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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i am currently doing Very Important Things (*cough* watching youtube and making bad art) but i will read the game and have thoughts on the game within the next... two hours tops
anyone wanna try to sell me on a vote in the meantime is free to do soI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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wait, barely more than one day left, and y'all only got 6 pages in? this game needs CPRI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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16 pings townie, don't ask why because i don't know.
26 pings scummy in a way i cannot describe without looking like a madman. like, the presence of the word "lowkey" in this post makes it seem like umlaut is trying to give off a certain ~vibe~ in his posts, like he's almost afraid of someone thinking he has a strong read early. because townies just dish out takes. and townies generally don't have to specify "this is a weak read as it's page 2" because it's widely accepted that reads on page 2 are weak reads. scum has to fake reads, and they don't have that innate feeling of read strength, so they have to fake it, and in that faking they forgot that reads being "lowkey" on page 2 is a given and therefore unnecessary.
now, if you asked me "how sure are you that this makes umlaut scum", the answer is only like idk 3.6% more likely than rand. it's very much not a strong read. anyway.
i think 22 + 31 are townie for bugs? like, i think scum!bugs wouldn't make these posts that can very easily be accused of "shutting down discussion" and they're more likely to come from a town!bugs mindset who just spews whatever it is they think of
In post 27, Jacket wrote:It's a gut read. It's fine if you disagree. It will likely end up meaningless in the long term. But why should making a gut read you disagree with make me mafia?
mmm. cape didn't post inbetween these two posts. and i'm finding it kinda eyebrow-raising that jacket is allegedly leaning town on cape while at the same time questioning him in such a way? especially considering in 37 he says he's still sorting him. what's the townlean for, then? also, what is the silly reason to think looker is town?In post 34, Jacket wrote:Lean town on Cape. Also on Umlaut. Think Looker might be town for a silly reason. Think bugspray is scummy but that might just be my own pettiness speaking.
In post 41, Umlaut wrote:
You're saying 15 was an actual read and not just page 1 shitposting?In post 27, Jacket wrote:It's a gut read. It's fine if you disagree. It will likely end up meaningless in the long term. But why should making a gut read you disagree with make me mafia?uhh. i don't think "this intro feels the scummiest" is like, a very controversial gut read to have because you can definitely have impressions on just a few posts. and like, i'm pretty sure umlaut knows that. so the fact that he's making this vote after acting so taken-aback that jacket claimed he had a *gasp* gutread on page one is. yeah idk. smells a bit opportunistic.
okay, this is A Bit Better and makes me not want to murder umlaut immediately. for now.In post 46, Umlaut wrote:I think you've read everything aimed in your direction as unduly serious in a way that suggests a scummy hypersensitivity.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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this is what i was thinking of while i was reading vanders's posts so idk maybe jacket is town???
shiki is not giving me the same vibes she gave me last game so i am gonna say Provisionally Town but the jury is still out
my gut tells me shiki v dorsey is tvt
i dislike 87 and i like 89
1/3 at bestIn post 117, Jacket wrote:Vanderscamp/bugspray/LGW. Leaves room for one more in the POE. TBD.
why is umlaut town to you?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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if i HAD to make some reads right now
townies are jacket, shiki, bugspray, dorsey, in no specific order
scummy vibes on umlaut and vanders
no strong opinion on cape or looker
VOTE: umlaut
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at some point i also had a thought how it seems weird that jacket is townreading people that seem like they want him dead and how it lowkey feels like trying to get on their good side, but like... he also feels like a scum player who's not likely to be using that strat? at least my gut Impression says so and those are obviously never wrong
also, umlaut, you can always try to change my mind about the game!~I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i will say that me liking or disliking a post is only talking about what i think of the poster's alignment, not whether i agree with the postIn post 144, Cape90 wrote:is a towny move since it seemed like you were leaning towards scumreading meI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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what are you townreading him for, 17? i don't think scum would *need* to have an arbitrary reason to move their vote there, especially in the meme stage of the game. and like, umlaut is good enough at scum to think he can get away with a y-1 early i thinkIn post 148, Jacket wrote:Feeling was that he'd have more of a reason for an arbitrary wagon vote as scum.
i'm not 100% on bugs, if that's what you're asking. but i have decent experience with them, and i do think my ability to read them is above rand, so. will let you know if i sense and changes.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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wait, you said arbitrary wagon... point still stands, it's the meme portion of the game, wagoning for the sake of wagoning is a thing, i don't think it's town!indicative, etc.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that's fair. do you have any opinions on his posts past the early y-1?In post 155, Jacket wrote:I was working with what I had at the time.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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weren't people calling bugs scummy? and do you have an opinion on those players? (or like, anyone not named shiki)In post 171, Dorsey wrote:Only players I haven't seen really criticized are bugspray and Cape (other than Looker's hate crime)I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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VOTE: vanders
ok i can join thisI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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why did you unvote vanders then?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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this part personally rubs me the wrong wayIn post 178, Vanderscamp wrote:I think what shiki had to say around that period was probably the towniest anyone has been this game and I dislike that Dorsey didn't pick up on that.
it feels like a sorta stretchy reason for suspecting someone for not having a read they think they should have, and after (i think) no attempts to engage with dorsey about it
but yeah i don't have a whole lot more than ~vibes~ and i'm genuinely curious what jacket is thinking about right nowI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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bugspray's latest post is very underwhelming and i'd be lying if i said i townread it, but if i recall correctly, scum!bugs is generally more... tryhardy? or at least active, i remember them posting constantly in the first blitz. could be that they're busy or don't feel like playing or smt, which would be nai, but eh.
199 is giving me the same "umlaut is bs'ing" vibes as some of his previous posts and idk what to make of it. like, i wanted to think umlaut is townie because seeing me enter the game in a not-really-townread slot > drop a (to an outsider) nonsense townread on me > exit feels like a weird progression for scum!him, but idk if it outweighs my uneasiness of him otherwise.
also, still not scumreading dorsey. feel like there would be more... consistency? in their readslist as scum. idk, still getting loltown vibes.
what's the difference between these two reads / why did you vote cape but not me? i don't think it'd be accurate to say that cape is not active.In post 205, Jacket wrote:Don't townread Datisi on a read of him. Not going to vote day 1 because he's actually active, but eh.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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actually, the fact that bugs didn't acknowledge my presence in this game in any way is concerning...I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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16 hours, friends
VOTE: umlaut
i notice i'm alone on vanders so might as well vote the person i want to vote. we should start consolidating though, i don't *love* the bugs wagon but my standards will be getting lower
also i will not be around for the last 6-8 hours of the deadline due to having to do the bullshit activity called sleeping, so i'd be really grateful if we could get a move on before thenI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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@micc, you missed this
Fixed now. Thank you.
~MiccLast edited by Micc on Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:01 am, edited 1 time in total.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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out of the current two-person wagons, bugs is probably my preferred one, but i don't like itI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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looker isn't getting force replaced and you should post some actual contentI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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themIn post 252, Looker wrote:Is this just to get him to talk or are you going to eliminate him?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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also i'm putting bugs on y-1 if they have not produced quality content by the time i'm done with studying the current lessonI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i know this isn't technically a question for me, butIn post 267, shiki wrote:jacket, do you think town!datisi would think town!bugspray is going to "produce quality content" because threat of e-1 here?
town!bugs would've started screaming how i'm scum pushing a easy misyeet there
town!bugs was never afraid of confronting me, while scum!bugs pretty much always is
also, judging by those queue posts, incoming a replacement
i'm wondering if we should just hammer the slot and save micc the troubleI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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the point wasn't to get bugs to give game-related thoughts, the point was to see if bugs was gonna call me scum for itI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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here's the relevant posts from a recent mini normal where i caught scum!bugs on the same "avoiding seriously pushing me" tell
In post 177, Datisi wrote:ok fiiiiiine, i'll go into my issues with bugspray a bit more, this game ain't budging otherwise it seems.
bugs and i have played in a lot of games together, and i used to be very accurate at reading them, and very quickly. what i realized in my few recent games, town!bugspray is very quick to vote me in the beginning of the game, and is very quick to call my bullshit out if they sense it. on the other side, scum!bugspray... avoids me like the plague.
so my idea was to play in a purposefully weird/scummy way to see if they would call me out / vote me. and they didn't, they ignored me multiple times, to then say that they "always ignore scumreads on their slot" when prompted for like the third time. they didn't even use the opportunity to build a wagon on me when dwlee voted me and when they apparently started suspecting me
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time to burn a tell i guess >_>In post 213, Testarossa wrote:Do you have some games as examples at hand with both of you where they have been scum?
town bugspray:
micro 981 - votes me in post 106 because they thought my scumread of them was bullshit (i was town)
micro 988 - votes me in rvs in post 7, expresses a serious scumread on me in post 8 (i was scum)
micro 962 - votes me in rvs, revotes me and expressed a scumread on me in post 28 (i was in a scum hydra, but they scumread a post that i wrote)
micro 1017 - votes me in post 24, declares the vote as serious (i was scum)
scum bugspray:
micro 932 - ignores me at start of the game, i correctly scumread them on page 5, they said they don't think i'm scum in post 209
micro 951 - they did end up voting me in rvs, but my slot was already an rvs target because my hydra partner is a treasure, they ended up townreading me (post 310)
micro 960 - ignores me at start of the game, townreads me by post 253
now, i know what you're thinking. "but datisi, they always townread you as scum, and here they said they scumread you!!" ok cool, except this game there were other slots that thought i was scum. they also ignored me in the beginning, only declared the scumread once i pulled it out of them, and they still didn't feel like casing me or saying why i was scum or anything - very different to their scumread on me 981 where they said why i was scum ("i'm havign trouble scumreading their slot") and decided to push me on it (and pretty much every other time where they said why i was scum)I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i am slightly annoyed that there has been little to no reactions on my meta case but okI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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VOTE: enchant hiI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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bugs was kinda scummy
start townspewing or dieI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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do you think i'm scum?In post 302, shiki wrote:
this is somewhat compelling more words pleaseIn post 300, Enchant wrote:Also Datisi is mafia.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i would bet that enchant's claim was not supposed to be serious, or at most based on "datisi vote me " but i will let them clarifyI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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and what do you reckon my approach would be if i was interested in proving this?In post 310, Enchant wrote:you not interested in me proving i am townI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i wanted to vote the slot as soon as you unvoted because it was no longer a y-1, but i felt dumb voting an empty slotI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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this part kind of implies that i did not have a reason to vote them, which is very weird considering that the slot's alignment does not change upon replacement.In post 312, Cape90 wrote:haven't said a thingI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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VOTE: capeI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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"if you were interested in figuring out if i'm town, you'd have a different approach"
"what would that approach be, then?"
"idk"
this *very* much annoys me but it feels kind of? idk, nonchalant? not-giving-a-shit-y? i can let enchant live for now i guessI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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yeah, you're so obviously town, and your case on me is ironclad, i'm terrified lolI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i think 312 is showing a "here is a question that has an extremely obvious answer, where i am preparing to set up a scumread based on a thing that's surface-level scummy but that has a very simple explanation that i am conveniently going to ignore" mindset and i don't like itI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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like, no shit i voted you on entrance and before you said anything. that much can be plainly seen from the thread. so why is cape asking me a question that has an obvious answer? so that they can give off the illusion of sorting me via that question (despite it having a very obvious answer - "yes, yes i did do that"), and it's clearly setting up a "it's scummy to vote people before they get a chance to speak!!" scumread, while completely ignoring the fact that i already had a read on your slot which explains why i voted youI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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enchant was not an empty slot? in either sense of the word - the slot had a person playing in it, and the previous owner had posted enough content for me to get a read into. so.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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because i wasn't serious about voting out an unclaimed slot.In post 329, Enchant wrote:I also don't see why you suggest to "kill this slot and save time" and then fear it would be dumb to vote empty slot.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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it was partly a declaration that i genuinely scumread bugs, partly a reaction test to see if anyone's gonna agree with it.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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okay. in a vacuum, 341 is a Bad Case and i will respond to it properly in a few hours. however. i'm not sure i've ever seen a newbie drop a case on someone that's a viable push, then 5 minutes later... talk themselves out of it???
VOTE: umlaut
back to my pocket scumread weeeee
what if i was right earlier on and it's umlaut/vanders, wouldn't that be cool? also where is vanders
i think at this point i found some reason to townread everyone except umlaut/vanders/looker
also yeah, why is looker town? we could also push there
anyway yeah see ya in a few hoursI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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okay, time for me to quake in my boots.
first strike. do i believe my shallow case on you was some ironclad 100% guaranteed-or-money-returned scumcase? not really, no, and i never said it was. but it does not have to be that strong in order to be "worth voting you over". i've voted people for much less.In post 341, Cape90 wrote:I refuse to believe a player with 18460 posts and counting would actually believe their shallow case on me is really amazing and worth voting me over, I also refuse to believe the reason is genuine.
i genuinely have no clue what this is even attempting to say, but. no, in 328 i was not explaining my thought process from earlier, i was explaining why your "enchant was an empty slot!!" argument from 325 is nonsense.In post 341, Cape90 wrote:Like Datisi says 328 right? Like I criticized him for voting someone who hasn't gotten the chance to speak and they said this. So then were you just explaining your thought process from earlier? Because you said 318 which in itself is a weird post because through this post, I really don't know at all why you got off Enchant, and onto me for a post I made. To me, it just looks like you might be just spewing Jacket as town, totally fine by me honestly, most of everyone looks suspicious this game, like who isn't scummy like, there is shiki. I see an argument there could be made for Jacket and Umulant too.
as for 318. first, the accusation that "i can't see why you got onto me through this post" is... okay? yeah? because that's not the point of that post? i explained why i voted you in 323 and 324, why are you giving me shit for not explaining that in 318? as for "not seeing why i got off enchant", what do you think "nonchalant" and "not-giving-a-shit" means? those are characteristics that more often come from town than from scum, i saw those characteristics in enchat's intro. wow. amazing.
enchant was not an empty slot in 296, in both senses of the word. (1 = occupied slot, 2 = slot that has produced readable material.) 313 was saying that i was not willing to vote a slot that is unoccupied, because an unoccupied slot is unable to claim.In post 341, Cape90 wrote:Blah blah blah, anyway, so I guess Enchant was not an empty slot in 296 but you also said 313? Did you just admit you voted an empty slot? I mean, come on, it's essentially the same thing an empty slot, a person who hasn't spoken. But hold on, you said 314 didn't you? Which this raises many concerns of what you have been telling me Datisi.
and "empty slot" and "person who hasn't spoken" is NOT the same thing when replacements are in question. i had a read on bugs. it did not matter that enchant hadn't spoken yet, i had a read on the slot due to the stuff that bugs had posted.
incorrect, gauging other people's reads on my slot is one of my favourite way of reading people.
either say why the post makes me scum or don't include it in a scumcase.
do you think that the one and only way i am able to make reads is through meta? am i suddenly not allowed to have non-meta reads because i had one meta read in this game?In post 341, Cape90 wrote:280 so Datisi apparently has loads of meta on bugspray, that's cool, then they swap to me not knowing what my meta is like at all... okay then?
i don't know and i don't care. i'm not solving partnerships on day one unless there is a very good reason to do so.In post 341, Cape90 wrote:Speaking of the whole meta on bugspray thing, you notice that when you go back to the moment when Datisi suspected me for questioning him on revoting the bugspray slot. Now it is pretty clear that Datisi still holds this suspicion on bugs/enchant, however what I am wondering, hey Datisi, would the solve of the game then be just me and enchant, would it just be us both as mafia? Or do you think we are unpaired?
"preferred out of the three current wagons" =/= liking a wagon. just because it's better than the alternatives, doesn't mean it's actually any good. hello???In post 341, Cape90 wrote:You know what is strange though, I go back and look at 228 where Datisi says out of the 2 wagons at that time going on that he preferred bugspray but he expressed that he didn't like the wagon on bugspray? Excuse me hello? What?
yeah, because at the time, that singular post against bugspray wasn't enough to outweigh my other feelings on the slot. also, why should i have brought up the fact i voted umlaut again? how does the fact i didn't bring it up make me scum?In post 341, Cape90 wrote:Not like Datisi had no suspicion whatsoever on bugs as stated a bit in 220.
Datisi opts for going with Umlaut instead in 221 anyway and this isn't really brought up later on again by Datisi.
okay? do you have a reason to think those reasonings come from scum? do you have a reason to suspect my trajectory on bugs? no? you're just gonna throw vague shade and hope it sticks? okay.In post 341, Cape90 wrote:As far as meta reads that Datisi had on bugs goes, there was in 219 at the top"bugspray's latest post is very underwhelming and i'd be lying if i said i townread it,but if i recall correctly, scum!bugs is generally more... tryhardy? or at least active, i remember them posting constantly in the first blitz.could be that they're busy or don't feel like playing or smt, which would be nai, but eh."
Now ain't that just something.
Lemme just pull up some stuff in 135.
Oh dear it looks like Datisi found a couple of bugs posts towny.
i have... no clue what this is trying to accuse me of. rephrase and i'll respond.In post 341, Cape90 wrote:That's not exactly the interesting part, that actually comes in with the read on Jacket, where there is implied skepticism on Jacket in their post townleaning on me. And yet with Datisi's voting on me, there is little question of Datisi just going with Looker right onto me. (I say little because of 219).I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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if it were just [post]341[/post], i'd probably start deathtunneling cape over it, because it's been a while since i've seen that much nonsense and nai things thrown at me in a supposed-to-be scumcase in a long while. but, as i said, i really doubt a newbie makes a post like that, only to walk back on it 5 minutes later.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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this is not something you can ask.In post 360, Vanderscamp wrote:Were they doing things in other games?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Dorsey (2) -Vanderscamp, Umlaut
Cape90 (2) -Looker, Jacket
Enchant (1) -Dorsey
Jacket (1) -Enchant
Umlaut (1) -Datisi
Not Voting (2) -shiki, Cape90
whoever isn't voting, i would strongly recommend you vote, as we have less than 8 hours left, and no claims. out of the current top wagons, i'd vote dorsey but i am not thrilled about it. my preferences for votes is probably?? umlaut > looker = enchant > dorsey > vanders > jacket > cape > shikiI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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sigh
intent i guessI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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as i said, has been a whileI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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hammer is a bit weird, yeah
idk why scum!dorsey doesn't claim pr here so not sure they're flipping scum
i would like to be pleasantly surprised, thoughI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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did i miscount the votes or something? like i'm slightly paranoid there's no thread lock yetI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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VOTE: dorsey
sure, we have less than two hours anyway, probably not getting anything up in timeI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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...i might have been wrong. on like. a lot of things yesterday. x_xI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i still really don't like this post, but does it come from a buddy? does it, really??In post 199, Umlaut wrote:Actually
VOTE: Dorsey
Not impressed with their ISO, read on Shiki seems shallow and as Vanderscamp pointed out oddly rigid, and if I take 187 seriously I have to conclude they are not currently voting their top scumread. Particularly note their read on Vander: "I've only seen them protect Shiki and OMGUS me," followed by their read on Shiki: "I don't agree with everything the slot says, but I'm okay with believing for now that a slot wouldn't be so effusive if they didn't believe what they were saying." This former read looks like it's arguing for a Shiki-Vander team but the latter looks like they don't even believe that? This readlist does not show the sort of thought I expect from someone who actually means what they are saying.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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VOTE: looker
i'm townreading everyone on the wagon, or they got onto it at the time i'm not sure scum would. (enchant is in the other category i guess?)
cape vibes townie to me for the case, and i'm not scum, so let's start hereI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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i mean that i don't townread the content of your posts, but you do not look aligned with dorsey with the vote on them that you didIn post 406, Enchant wrote:
What you mean other categoryIn post 403, Datisi wrote:VOTE: looker
i'm townreading everyone on the wagon, or they got onto it at the time i'm not sure scum would. (enchant is in the other category i guess?)
cape vibes townie to me for the case, and i'm not scum, so let's start hereI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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1. i changed my mind with enchant's entrance, i didn't have anything on you to change my mind yet. and i don't always keep my vote on the person i have "the most dirt on".In post 404, Cape90 wrote:1. I guess the thing that gets me about your vote on me is it seemed like you had more dirt on the bugspray slot, more to go off of then myself.
2. Okay hold, if my case on Enchant being an empty slot was complete hogwash, then what does 313 mean exactly?
-About 318 I felt like it would have made more sense to explain your vote on me like after you voted me. And like, not have to get prodded to do so (322) that part just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to my chronological brain. Like you vote me and then just keep talking about Enchant.
3. okay, I think I see where your actions are coming from and your thought process. My concern lies in why you would be afraid of hammer dropping on the empty slot, does this sort of thing happen really that often?
4. I have seen more mafia tending to ask that question then town, you disagree with this belief?
5. Felt like a dumb question, 99% sure they explained it. Felt like an easy, no-depth question. Also, probably a town move anyway given the flip, but obviously that's on hindsight.
6. It seemed to be a lot less shallow then the case provided on me.
7. Meh, I don't like this line of thinking when there is likely 2 mafia since it is a 9 player game. There is your good reason to do so you're welcome.
8. Okay? I mean it really seemed like you had a VERY developed kinda meta read later on to the point of tunneling the slot. But you also said they said a couple of towny things earlier on which mind you, is not really brought up when we all get to the Enchant arc.
9. What were your feelings of the bugspray slot at the time?
-Just seemed like you conveniently forgot about Umulaut when the threadstate started not moving in that direction.
10. Contradicting your OWN meta on bugs is more weird then a scum motivation I guess. Your trajectory on bugs has been all over the place and as soon as I saw 333 where I guess there was a whole partly a reaction test thing, that only adds more confusion in the mix on the trajectory of the bugs slot, but in a way, it kinda makes sense from a town angle with 333 in mind.
11. in 341, I did mean to say jacket consistently and not looker at the bottom. But you know it was Jacket who originally got on me and after I said something, you didn't really think twice about Jacket's treatment of me which you previously questioned. And I was wondering why.
2. 313 means that i did not want to vote the slot while there was nobody playing in that slot. you were arguing that the slot was still empty after enchant replaced in, because they hadn't talked, which i disagree with. and, i think there is value in making a naked vote and seeing who decides to bite. or who tries to paint me as scummy for making a naked vote. it's essentially a mini reaction test in of itself. if i *have* to show examples where i do this as town, i will, but like. ugh.
3. i don't want a hammer on a slot that cannot claim because i'm paranoid we'll vote out a power role, that has happened a few times. also, i know specifically that looker has a habit of lolhammering sometimes, so...
4. i don't agree nor disagree with it, because i don't track who asks that question more. because i think it's a sensible question to ask.
5. the timing felt weird to me, as it came right after shiki agreed with me about bugs potentially being off this game. easy and no-depth question? sure. are those something that only scum asks, though?
6. okay.
7. let me rephrase that - hunting for partnerships with no flips is *extremely difficult*. it's more likely to result in the person going down nonsense rabbit holes than actually catching the scumteam. which is why i don't do it unless there is very compelling evidence that two people are partnered.
8. this isn't even responding to the original accusation. you gave me shit for calling a wagon bad after saying it was my preferred one. i gave an explanation why those two things aren't mutually exclusive, and your response is... that i had a more elaborate metacase on bugs than on you.
9. bugspray was scummy for the most part, but said a few posts that i thought are townie. enchant came in and started acting in a way that didn't feel too scummy. so i changed course. wow.
and yes? i was scumreading umlaut, but i'm not about to waste my time trying to convince everyone that he is scum when obviously nobody agrees with me.
10. i didn't contradict anything, bugs made some posts that fit their scum!meta and some posts that fit their town!meta.
11. again, i don't make partner cases on day 1. i am aware of the fact it's entire possible that i'm wrong on jacket and that he's right on you. especially as i was townreading him by that time. it's almost like you are looking for any time i worked with someone who i previously questioned and are trying to point it out as a ~contradiction~.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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that wasn't a hammerIn post 410, Looker wrote:I don't see scum!Datisi hammering down like thisI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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cape, who do you think is scum?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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oh yeah, another thought. dorsey flipped rolecop, so the odds that they were bussed is probably lower than usual?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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