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Post #12 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:28 pm
Postby This is me »
@mod won't voting in the other thread be a dead giveaway to who we are? Wouldn't it be easier to just pm you on our mains after voting to validate it?
I can't see such a system being as anonymous as you want it to be
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Post #21 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:03 am
Postby This is me »
The BP Claim strategy is a bad idea here where we cannot even confirm who is claiming BP or not. It doesn't work here.
Someone is pretending to be Vijarada in either 17 or 20. That person is perhaps more likely to be scum, but we cannot rule out simple early-game joking yet. We need a more robust method of confirming signatures than simply this, as scum could potentially masquerade as anyone else. I am trying to think of a strategy that actually confirms someone as being the author, but it's a non-trivial problem.
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Post #22 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:38 am
Postby This is me »
If all we have to go on is words then it probably won't work. If you do have a way of identifying that someone is someone by the way they made it easy to do so, then I'd suggest not saying how for obvious reasons. So then, let's play this game shall we? This autta be hella interesting
-leaf
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Post #23 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:25 am
Postby This is me »
How about this system?
In each post we sign, we name a random player. (It doesn't need to be anyone we scumread).
We then vote that person, and immediately revert our vote. (The immediate reversion, which should be done in a matter of seconds, avoids any issues during MyLo/LyLo.)
I randomly chose XnajdroX. I can also confirm that my only other post was 21. I particularly want Vijarada to do the same.
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Post #25 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:22 am
Postby This is me »
That could work although I think we should save it for only if we have a conflict or we need some sort of confirmation since it's kind of inconvenient to do every single post. There is a flaw though. Another player can still vote whoever the "this is me" account said they would if multiple people are on at the same time and refreshing.
-Raya
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Post #26 (isolation #18) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:39 am
Postby This is me »
Not really.
Suppose player Y claims to be player X. Both post under player X's name and there is a dispute. Both players are online and refreshing. Now, it doesn't matter if player Y votes. Only Player X has access to their own main account so only they can vote under their own account.
If Player Y tried this, it would be immediately apparent that, though someone claiming to be player X is saying that they will vote, it is actually player Y who is voting.
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Post #27 (isolation #19) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:15 pm
Postby This is me »
Yeah, you're right. I completely forgot that we would still be signing our posts lol
I still think we should just use it for conflicts though for the sake of convenience.
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Post #29 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:13 pm
Postby This is me »
I think I'll call myself The. Unless I'm not the. But i'm not. I'm really not sure how this game is supposed to work, so I'm not putting much effort in.
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Post #37 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:19 pm
Postby This is me »
Hmm.. well I'd like to stay anonymous. Besides I'd like to say there's another person here with us as well without a name. Probably the troll. Can we call him/her copycat?
-leaf
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Post #41 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:53 pm
Postby This is me »
Do we actually want to try and lynch someone? There's very little to go on as far as VCA, but waiting around isn't going to do any good. I think wagons tend to get started from something someone said during RVS. We've had RVS, but not comments really attached to those votes.
I've got to say I'm fairly happy with XnadrojX. He hadn't voted, but he's been active. I like leaf too, not that it does much good. Based on well written posts, I'm thinking maybe Raya, but I don't know all the players.
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Post #44 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:44 am
Postby This is me »
In post 24, This is me wrote:That would be nice, if only we didn't have the rule where of we hint our main account we get a warning. The nickname system should work for now
-leaf
In post 41, This is me wrote:Do we actually want to try and lynch someone? There's very little to go on as far as VCA, but waiting around isn't going to do any good. I think wagons tend to get started from something someone said during RVS. We've had RVS, but not comments really attached to those votes.
I've got to say I'm fairly happy with XnadrojX. He hadn't voted, but he's been active. I like leaf too, not that it does much good. Based on well written posts, I'm thinking maybe Raya, but I don't know all the players.
Good idea, let's try to lynch the only active people in the game
In post 24, This is me wrote:That would be nice, if only we didn't have the rule where of we hint our main account we get a warning. The nickname system should work for now
-leaf
Wait, where is this rule?
I'm so sure I saw it somewhere but I'm not sure where. I pmed the mod about it but I never got a response. Maybe it was all in my head
In post 41, This is me wrote:Do we actually want to try and lynch someone? There's very little to go on as far as VCA, but waiting around isn't going to do any good. I think wagons tend to get started from something someone said during RVS. We've had RVS, but not comments really attached to those votes.
I've got to say I'm fairly happy with XnadrojX. He hadn't voted, but he's been active. I like leaf too, not that it does much good. Based on well written posts, I'm thinking maybe Raya, but I don't know all the players.
Good idea, let's try to lynch the only active people in the game
-leaf
Not what I meant at all though I can see it's unclear. The people I'm happy with are the ones I don't want to vote. And I was guessing Leaf could be Raya. I rather think not now. I like leaf, Raya is null because of no known input.
What even is this? You can't know who the scum are unless you're one of them. And who are you anyway? The signature indicates Dogwatch, but that's my latest idea for leaf's identity. I still need to look Dogwatch up and see if there's any comparison.
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Post #51 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:39 am
Postby This is me »
ok so a bunch of people have been doing some votes in the votethread, honestly if people don't start signing seriously it's gonna get cancerous, I'm voting TheBrie for now because those votes they made just feels weird.
Also has anyone actually used the votes seriously or is it just try to RVS despite the absolute lack of pressure since it's all anoynomous.
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Post #52 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:41 am
Postby This is me »
All the Town should sign properly from here IMO so we can catch the scum that's not signing via PoE, so The and leaf and doggie if you're actually Town please sign properly or we'll get this shit to PoE you.
If 2 people fake sign, that should leave us someone who hasn't shown their name, so calling out fakesigns (assuming Town properly signs) confirms the scum. So I'm assuming scum isn't fakesigning based off this, which is another reason to actually properly sign. Town gains nothing from not properly signing so please.
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Post #54 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:45 am
Postby This is me »
I didn't write that. But I did notice that troll post 49 was written right around the same time that Brie voted for slimer in the voting thread (post 17). They were both posted around 3:20am - 3:30am. Brie is in Australia, meaning that she has a pretty different schedule than the rest of us and would post while most of us are sleeping.
I also think "The" is TheBrie based on writing style and obviously the nickname. Post 50 in this thread looks to me like she's calling herself out in order to distance herself from the troll post to gain town cred.
To prove I'm who I say I am, I'm voting for Brie right now.
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Post #58 (isolation #49) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:39 pm
Postby This is me »
Raya was complete random vote. Xnad was to get his attention becuase he hadn't voted yet. I did note that at the time, though I didn't specifically say I was going to vote him. Slimer was because I'm thinking Xnad is town, and his vote change had no reason behind it. I probably should have explained.
Since there actually doesn't seem to be any penalty for giving names, I'll do it now. I take credit for every post signed The, except the fake self vote on I already called out.
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Post #59 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:49 pm
Postby This is me »
I also take credit (or censure) for three troll posts.
#7 was because I felt lazy.
#31 because I was bored and felt like calling out the person who self voted as myself and someone else.
And I can't deny #49 (doggie). I was trying to get reactions. See who called me out and how. Not enough was going on, so i had to create my own drama. That post does not actually reflect my own opinions on any of the players mentioned. I think Raya is town. and I think Dogwatch is town. NTRP is a complete null.
I also got to claim #40 because I didn't feel like claiming the trolls posts back then. And #36 because i wanted to see if people picked up who i was. probably should have out The is that too.
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Post #62 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:07 pm
Postby This is me »
I don't know how you picked up that #57 was slimer, but good job.
I don't really like his explanation, his still not using any kind of signature, and his unvote on being called out on giving to reason for the vote. So I'm not going to move my vote of him at the moment.
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Post #63 (isolation #54) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:19 am
Postby This is me »
In post 59, This is me wrote:I also take credit (or censure) for three troll posts.
#7 was because I felt lazy.
#31 because I was bored and felt like calling out the person who self voted as myself and someone else.
And I can't deny #49 (doggie). I was trying to get reactions. See who called me out and how. Not enough was going on, so i had to create my own drama. That post does not actually reflect my own opinions on any of the players mentioned. I think Raya is town. and I think Dogwatch is town. NTRP is a complete null.
I also got to claim #40 because I didn't feel like claiming the trolls posts back then. And #36 because i wanted to see if people picked up who i was. probably should have out The is that too.
~Brie
You're not cleared just for owning up to it though. To me this just looks like caught scum playing the "it's not what it looks like" card. It's damage control.
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Post #64 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:26 am
Postby This is me »
1. Matrix 6 setup. So we should have a decent game. The fact that the posts themselves are anonymous but not the votes are tremendously helpful. Hopefully the single machination of this game does not get the better of us. I am worried slightly about the persons trolling. Either it is bored scum who does not know how to take advantage of anonimity or just a VI in the town. This leaf person will maybe lose us the game he might be town, but if he survives towrds the end I would probably lynch him if I am alive my paranoia would win out.
The current plan is to sign our posts. We should have another plan. Plans on plans. Like concentrate our votes on the persons who are not signing their posts. Its better than nothing but I am amenable to the standard option and to do nothing.
I am forgetting something but I cant remember it
It had to do with vijarda, slimer, dogwatch, brie, and raya I think I wrote them down as possible scum. It'll come to me.
I'm want to vote for nottherealpaul since I havent seen him but he has voted and we can eliminate a few questions about who posted what. If he answers we can move on to the next person.
@thebrie any ideas on what else we can do to minimize confusion about who posted what? And do you think post 17 and 20 are written by the same person?
@NTRP I wanna know if you have posted in this thread and which posts are yours,
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Post #65 (isolation #56) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:57 pm
Postby This is me »
@Post #63 That's reasonable. I didn't expect people to trust me immediately. But seriously think about what the scum motive for the troll post could be? Is anyone seriously going to listen to something like that?
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Post #67 (isolation #58) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:13 pm
Postby This is me »
@Yakko You're a replacement right? And from what I understand you're replacing NTRP. So why are you acting like he's another player? Who do you think you are replacing? The mod hasn't officially said anything, so it's kinda confusing.
I doubt 17 and 20 were the same person. I can't see nay motive for doing that from a town standpoint, and it seems kind of stupid as scum. Also one had punctuation. It could be faked, but I doubt it was. And 20 can't be fake signed.