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fun hating scum
tbh this is a good segue for something i was going to ask - if the resident hyperposters could keep posting to a reasonable volume for the less active people who don't play as much I think this game will be more enjoyable for everyone involved. Not asking anyone to self-impose a geriatric restriction, just saying to be mindful of others this gameIn post 10, Ydrasse wrote:post post post post post-
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You're all cowards for not putting cakez at E-1 on page 1-
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choosing to locktown LLD for that post, this is a great idea i see no downside to~-
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invent a really stupid take based on people's openings that will force others to respond to itIn post 29, Ydrasse wrote:i am so bored-
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me checking the signup queue to make sure gif did not put a jester into his game-
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I'm a scared widdle kitty catIn post 89, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what is this cowardice catboi
I'm not sure I want to kill cakez. (In the past whenever I felt this he has been scum but I can't help myself)
did the same thing
I think kilga's response to me making a joke about cakez being put to E-1, followed by the response to that, is basically predictable in that if you did the same thing with any group of players in a game you'd get the same response. But I do think Kilga is the pingiest out of anyone so far and the vote on Wavelength doesn't help. Kilga barely ever plays though so the error bars are big, I want to use at least aliiiittlecaution. (also also inside I'm sad at the possibility of breaking up the little fgo 1 mini reunion we've got going)-
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The thing is to me, it being early Day 1, Wavelength having 2 posts with no content doesn't mean a whole lot, because not everyone gets involved this early. His 2 posts don't really give me scum pings, they're nothing posts. It could be suggested he's struggling to post as scum, but I assume he's an alternate account and probably has no trouble posting/fitting in.In post 103, Kilgamayan wrote:The lacking substance felt more viscerally bad than continued ED1 silliness. To be clear, it wasn't a matter of "find the person with the fewest posts and vote for that person", it was a matter of going through the player list in my head and doing a mental exercise of "X is playing, and this is what I remember feeling from their posts" for each player. Wavelength was the only player where the result was "I don't remember anything this person did and I don't remember feeling any sort of thing about this person", and those types of slots tend to be red, in my experience playing the Mafiers.
So what I'm left with is you voting a low content slot, and that is the type of vote I see scum makea lot, because in theory it's low accountability, no one likes a player who isn't saying much.But it doesn't really serve a useful purpose because if someone is inactive putting a vote on them isn't going to exert meaningful pressure and it doesn't get into the dirty work of trying to analyze what people are actually saying. This is because it's harder to make a case on townies who are being town.
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I know I asked people to exercise restrain but this is perhaps too much restraint lol-
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he's having fun, cakez. why do you hate fun?????In post 112, SirCakez wrote:Will notscience make a town post? Find out tomorrow-
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I grok kilga's explanation for the vote but in a vacuum it still bothers me b/c I don't really place a different emphasis on end of day voting vs votes in the middle of the day but I...kind of...buy the idea it was for the sake of pressuring wavelength to do more over a "this is who I want to yeet" vote-
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Yeah I mean it's my fault partly because I went afk sunday but cakez hasn't done anything so eh ok maybe we should be voting himIn post 169, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:look man you asked for geriatric lol
i tried to kill people, you went all scaredy cat (heh) and now i'm demotivated (read: sidetracked)-
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I read that post and I wanted to see how syr responded to it, which he...didn't really. I thought 77 was a little suspect at the time because it kind of felt like he was latching on to any suspicion that gained some level of sway with the thread but it was...kind of an early game gut thing I didn't want to make a move on, if that makes sense. I'm not whelmed by what he's posting on page 6 but...I dunno. Game feels a bit like it's stuck in neutral.In post 170, Dunnstral wrote:
Since it was largely brushed past the first time and the thread is slow, what do you think of what I am saying in 115 when I cased SyryanaIn post 168, catboi wrote: wow this fell off a cliff huh-
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The point he's making is he doesn't think it's a bad vote because it's early and he doesn't have better optionsIn post 173, Dunnstral wrote:I am reading Kilga's big post and am a little befuddled. I don't think I fully understand what they are trying to say.
I see they are explaining their thought process and that is fine. But when they say "that is where 106 is coming from" I don't really get it because I still feel like they were both saying it is a lurker vote but also not, and I don't think that part was directly addressed and it instead talks about something slightly different.
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VOTE: cakez
I don't like 133 being his only significant contribution in 24 hours - returning solely to make a "why would I do this as scum" post while not contributing anything else doesn't come across and being invested in actually solving the game.-
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i didn't make that vote with the intention of eliminating him and i'm in general very pissed at that hammer especially given the shitshow in open 873, he should know betterIn post 298, Ydrasse wrote: i feel bad because i was at work and i thought cakez's posting was towny but i didn't bother posting it at the time and maybe i could have like helped him somehow. sorry dude-
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lmaoIn post 318, notscience wrote:I’m not really defending my actions, I fully anticipate to die today but I’d rather find scum before I do
This is going to sound really dumb but like, there’s this cycle where one game fuckingn sucks then there’s a few that we just dunk day one and I felt like this was the dunk day one game
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I keep going back in forth in my head whether I buy that excuse or outright hate it-
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To put pressure on him to get more out of him. Like, had the response been bad I would have gone through with it but I certainly wasn't ready to end the day. My attention was off this game because I was occupied by a high-intensity game elsewhere though and basically didn't get to check in by the the time the day had ended.In post 344, Syryana wrote:
Why did you make the vote thenIn post 317, catboi wrote:
i didn't make that vote with the intention of eliminating him and i'm in general very pissed at that hammer especially given the shitshow in open 873, he should know betterIn post 298, Ydrasse wrote: i feel bad because i was at work and i thought cakez's posting was towny but i didn't bother posting it at the time and maybe i could have like helped him somehow. sorry dude-
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now I'm fucking annoyed rereading those posts that I wasn't here for because I should have backed off
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hot take:
VOTE: LLD
I think she's not been towny where other people have exhibited some signs and in the back of my mind I have been thinking the wavelength kill makes sense as a low info kill.-
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I'm rereading the end of Day 1 to fully form opinionsIn post 368, Syryana wrote: Alright, well, you're here now. Where are you at?
I kind of think notty's posting isnot greatstill but wouldn't really be shocked for him to flip town, Dunn/ydrasse/kilga/you I've been starting to feel are surface-level okay but I haven't really bothered to contemplate you more deeply, my brain has not fully clicked to actually thinking about this game yet.-
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I think LLD has been playing loosey-goosey laid back to blend in with the generally low effort game start but I don't get the feel of the gears turning in her head anywhere, her early pushes seemed less like a true feeling than lining up whatever targets were most convenient. I think her backing off on the cakez elim was underwhelming and didn't show serious effort to prevent it or push a counterwagon elsewhere. It's a manuever I'm well versed in as scum - feebly protest as town shoves through a bad kill and keep your hands clean.-
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btw if you're reading this@SirCakez-I am well and truly sorry for how Day 1 went down, you deserved far better. I don't think you're a bad player and a lot of the blame rests squarely on me for not giving this game the proper attention it deserves.-
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The 269/270 is the first sequence where I see it and say, "Okay, I can see town writing this". That's obviously very thin but I think notty is more likely to take that much self-assuredness in him being town if he actually has a town role PM to back it up. It would be a nulltell if I was posting it but for him I kind of think it rings true.-
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sigh oh my god-
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I don't want to be the fucking bully here I'm just trying to play the game where my head has not been in it but clearly this approach is not helpful. I would prefer to give you space because clearly this right now is unhelpful and unpleasant for everyone involved so I'm going to limit my engagement here for now. Hopefully in the future we can both be in a spot to have actual dialogue.-
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well I'm sorryIn post 398, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
you're not the bully somehting is just WRONG with me.In post 397, catboi wrote: I don't want to be the fucking bully here I'm just trying to play the game where my head has not been in it but clearly this approach is not helpful. I would prefer to give you space because clearly this right now is unhelpful and unpleasant for everyone involved so I'm going to limit my engagement here for now. Hopefully in the future we can both be in a spot to have actual dialogue.
okay?
this isn't you this is me osmething is wrong with me
but I'd prefer for you to not play against wincon because you're having problems but I also want you to not feel this way so I'm going to break this off and stop posting for tonight. I think you would do well to log off and come back at a later time. Best wishes.-
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I think there's a collective responsibility thing here and I don't think you're solely to blame, i was part of the problem too. I think it's important to recognize that while a mistake was made beating yourself up excessively doesn't accomplish anything.In post 403, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:so i think okay i'll feel guilty as shit for being the fucking singular person who shoved cakez into that position and made them want to quit because i'm a piece of shit who couldn't even gather enough energy to save the fucking person when i did change my mind. it'd be one thing if it was a wrong read but i just let them down. I let them down and i feel completely demoralized.
so tried being ANGRY instead. Getting upset with Notty for hammering but he was just trying to have fun too and he's my friend so getting ANGRY didn't work so i just got EMPTY. so so so so empty. posting in this game became a herculean trial. i get prodded multiple times including the one today and so i'm like okay okay i have to do something so i cmoe back in read the thread and it's just "oh LLD probably was just being scum and not trying very hard" and it hit my guilt all over again but then i saw the apology to cakez and i was like i can't even apologize. i was the one responsible for making this friend of mine want to quit mafia and i can't do anything about it and now i have to try and defend myself about it?
It's game. People make mistakes as part of the game. Most of us try to pretend like we know what we're doing but really we're throwing darts blindfolded. sometimes you're wrong and there are things you could have done better but we can talk it out with him postgame and try to make amends but for now we have to keep playing.
I feel like I'm spending too wrong writing stuff like this but like. It's going to be okay. Don't take this so seriously. That's all I want to say.-
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That is correct as far as I go but I still had stance I took and you can evaluate me on thoseIn post 407, Kilgamayan wrote:At the risk of seeming cold and uncaring, I'm taking the last page and a half as NAI for everyone involved. The claim is noted, but that's it. Any further commentary seems beyond the scope of the game and better suited for postgame, where everyone can trust that everyone else is coming from an honest, well-wishing place.
because I had figured most people are more straightforward and kill someone who's generally townread, she'd be more likely to make a kill based on how it might influence the gamestate.In post 409, Dunnstral wrote:
When you are comfortable talking about this again, why do you associate low-info kill with LLDIn post 369, catboi wrote: hot take:
VOTE: LLD
I think she's not been towny where other people have exhibited some signs and in the back of my mind I have been thinking the wavelength kill makes sense as a low info kill.
I dunno how much I want to commit to that right now, I clearly need to ponder things a bit more-
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I did have similar doubts to syr on that dunn post-
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I would say that's correct, you make posts like that, but it still gave me a badIn post 413, Dunnstral wrote:
I feel like it's not uncommon for me to make posts like that, do you disagree with that?In post 411, catboi wrote: I did have similar doubts to syr on that dunn post
I'm not understanding the pushbackfeeling, looking at it.
If it's anything more detailed than "bad gut feeling" I'm afraid I don't have it for you, I just looked at the post and that was the sense I got. The vote felt over-explained, maybe?In post 414, Syryana wrote:I have an idea what the problem is with your post Dunn, but before I talk about it I'd like catboi to elaborate on his doubts-
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I appreciate that you are at last taking some level of meaningful stance on my alignment, because it has felt actively bizarre to me people seemingly don't really have any sort of opinion on me. This game has unfortunately been a struggle for me, which is kind of a theme fot a lot of games running back to last year. I didn't have that problem in PYP, I don't know what the issue is, I don't feel compelled to check the game. Normally I'd expect some suspicion or at least people commenting on me but a lot of the game doesn't seem to be saying much about me.In post 419, Kilgamayan wrote:Beyond that, I'd actually be willing to catboi as well, who my brain has sort of filed as LLD Lite. There's more meaningful content there but nothing about it stands out as clearly coming from town.
Still, it feels bizarre to me that on Day 2 of a micro your threshold for being willing to vote someone is "not clearly coming from town"? That doesn't feel like you're...actually trying to solve my alignment or investigate deeper meanings. Similarly, your reasoning for LLD is she "lacks discernible explanations for stances". That doesn't really strike me as a believable tell at all - just because someone isn't explaining their reads it doesn't mean they don't have any, I would sincerely doubt she wouldn't have reasons, regardless of her alignment. But you haven't bothered to actually try and investigate her at all, like possibly asking for explanations, just taken the stance you'd be okay with voting her. That doesn't sit right with me.-
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No. What had happened was I hadn't actually read the full end of Day 1. I generally don't read up during night phase and the whole end of the Day happened while I was AFK from the game. This is verifiable be me being prodded. I had thought you were okay but didn't really care for that post when I got to it.In post 423, Dunnstral wrote:
In this post I'm surface level ok recently, and this is after Syr takes issue with my postIn post 370, catboi wrote:
I'm rereading the end of Day 1 to fully form opinionsIn post 368, Syryana wrote: Alright, well, you're here now. Where are you at?
I kind of think notty's posting isnot greatstill but wouldn't really be shocked for him to flip town, Dunn/ydrasse/kilga/you I've been starting to feel are surface-level okay but I haven't really bothered to contemplate you more deeply, my brain has not fully clicked to actually thinking about this game yet.
Which makes it look like you are lying right now when you say you just had a bad feeling about my post. Because you are contradicting yourself-
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I had a bad feeling when I read the post. My thought was that the vote could have been an opportunistic one, given cakez was the lead wagon, and the way you justified the vote felt like youIn post 422, Dunnstral wrote: Hold on let's back up
In 351 Syryana says my post felt performative
In post 411 catboi says they have similar doubts to Syr
But now you are saying that it is normal for me to make posts like that and you just had a badfeeling, and also say I could be over-explaining
So what is it? Am I being performative, am I over-explaining, or do you have a bad feeling?mighthave been going to great lengths to justify it. I think in that spot scum are more likely to over-explain a vote. I think saying a vote is performative or overexplained can mean the same thing - that someone is going to lengths to unnecessarily justify something because they unconsciously see their action as suspicious and are trying to ward off the acccusation. At least that's my armchair psychology thought on the tell.
I will state also for the record I'm not voting you or pushing you over that post as of this moment. I'm still trying to read over the game and sort out how I feel. I noted that one thing. I think it makes syr more likely to be town in my mind but it doesn't necessarily make you scum.-
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okay, I'm going to try to get my head back in the game tonight. Mercy of MS deadlines is we still have a lot of time left even if the day's been slow so far.-
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sorry, i suck
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okay so in this exxchange I think ydrasse comes off better and kilga's attack on ydrasse feels like a very trivial type of gotcha, which I do not likeIn post 325, Ydrasse wrote:
do you think me not paying attention is a wolfy traitIn post 323, Kilgamayan wrote:
Basically, between the stuff I mentioned yesterday and what I quoted there, I don't think you're paying attention to your own stated suspicions. Like, yes, you've been Unpleased with me for most of the game, but you went from a statement of "i’d probably vote (kilga) last of (cakez, syr, kilga)" to restating a desire to vote for me without any mention of what happened to your Syr read in the meantime.In post 321, Ydrasse wrote: so do u think im partnered with syr : ?
i feel as if ive expressed more of a wolfread on u/through my actions this game than syr so this should not be a surprise but youre leaving the implication vague.
i also dont really know what about my lack of posting abt you two does to undermine my previously given reads
youve done nothing to change it nor warrant avoiding a vote
I do think you and Syr is certainly possible as the solution given the above and a general feeling from how I think the Mafia team would have approached the Cakez situation post-claim, but I'm not yet as sold on Syr as I am on you.
like do you think im just being careless with my play
my reasons to wolfread you were the ones i remembered more because i voted you most of yesterday, syr is still there and also on the wagon so like points there but me wanting to kill you is just falling back on where i voted all d1
this is the kind of response though that makes me feel like you and syr could be together though because youre like well IM NOT THERE YET on syr but more there on me and its like, micro game, push out townie and then fight for one more elim while keeping syr just out of danger-
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I think...normally I'm more used to people havingIn post 440, Syryana wrote:
It's not really all that surprising, is it? Other than call dunn town you've been riding that fence so hard this game I get splinters every time you post. You voted cakez, but went afk while he died (yes, I know, other games, engagement here, we're not gonna get anywhere going down that road I'm just making the point) then came back and complained because he got killed because you were just voting for pressure. You voted LLD once for pressure since.In post 425, catboi wrote:I appreciate that you are at last taking some level of meaningful stance on my alignment, because it has felt actively bizarre to me people seemingly don't really have any sort of opinion on me. This game has unfortunately been a struggle for me, which is kind of a theme fot a lot of games running back to last year. I didn't have that problem in PYP, I don't know what the issue is, I don't feel compelled to check the game. Normally I'd expect some suspicion or at least people commenting on me but a lot of the game doesn't seem to be saying much about me.
I STILL don't have a solid opinion on you. I know you as either alignment can play better than you've been playing and I can see the play you've shown thus far to be coming from a disengaged either alignment. Unfortunately that's been true of a lot of people this game, not just you.
I've gotten off track, I think. My original point was "why are you surprised nobody's commenting on you when you're one of several completely disengaged players this game".someform of opinion on me even when I'm not invested in the game. The treatment is...weird? Even if a player isn't invested in the game it's kind of surprising to have people seemingly punt on making a read on me at all.
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was mentally conditioned to click the little arrow in the quote tags and this fix momentarily broke my brain-
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That it was telegraphed dosn't...change a whole lot for me. Like, do you think he couldn't/wouldn't play it that way as scum? Because that's not really hard to do and has obvious pro-scum utility. Actually, the hammer bothers me significantly less than the "wait what" after cakez made his "fuck you I was town" post - that looked artificial to me. I've been giving notty space though because if he's town I want to give him an opportunity to show it rather than blindly killing but so far I'm not really whelmed by anything I'm seeing from him.In post 342, Syryana wrote: Yeah I came to that conclusion after rereading my post. I think I'm overthinking that one.
Pedit: Killing you for the hammer is stupid. You choreographed that you were lolhammering all day, and we all knew as soon as literally anyone was at E-1 they were gonna die if you were paying any attention. That reminds me, I wanted to ask him something.
I don't really think that's close to what she's doing at all and in fact she's probably one of the people I'm more confident is town out of anything.In post 348, Syryana wrote:
My problem with Ydra is that according to her she was very excited to play the game in RVS then just dropped off the face of the earth. Inconsistency is one thing but she starts off after with srsKilgaVote, then says spiritually she thinks Cakez is scum too, then pops me into the mix because I'm "holding hands with people", whatever that means. There's no thought behind her play, no reevaluation after being wrong on Cakez. Hell, if I had a dayvig shot I'd have dayvigged Kilga yesterday and evenIn post 343, notscience wrote: Dude I’m just having trouble parsing kilga
Like his push on ydra for inconsistency in a fourteen page game??
But I also realize I’m not the reigning authority when it comes to ydra as I’ve already kinda mentioned. But I am on the town side of the spectrum, it’s just with these little voices on my shoulders saying “why are you seeing it here and not there”I'mreevaluating. She accused Kilga of lining up miselims, but I think it looks more like that's what she's doing than Kilga.-
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if it helps I also want to vote kilga atpIn post 350, Ydrasse wrote: i want to vote you but i'm hesitant because i am stupid and dont get what youre doing-
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Is "trust me bro" not going to cut it? (probably not). I look at her posts and see them as coming from a townsperson. There's a high level of familiarity involved here and I'm not sure how well I'll be able to put it into words but I'll try to do a little when I have the timeIn post 453, Syryana wrote: Okay, because? I don't know that I've ever even played with Ydra before so I have nothing to go on there.-
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his posting today has been underwhelming after promising to do things but he also had that big v/la so i dunno
i don't have good reason to townread him now though. i want to give him a chance to actually play...still
atm - i think ydrasse is town, i kind of liked dunn popping off at me when he thought i was shading him for bad reasons
going to keep rereading stuff-
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it's cute that you think i need that much promptingIn post 470, Syryana wrote:In post 467, catboi wrote: his posting today has been underwhelming after promising to do things but he also had that big v/la so i dunno
i don't have good reason to townread him now though. i want to give him a chance to actually play...still
Oh for god's sake just bus him already
but i'm not ruling out the possibility he's town who has completely potato'd this game, not intentionally, but just because of unfortunate circumstances, and i'm being guarded against that possibility
if his play is a problem then he's gotta go but after my last game i'm not going to act like this is a slam dunk-
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I know this post is a week old, but what do you mean by the finger wag thing?In post 373, Syryana wrote:
That's a spicy take indeed. What makes you think scum, specifically? Happy to wait until you're done with your reread.In post 369, catboi wrote: hot take:
VOTE: LLD
I think she's not been towny where other people have exhibited some signs and in the back of my mind I have been thinking the wavelength kill makes sense as a low info kill.
Pedit I agree the cakez back off was underwhelming. Thing is for me the little fingerwag she did at the start of toDay doesn't really ring scum for me, I wouldn't expect such an... obvious? move to come from her as scum.-
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after the, uh, moment that derailed the game I don't have a ton of commentary to add
- I think syr is pretty towny actually and I liked what he was doing on page 14, it feels like he has been trying to kick the game into gear even if the engine won't start
- still think kilga is scummy-
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and since I think you're town I can maybe try to explain that ydrasse townread to you-
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sorry lol i've been in a funk this game but i think i'm getting back into itIn post 493, Syryana wrote:
As for the first part, if you hadn't seen it by now I'd be speed-yeeting youIn post 479, catboi wrote: - I think syr is pretty towny actually and I liked what he was doing on page 14, it feels like he has been trying to kick the game into gear even if the engine won't start
- still think kilga is scummy
As for the second, why?
Also you still owe me that explanation for Naidrasse
i will get to discussing ydrasse now-
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uhm
before I go on
please let's refrain from making this personal
it's just a game and there's no need to get super heated-
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I'm gonna be honest I looked at that notty post and my first instinct was "antispew". I try to avoid saying that because it's really not nice to say about someone when it's incorrect, but. Feels like beyond phoning it in it's refusing to commit to anything meaningful which I'd associae with not wanting to give anything away-
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*shrug*In post 515, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
right but this day is so fragile and unmotivated, if Notty just took a hard line stand on say like, Syr, he'd kill Syr.In post 514, catboi wrote: I'm gonna be honest I looked at that notty post and my first instinct was "antispew". I try to avoid saying that because it's really not nice to say about someone when it's incorrect, but. Feels like beyond phoning it in it's refusing to commit to anything meaningful which I'd associae with not wanting to give anything away
Hardline stance in Kilga maybe kills Kilga.
So Notty could live here, why isn't he trying to?
not everyone has the will, if he's scum he's afraid of tripping up or can't bring himself to push a fake case-
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stuff on ydrasse for@syr. I'm going to spoiler tag this even though I had doing so but I feel like I need to pull quotes to be able to explain what I'm seeing here
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Responses to kilga - have a little bit of self-righteousness to them which I think comes from a town mindset. The last line in bold is paranoid and worldbuilding on a slight thing, comes across as genuine from her as looking at angles and reading into words closely. I just buy it as a real suspicion and not an angle she's pushing as scum because it does not feel convenient or contrived
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There's a puzzled uncertainty in this response to kilga where she's working through trying to decide whether he's actually scum or not, I buy it, it feels like gears turning, it feels inwwardly focused in terms of what she's writing rather than trying to directly confront her attacker
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i like the last line here, but overall the whole post reads genuine and in line with what i expect from ydrasse as town. she's playing intuitively and can't fully articulate thoughts but when she does manage to form words around it itmakes sense to me
taken all together I look at these posts and they seem like someone who's solving-
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then who are you looking atIn post 523, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: anyway, i don't want to kill notty today anymore, sadly.
there's been enough apathy and very little time left that this new apathy string doesn't feel like it saves him so i wonder-
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