Open 836 Datisi Notes

[Datisi]

thank you s_s

i wanted to document my experience as a town vig so that the rest of the town knows why i fucked up the game

also i think a scumteam with n_m on it probably doesn't pick vig?

[Datisi]

enchant is my secret scumread because i remember them commenting about mech things in pyp as scum

granted it's not hugely scummy idk but gotta start somewhere

[Datisi]

also i had a brilliant idea of how to fakesoft vig to hopefully get scum to shoot me

then i rolled vig for real lol

s_s i didn't know you can read my mind

[Datisi]

vp unironically reads more relaxed than that one scumgame (+ hectic told me drunkposting is always +town) but we all know i can't read his tone for shit and that i will probably have a mental breakdown over his alignment at least like 5 times this game

[Datisi]

i wonder if ico rolled scum for the 6th game in a row

i fully expected to have a strong read on him by now and i am not happy about this

[Datisi]

Also, hypoclaiming introduces topics of conversation like “why would you target echant, everybody knows echant is town. Well, except enchant. They don’t even know who echant is.”

i am once again running into the problem of not knowing if i'm townreading bingle or if i just think he's funny

[Datisi]

oh shit i just noticed i have mod perms

thank you s_s

[Datisi]

i am shocked you think i would ever shoot you </3

plot twist

i *will* shoot him

maybe.

[Datisi]

plan for if i start scumreading our dear dragon iconeum:

pretend to hardtownread him, shoot him on n1, use the info from his pushes to hunt for his buddies, then have an egg on my face when he flips ic

[Datisi]

if i absolute gun-to-head had to name the scumteam right now, i would say ico/baltar/skitt

the first two feel tonally off (and ico's "i'm not sure who to pressure, everyone is whatever, oh hi baltar ur scum" reminded me of what he did with peta once)

and something about skitt just feels off wrt ico? like her saying that ico feels off while not voting him, or saying that the read on me is on standby until ico appears (feels like her "read" on me is gonna be very dependent on my read on ico you feel)

[Datisi]

god i'm doing the thing again where i roll tpr and get very excited to solve which makes people townread me oh god oh shit oh fuck uhhh

[Datisi]

i love the mod notes

[Datisi]

VOTE: iconeum

is the dragon frozen

why
how
…

i have so many questions about this but instead i'll just omgus this

VOTE: peta

VOTE: vp baltar

ur scum, right?

:thonk:

[Datisi]

i feel like voting vp baltar but i think i will act pocketed by him for now to see where he goes

either i'm right and i am 9000 iq-ing mafia, or i am wrong so i will say post game that my townread of him was genuine and i will also redact this post lole

[Datisi]

note: baltar was acting *very* paranoid of me in 2207. run a quick meta check when i can on how soon that paranoia started. something is wrong...

[Datisi]

Bingle is town.

could you elaborate on this claim

Found his explanation of optimal town play related to the roles to be authentic in trying to simply explain what he saw as the best moves for town.

which is like the easiest thing for scum to use and gain town credit
that's an easy read you make there VP

*slams fists on the table*

THIS! IS! THEATRE!

[Datisi]

ok, i ctrl+f'ed "dat" in his iso here: viewtopic.php?t=86364&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

quick notes
- finds it townie when i'm acting like a paranoid anxious moron
- finds it scummy when i'm doing cheap postshots
- i did find him tonally scummy there too so maybe shouldn't be a very strong point: viewtopic.php?p=12717388#p12717388
- shot down luca blight's read of me early game: viewtopic.php?p=12707357#p12707357

now, i *know* recency bias is a thing and that 2195 had like, *just* ended then vs now when it's been over half a year since. but but but but aaaaaah

another thing that i noticed is the weird aggression of "after dunn!scum, flip gamma" and such, that i can very vaguely remember from him in 2157 but not anywhere else. meaning i'm gonna have to read through like 5 isos to see if i'm confbiasing or not fuck my life

[Datisi]

if i were an actual pro player i'd go over my iso in 2195 and try to emulate that, but just as scum!tisi cannot mimic town!tisi, town!tisi is similarly bad at mimicking scum!tisi

[Datisi]

*overly dramatic sigh*

[Datisi]

lying about not remembering having exp with scum!me in order to not have to fake a convincing paranoia trajectory...

[Datisi]

I CAN SEE THROUGH YOUR LIES

[Datisi]

i just spent 5 minutes going through baltar's iso in jungle oligarchy and multiquoting to then be met with "haha forum locked fuck you"

[Datisi]

We are now around 600 here, so that is around double the information for me to go on in my feelings toward you. Second to that point, I have already said this is a day 1 read and

is not the equivalent of me hard town reading you like we did in Jungle oligarchy or something

.

meanwhile, in jungle oligarchy:

Spoiler:

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

Sorry you drew scum though. Will catch up later today.

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

Also not acknowledging I'm here, but striking up friendly banter with Datisi?

because i'm obviously the more fun person to strike friendly banter with, duh

I'm more fun as scum too.

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

baltar what is your opinion on my slot in this very moment in time we call the present

I still don't like that Marashu and Titus were hard defending each other unprovoked. The fact it went both ways is hugely concerning.

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

idk who the other scum are because I've put zero thought into this game since. Still a reasonable chance that Titus and Datisi are werewolves. Datisi isn't mafia.

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

In terms of why I'd start the galaxii wagon, even if I thought you might be a werewolf, why not?

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

As far as why I am townreading Titus, I expressed more of a town read on her yesterday from her play. A Titus/Datisi wolf combo was the only thing holding me back from more of a full commitment there. With Datisi flipping green, I think Titus' town equity goes up.

Subject: Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

Look at the way I worked with Datisi this game. I definitely had it in my mind from D1 that he could have been a wolf, but working with him made way more sense than being paranoid as long as we we're catching scum.

h m m m m m m m m

s_s what do you think

[Datisi]

pp?? ico??? vp???? gamesolve???????

[Datisi]

literally my entire case for vp being scum is that i think ico is scum and that one post he made towards baltar reminded me of another post he once made towards a buddy LMAO

[Datisi]

why the fuck am i the vigilante

[Datisi]

very stupid??? tell??????? does town vp ever wallpost?????????? i will investigate

[Datisi]

vp and ico are scum together and my heart breaks for not being the third one in the party ;_;

[Datisi]

like, i would

UNIRONICALLY

pay good fucking money to be scum with those two

and what am i instead

town vigilante

and i must kill them

fate is cruel

[Datisi]

s_s is either manically laughing in his mod pt or calling me a genius

[Datisi]

very stupid??? tell??????? does town vp ever wallpost?????????? i will investigate

i should elaborate so people don't think i'm completely out of my fucking mind

i reread a good portion of vp's iso from 2157 yesterday (i think it was yesterday? time is a lie idk) and i noticed how there was a wallpost. a few of them. ok whatever. but i lefuckinggit don't remember him making a wallpost like, ever since. now "wallpost = scum" is such a horrible take i'm scumreading myself while i'm saying it. but. but but but but but but but what if WHAT IF

i'm tired rn and i have things to fucking do but this is on my list, speedskimming through all his games since last year because i am legit fucking intrigued now

[Datisi]

both vp and ico are taking vague potshots at each other

both vp and ico are voting dunn

both vp and ico are trying to get others to vote dunn

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Datisi]

my personal conspiracy theory is that s_s purposefully gave me vig so that he can see me go even more mad than before (jk luv u)

[Datisi]

both vp and ico are suspiciously not up to voting each other

isn't that

curious

[Datisi]

i am liking cakez less and less

[Datisi]

something just occurred to me - would scum!dunn be playing like *that* while knowing there's a vig in town?

[Datisi]

oh dear

[Datisi]

homework for the night phase

check that mini normal game
check that c9++ game
compare cakez meta

[Datisi]

you are not the first person to notice that. if her standards for hydra partners ever sink that low, we could hydra.

[Datisi]

darby/fng/cakez

don't @ me

[Datisi]

ahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHASBAHA

ICONEUM BUDDY

6 GAMES IN A FUCKING ROW

[Datisi]

so i wake up

first i see i got a C on a test i was 98% sure i was gonna fail

then i see i was right all along on my ico scumead

today is a good fucking day already

[Datisi]

shit am i going to die

shit vp didn't wanna vote ico

shiiiiit

now i need to actually dig through the associates oh no

[Datisi]

of course i could do the smart thing and shoot the basically claimed vt

but do i look like i do smart things

[Datisi]

also i had a dream that mena replaced into this game and had a hard townread of me, but he wasn't locktowning me because at one point i said the word "cope"

also i think he was scumreading baltar... maybe i should shoot him because of that LOL

[Datisi]

will i sheep dream!mena??? maybe

i did some skimming of my own iso and i keep noticing just how *awkward* baltar acts around ico. will also take a look at 2207 again.

it's looking like my main shot targets are gonna be cakez/vp/gamma? we'll see

[Datisi]

aaaaah i want to shoot vp

but i am NEVER hearing the end of it if he's town

[Datisi]

i have been wrong on him being scum many times before that's my issue

actually like, once before

once and a half if we count jungle oligarchy, i knew he wasn't mafia there

hmmmmmmmmmm

[Datisi]

i am bad at playing power roles

[Datisi]

ok, i got some popcorn, some tea, time to pretend i know how to play mafia

page 4

damn i'm fucking good figuring out ico was sounding wrong
i'm reminded of skitter trying to make me an ico partner, and i *want* to say that's scummy, but i do not see the scum motivation for that - like surely she knows that once i *do* get a scumread on iconeum i will be practically yeetproof???

141 - this was originally meant as a shitpost, nothing more, nothing less. only later on did i realize that it can be taken as a vig soft. /sigh

217 - oh yeah cakez was doing this bullshit for the whole fucking game... ok ok ok i need... that mini normal where i was backup roleblocker, my notes, c9++, notes from there

let's go get them actually

[Datisi]

mini 2180 - viewtopic.php?t=85074
notes - viewtopic.php?f=90&t=85079

c9++ - viewtopic.php?t=86835
notes - viewtopic.php?f=90&t=86839

[Datisi]

quick skim, i had a correct townread on cakez in 2180 and a correct not-townread on cakez in c9++

ooooooh am i about to blindly trust myself

[Datisi]

i wanted to say "does cakez really attack me the whole game and townread ico and basically plug his ears and go lalalala i can't hear you datisi is scum pushing town!ico"

but reskimming his iso from c9++, i can actually fucking see it

[Datisi]

i would like to murder sircakez tonight

(s_s pls confirm you allow me to input night actions here)

i will definitely keep reading, but i would like to submit a placeholder at least

[Datisi]

i'm all out of popcorn

[Datisi]

murdering sircakez is gonna be a lowkey vigclaim from me. but also, as long as i survive the night, that doesn't really matter.

problem also is that i don't really think i will survive the night anyway LOL

[Datisi]

sigh. on page 30 so far, will finish the rest tomorrow.

i think i'm not shooting vp after all. i've had my read on him be Very Wrong after d1, and he becomes much more readable as the game progresses, at least for me. (will i be around though...)

rereading, i see a lot of people were worried about gamma. i need to actually take a look at whatever the associates are, but it's at least a net-zero shot.

that said, a decent amount of people are townreading cakez too... not sure if i find it compelling, though.

[Datisi]

i wanna take another one down with me :/

[Datisi]

i lied i kept readin i'm gonna stop now but

Subject: Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Night 1)

SirC's been pushing and seeking support for his pushes - i like his general thread presence

have I? lol I don't understand why I am getting townreads this game I have hardly been doing anything

Major townpoints to Cakes for this actually. I was wondering why the hell everyone is town binning him as well since he wasn't here, and then he calls it out himself!

this post was on my mind - was it really that townie that cakez called out bad townreads of himself? and then i see the original person giving that townread is ico... yeah, back into the "not townie" pile it goes

[Datisi]

just got done with doing School Stuff for the day, so now i got... 40 pages to reread... and i got a headache...

let's have some sorta dinner first, i guess.

[Datisi]

up to this point, cakez's scumreads are

datisi, because he was attacking ico
skitter, because she was attacking ico

idk fam

[Datisi]

viewtopic.php?p=13128120#p13128120

bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[Datisi]

like, i am aware that my ~35 games of meta experience with the dragon might be making me biased here, because those posts read as blatantly scum to me, but but but surely this cannot be an actual read?

[Datisi]

earlier when i went for a walk i was thinking of this game and i started getting tunnelled on my vp/ico s/s read because [vague nonsense associates] but i am onCE AGAIN getting the feeling that Somethig is Wrong with Skitter -- like it seems like she is accusing so many different people as partners with ico ahhhhh

[Datisi]

maybe it's the fact that last game with scum!cakez he was like "no i think kerset is town i will vote a50" and now i see him going "no i think ico is town i will vote fng" and hmmmmmm

[Datisi]

Subject: Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Night 1)

Still feel p good abt town-cakez

~ skitter

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Datisi]

the more i'm reading the less confident i feel in anything :/

[Datisi]

viewtopic.php?p=13133620#p13133620

the fuck? i completely forgot about this vote

[Datisi]

didn't last too long, though.

[Datisi]

gah, bingle is also scumreading gamma. i'm wondering if the "shoot the next person in poe who also is a claimed vt" is the correct approach,,,

i guess i'll see how exactly the eod wagons played out and whether they smell s/s. i'm so tired...

[Datisi]

viewtopic.php?p=13137049#p13137049 - this was the gamma vote from darby... i don't think this is s/s?

[Datisi]

cakez went from "ico is really town" to "would lim for info" and like idk fam i don't like it

[Datisi]

ok, done until hammer. i don't think i'm changing the shot. i know i'm kinda going against the grain here, but... hey, like things were ever gonna end up well after i randed vig.

[Datisi]

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