn't talk about why you found anyone else above null - and it's pretty easy to pick up on - so, no I don't really feel like it.

I find it laughable that you and pyrrha have such strong reads right now. Two slots haven't even generated any content and one is just creating noise.

[PenguinPower]

Dammit plot. I want to gif.

[PenguinPower]

what are your thoughts on my v reads rn

Spoiler: My thoughts

bs is twtbw

dann's content is well thought out and some of his content is honestly just.. like too good to be fake

Um...have you met Dann?

[PenguinPower]

I have never been lynched with this account. If you don't count that self lynch in viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81029

I would count a self lynch as town as the equivalent of multiple mislynches.

[PenguinPower]

But uh, I'm not.

Spoiler:

[PenguinPower]

If PP’s noise comment was in reference to me

It wasn't.

[PenguinPower]

As scum he tends to be mostly useless.

I like to think this only applies to Larges but...eh.

[PenguinPower]

Oh cool...I got the pagetop.

[PenguinPower]

I townread you, Dann.

[PenguinPower]

Oof - alt using meta.

Need Pine to post so I can take him out of my pool. Need eth0s to do what he promised to do. Need Dann to be town and not a deepwolf (endgame matter). Need sheep to use real words.

[PenguinPower]

Could you just tell me what twtbaw means?

[PenguinPower]

Could you just tell me what twtbaw means?

Too wolfy to be a wolf

I don't agree with this as an accurate read outside the Newbie queue (and even then, in limited circumstances).

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Pine

Do something.

Do you think voting a slot that is already not doing something encourages them to do something?

[PenguinPower]

Nice...a response straight from my playbook.

[PenguinPower]

Now, follow it up with an appropriate gif.

[PenguinPower]

The only one I have?

For the record, I would have gone with:

Spoiler:

[PenguinPower]

Thanks for the setup.

[PenguinPower]

I'm confused. You use the same playbook as town and scum?

Why would you keep separate playbooks? Break it into chapters and index it. Geez...efficiency first.

Are you leaving us?

?

[PenguinPower]

Thanks for the setup.

I thought this was a goodbye post

Thanks for the setup for the pagetop.

I'm confused. You use the same playbook as town and scum?

Why would you keep separate playbooks? Break it into chapters and index it. Geez...efficiency first.

but what if I'm scum and I accidentally turn to the "town" section? Then I would accidentally obvtown myself!

Spoiler:

[PenguinPower]

He's townreading Dann and possibly scumreading eth0s. That's all I was able to get.

[PenguinPower]

even 200 posts in he's still advocating for RVS votes. Why do you want people to vote so bad? idk seems kinda scummy to me. Usually town wants to hold off lynching someone until close to the deadline.

Is he advocating for RVS votes though? People placing votes and seeing how the wagons develop is useful when looking back. I don't see how encouraging it is scummy.

[PenguinPower]

Otherwise I'm having trouble forming town reads and I'm attributing that to a lack of people trying to do anything. Like looking at the VC we have 5 people not voting which makes for a really stagnant game state. I suppose I should just be patient for the weekend to end and people to be more active. The lack of RVS votes is just odd.

That doesn't really answer my question. It was a comment about the lack of votes, and wanting people to start voting (assumedly with reasons).

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler: Hid gif --P

[PenguinPower]

Ah...dammit. Forgot the spoiler.

[PenguinPower]

It's an attempt to get people to firm up what they are actually saying and create information for later review. Like - what happens when BS gets put to L-1? Does it fall apart? If it falls apart, who becomes the next wagon? Who moves where? This is good information.

You keep repeating it's an attempt to accelerate a lynch and that's just not factually true.

[PenguinPower]

Nah. I played with him in a game earlier this year. I recall being frustrated with him and he repped out, but his slot was town.

[PenguinPower]

Speaking of, we getting a rainbow reads list after Pine posts, Penguin?

You can be my new Vedith:

Spoiler:

{Dannflor}

{Psyche}

{Gamma Emerald, Pyrrha Nikos}

{Plotinus, Vedith}

{ }

{Banakai, Sheep}

{eth0s}

{Blatant Scum}

[PenguinPower]

HOW does Dannflor resemble Vedith

I only do rainbow reads upon Vedith's request or to break out of RVS or if the mood inspires me too.

[PenguinPower]

Aw...I like Vedith.

[PenguinPower]

why am I red

Because of posts like this:

Penguin, I am very confused on what your read on Dann is supposed to be.

I asked this before I got to the readlist.

Spoiler:

I townread you, Dann.

[PenguinPower]

You think I would pay less attention to the game if I were scum?

I think that's a bad argument for why you are not scum.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: eth0s

if we aren't doing BS.

[PenguinPower]

Your entire ISO is devoid of actually doing anything but trying to seem busy...Asking questions when the answers are readily available, saying something is important but not really pressing it or doing anything with it (299), voting Psyche but not engaging with him at all, not really pushing anyone really...even your catchup was a regurgitation of the game state and not really your stances. What are they by the way? You said you would be willing to lynch 3 players but didn't actually take the time to say who they were.

And, sorry - why are you voting Psyche again? And, I swear to god, if you say opportunistic in your answer I am going to GIFslap you so hard.

[PenguinPower]

Dann...help me...I efforted.

[PenguinPower]

Umm...

[PenguinPower]

It’s cool. I knew too.

[PenguinPower]

I didn't vote psyche, I voted Pine. Because he was being opportunistic

You mean the guy that Psyche replaced and you were still voting as of the top of the last page?

Spoiler:

1: Citation needed.

You mean like when you said you didn't get my stance on Dann and I pointed it out to you like two pages ago?

Spoiler:

2: are you really suggesting that I had no purpose with that?

You mean like do I mean what I actually said when I said it a couple pages ago?

Spoiler:

3: I really thought the reason I voted pine was pretty self-explanatory

You mean because of an opportunistic RVS vote from a slot that disappeared immediately after and you didn't bother to sort once it got replaced?

Spoiler:

4: what are yours? I remember a readlist with no explanation and some side commentary but.. that's about it

You mean you remember when I took a stance on every player in this game and posted it for everyone to see and yet you still deflect and won't provide your stances even on the three players that you said you were willing to lynch?

Spoiler:

[PenguinPower]

Pyrrha flipped out really hard when I voted her. Like that reaction is a yikes

She didn't though...?

I mean - your reaction over the past several posts you've made have been pretty yikes.

[PenguinPower]

You're not that easy though...people are talking about voting you but are not. And - I mean - you completely left out what I said about your play which is accurate.

How hard is it to give us the three people you wanted lynched originally; who you scum read now; and, what has changed your mind between the two? Instead of flailing at Pyrrha, how about you do that?

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

It's like penguin is going out of his way to do nothing AI

Spoiler:

[PenguinPower]

I'll be around tomorrow to remind everyone how badly people handled my slot while I was alive.

If you actually are a tree you should probably take ownership for playing in a way that led to people believing your were scum. You waited until you got a lot of pressure before you started outing any reads and your only non-RVS vote is an omgus vote and a sudden strong scum-read on the person that started your wagon. You refused to provide an answer until quite a bit of prodding on your three people you were willing to lynch, and as I've said before you were just trying to seem busy without doing anything, and now your reads line up almost exactly with the people pushing you.

Atm I think it's just ate though.

[PenguinPower]

everything I have said is consisten. I haven't changed stances at all besides being okay with lynching you now over BS. My reads don't line up with anyone else's so that's just a blatant lie. And what have you done this game besides look busy?

Um...I didn't say any of what you are responding to? And now your attack on be is a regurgitation of what I've said about you?

Solid play my guy.

[PenguinPower]

The whole "how long it took me to out reads" or whatever is baloney too. BS has had a free pass on that all game and his wagon dissolved.

It's not though. Dann and I asked you a couple of times before you finally answered whilst under pressure.

[PenguinPower]

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

everything I have said is consisten. I haven't changed stances at all besides being okay with lynching you now over BS. My reads don't line up with anyone else's so that's just a blatant lie. And what have you done this game besides look busy?

Um...I didn't say any of what you are responding to?

you need coffee or something then

Or you do? For example, you respond "My reads don't line up with anyone else's so that's just a blatant lie" when I said that your outed reads line up on the people pushing you - read: you are scumreading those who are pushing you.

[PenguinPower]

Yes.

you know you're encouraging a lolhammer and that's just stupid

I answered a question from my viewpoint. What do you want me to say?

[PenguinPower]

I'd like to see your sample size.

[PenguinPower]

Tomorrow?

[PenguinPower]

now that eth0s is so close to lynch he's changed his tune completely, v strange *insert thinking emoji*

Why is it strange? Would your behavior not change if you were about to get lynched?

[PenguinPower]

(sorry, plot...at least it wasn't a face)

[PenguinPower]

Not the answer I expected/wanted, but in line with it. I'm moving you up.

[PenguinPower]

I blame Dann. It’s all his fault.

[PenguinPower]

Still your fault.

[PenguinPower]

And my hard pushing definitely had nothing to do with it...

[PenguinPower]

Can we move on from that...it's like it doesn't matter what Gamma does, you're judging him based on a replace out and that's just bad imo.

[PenguinPower]

Ok...just stop it with the RC argument then.

[PenguinPower]

Why Penguin has him as his #2 tr, totally baffles me.

The more annoyed I am by him the higher his town read based on my n=1 game with him. He's dropped to yellow since I posted my read list.

[PenguinPower]

it smells like updog out here

Spoiler: Hid Animated Gif --P

[PenguinPower]

It's like Dann knows exactly what I am going to ask (not really the sheep thing, but definitely the me thing).

[PenguinPower]

Oi! - let him answer.

[PenguinPower]

missed the page top

sads

[PenguinPower]

I was wrong on eth0s as well. Throwing that out there.

[PenguinPower]

Was Banakai not using that a reason to scumread Pyrrah? I admit I'm doing a lot right now and should probably read again in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

he’s voting Psyche

He is

[PenguinPower]

Oh my god...I read that as not voting. Good night.

Back in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

I'm still here - weekend was busy. Catching up this morning.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: sheep

[PenguinPower]

Pine! Get out of the background!

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

I also disagree that I've been in the background (maybe today, but not yesterday) the whole game, but I wanted to point that out more.

[PenguinPower]

My feelings are starting to get hurt...

I'm background and no one...

[PenguinPower]

*jumps down Gamma's throat*

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler:

https://media.giphy.com/media/bhoQxlYXkLzeE/giphy.gif

[PenguinPower]

blahhhhhhh

I wish more people were playing

I've had a pretty shit past two days...I'll effort tomorrow. Unless you want memes...I can do memes right now.

[PenguinPower]

I've had a pretty shit past two days...I'll effort tomorrow. Unless you want memes...I can do memes right now.

Sorry. I fell asleep.

[PenguinPower]

I wish stumps couldn't talk.

I'm fine with sheep today. I won't necessarily sheep dann if it flips red though. Psyche slot is underwhelming.

[PenguinPower]

I wish stumps couldn't talk.

Huh?

Pretty self-explanatory.

[PenguinPower]

It's an immediate problem, not one I anticipated.

[PenguinPower]

I'm excited about lynching sheep.

[PenguinPower]

Pyrrha I still think you're quite townie but please make me understand why penguin is never scum here... I am worried at how little he comes up in discussion

If I was scum, I would have driven the bus on sheep.

[PenguinPower]

Besides, I’m town for my other wonderful personality traits that have shown this game

Stop being mad because I was wrong on you.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not mad, you slot is literally being overlooked by everyone constantly and I'm wondering what they know that I don't

Besides, I’m town for my other wonderful personality traits that have shown this game

[PenguinPower]

BS/Banakai

Don't care what order.

[PenguinPower]

Scum!Penguin tries to coast. He never takes hard stances on anything. Excalibur would be a great example of Penguin scum, where as Last Night Tomorrow is typical Penguin town.

tbf, that's Largescum!Penguin.

Microscum!Penguin hardbusses and is serious.

I know, I know...selfmeta. HORROR.

[PenguinPower]

Pyrrha...

Prime a target for ignition by dousing them with gasoline.

[PenguinPower]

Lemme know when to vote Banakai

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Banakai

[PenguinPower]

Time to play with the vote counter.
VOTE: eth0s

idk how that thing works

You have to stop the string prior to the &start.

[PenguinPower]

/inb4 BS lolhammers Banakai.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I'm not opposed. I just wanted to call it out for props later

[PenguinPower]

Don't you prod me, duck.

[PenguinPower]

I just read that running these votecounts puts mafiascum.new under heavy load.
Hups.

Nothing close to what the Chinese spammers can do.

[PenguinPower]

I think we should focus on the game at hand.

[PenguinPower]

I want to make the duck do work though.

[PenguinPower]

I feel that self voting is against wincon when you are town or the only scum left.

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

Dunno. I have to think about it. It’s why I invited.

[PenguinPower]

anyone wanna read my penguino case or comment or something i put so much work into it

bc i seriously have no idea how penguin is townread and i really want to know

It's a bad case built around a prior assumption and looking for rationale versus the other way around.

Penguin, what's your read on the january/Psyche slot?

I'd probably lynch it after BS but before Banakai. The ate worked.

My opinion on her case on me is above.

[PenguinPower]

Penguin, when/why did you start being happy to sheep me on sheep?

Don't remember when exactly As for the why, all I can say is meta.

[PenguinPower]

Meta with sheep?

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

Also, can you expand on your BS scum read?

Not really. I think his play is fairly apparent, and he's not someone I would like to take to mylo/lylo.

[PenguinPower]

Her predecessor(s). I also don't think she's obvtown.

[PenguinPower]

idgi

[PenguinPower]

I don't get that takeway from the posts, and I definitely wouldn't obvtown someone over it.

[PenguinPower]

I disagree with you there...quite a bit.

[PenguinPower]

I disagree with you there...quite a bit.

Ok, elaborate then?

I already did. I think her "case" on me is predicated on her "read" on me and not the other way around.

[PenguinPower]

Damn. I’ve been caught. Yes, I routinely lynch my partners without attempting to get town credit for the lynch.

Good catch.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: january

[PenguinPower]

Perhaps you missed the part where she agreed about trying to find support for a predetermined read and for some reason thinking that Bs and Banakai were bastions of town compared to me.

Don’t buy it.

[PenguinPower]

She assumed I was scum and then read my posts with the intention of finding supporting evidence...admittedly.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah - but why wouldn't we treat it as a worst-case scenario and be pleasantly surprised later?

[PenguinPower]

Damn. I’ve been caught. Yes, I routinely lynch my partners without attempting to get town credit for the lynch.

Good catch.

[PenguinPower]

If I was scum, I would have driven the bus on sheep.

and afaik nobody has any other reason to townread him besides the vote

Well...that's not true.

Spoiler: Hid animated gif --P

[PenguinPower]

aren’t you trying to get towncredit right now lol

Wow - out of context. I'm disputing your rationale.

[PenguinPower]

I'm gonna get really snarky in a minute so I'm going to peace out.

[PenguinPower]

I disagree with you there...quite a bit.

Ok, elaborate then?

I already did. I think her "case" on me is predicated on her "read" on me and not the other way around.

Idk about this
You might have a point but I also feel like she makes a decent point about pushing your reads
Of course that can be for multiple reasons, not all being related to being scum

I mean, the post you quoted is objectively fact at this point.

penguin - i realize that the case seems biased towards already reading you as scum - that was actually my purpose

[PenguinPower]

You might have a point but I also feel like she makes a decent point about pushing your reads

I pushed my read pretty hard on eth0s D1. I wonder why I stepped back D2...

[PenguinPower]

pagetop++

[PenguinPower]

no you really just ignored the rest of that post lol

the case was to CHALLENGE the weird townread on you. when i started the case i was only wary of you

and then when i made the case it convinced me that you were maf

but keep taking things out of context lol

Sorry - I''ll try to read English in a way not intended by grammatical and contextual rules. That should have been my goto. Apologies.

[PenguinPower]

the case was to CHALLENGE the weird townread on you

She actually stated this before posting the case.

Absent the fact that I don't see where she stated that was her intent prior to the case, it doesn't change that she admittedly approached reading me with a predetermined read. It tries to explain why she approached with a predetermined read, sure.

[PenguinPower]

Also, bad misquote.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I could argue semantics if I wanted to be pedantic, but I understand your intent, so, yeah, it’s clearer now. Thanks.

[PenguinPower]

I couldn’t have been bussing there.

[PenguinPower]

i don't think scum normally hard-pushes their partner.

You should see my micro scum games.

[PenguinPower]

Nah, maggots are still used today.

[PenguinPower]

I will acknowledge that his meta argument about scum!him hardbussing sheep is weak

It's not though if you click my wiki button.

[PenguinPower]

I want to see what Dann says when he feels better, but I don't disagree that Banakai isn't contributing much.

[PenguinPower]

Yes, yes, that's where I was going with that, but I'd like to see Dann's case to see if I'm being overly reactionary or not.

[PenguinPower]

Seems that's the consensus for today - though Dann's post on jan didn't do much to convince me that my current read is wrong.

[PenguinPower]

In combination with your prior comments on my case and on january, that's probably the first thing you've said this game that I don't like.

[PenguinPower]

I think I just need to go with my gut

Yes pls

[PenguinPower]

It was pretty apparent sarcasm. I enjoyed it.

[PenguinPower]

If you’re wrong on me (hint: you are) and you think Banakai is town, then who is scum?

[PenguinPower]

np

[PenguinPower]

I think a lot of it is meta based and you haven't played with me before so you don't know.

I'm a little less confident you are scum right now, but like you, my lynch pool is you > BS.

[PenguinPower]

but i still dunno what exactly you've done to make yourself so supertown that i get scumread for pushing on you

if i am lynched i will force you all to answer this question tomorrow

so if you don't want to/don't know how to answer this question then you should not lynch me

just kidding

mostly

Already answered...

[PenguinPower]

Didn't you find him an unlikely partner for sheep?

[PenguinPower]

sheep keeps BS right below or in his towncore from the beginning along with you and Nancy.

I'm town, Gamma is town, eth0s is town and we were in his lynchpool along with Banakai and Psyche/Jan.

My town read on Nancy is pretty strong. My town read on you is fairly strong. So, sheep was trying to build a towncore that would have resulted in a 5p win.

BS' mentions of sheep:

Spoiler: Amazing, lengthy, plethora of posts talking about sheep!

genuinely believes that everything he's been doing is protown

I will probably sheep Dennflor this game.

@Dannflor
Tell me how scum!sheep makes sense defending me and I will become your sheep, sheeping you on Sheep.

intent to sheep Dannflor (and hammer sheep)

@Blatant Scum, what is your current read on Psyche or anyone other than sheep, Banaki, me, for that matter?

Who do you think is Banaki’s buddy?

I townread you and Dannflor

I think that Psyche's reaction on you calling Psyche/ Banakai scumteam makes their team very likely to be scum.

conftown: Blatant Scum eth0s
town: Dannflor Pyrrha Nikos
NAI: Gamma Emerald sheepsaysmeep PenguinPower
scum: Banakai Psyche

If at least one of {Banakai, Psyche} is town, it makes the other go to NAI

VOTE: Sheep

I could lynch BS today.

[PenguinPower]

Actually, now I prefer BS.

VOTE: BS

[PenguinPower]

anyone wanna read my penguino case or comment or something i put so much work into it

bc i seriously have no idea how penguin is townread and i really want to know

It's a bad case built around a prior assumption and looking for rationale versus the other way around.

Penguin, what's your read on the january/Psyche slot?

I'd probably lynch it after BS but before Banakai. The ate worked.

My opinion on her case on me is above.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t necessarily town read him but his ate knocked him down in the order (yes, even though it shouldn’t - it felt somewhat genuine).

[PenguinPower]

You mean - when sheep looks like the lynch for the day, BS jumps on the wagon...

Spoiler:

[PenguinPower]

I want january to be town so.....she is now.

BS > Banakai
Banakai > BS

Don't care which.

[PenguinPower]

No.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: BS

[PenguinPower]

That was a pressure L-1 but w/e

You said "Do it ASAP."

[PenguinPower]

Ah, ok.

[PenguinPower]

Banakai then?

[PenguinPower]

I'd actually like to hear from BS first though. No more promises to catch up.

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

I do mean today/tomorrow.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: BS

[PenguinPower]

That's fairly obvious given the votecount was ~5 posts back.

[PenguinPower]

No.
But VOTE: banakai is now the best vote.

Can we just lynch this please?

I mean - we have a self-voter and a guy who is trying so hard to do nothing at all, I don't really don't care which one first, but he said he was going to hack me so...let's do this one first.

[PenguinPower]

I don't think Gamma caught it

[PenguinPower]

So...vote?

[PenguinPower]

I'd say just do it because I'm impatient.

[PenguinPower]

Good job all. Sorry for the little spat, jan.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Yeah Plot, you're totally the worst for modding.

[PenguinPower]

Hm the dead thread thought I was a deep wolf

tbh, I thought you were too. Kept having to push the paranoia away.

Duck's right - title makes it worse.

[PenguinPower]

That's a pretty good strategy to get in deep with town. They'll never see it coming.