Mini Normal 2283 - Mafia PT

Eiralox · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:59 am

Amok #8279

Eiralox · Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:54 am

might fakeclaim 1-shot bulletproof fruit vendor if under pressure before claiming mailman, asking mail receivers to act as if i'm a vendor (BP claim subject to scrutiny, not adding to night messages maybe,,,, depending on later and heals well see,,,,, ) i think i can spin the fakeclaim as: scum less likely to nk vendor than mailman, and depending on mail target efficacy, ill havetown folk backing me up after iu reveal it's fake,

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Basically today I'm going to sheep enchant, Not_Mafia and Asia, if safe.

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tmrw in thread I think i'll push toward frogster and firebringer.............. not hard but little piranha nudges just so im seen doing soemthing,

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some reason i keep expecting here to be masons. eh. luck bunnies

Eiralox · Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:49 pm

Eiralox · Post Post #22 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:32 pm

I don't think I'll be mailbombing Solway, Grib or Firebringer, therefore I'm inclined to include them as early NK candidates. Don't know what ya'll think.

Eiralox · Post Post #23 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:34 pm

Hmmm wait... I think of the three I might remove Grib from that list, will observe. Solway and Fire seem way to sharp for me to see the value of a N1 communikay

Eiralox · Post Post #24 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:44 am

I don't even remember whether I have any completed forum scum games btw..... if I have they are from 2016. and off-site amateurish and probably 2 at most, at a stretch. probably one or none. So honestly...... if ya'll see me acting in a dumb manner, freely point it out. I might be the weakest link here page-wise, so depending on levels of sus I can do NK's so that Blue can claim VT if wished, and so that Frogster can safely parade as Town Doc.

Eiralox · Post Post #44 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:31 am

lol i doubt with any veracity. so far i only got a hunch that Enchant is VT. And then there honestly might be a pr between elements and Asia? maybe elements? idk why i guess it's just a hunch, both have defended themselves and for some reason my brain went there when I read your kwestion so... noting it.

it happens a lot, brain farts, so meh don't know whether I trust myself on these sometimes ; /

but as i'm re-reading things I'll..... try and see if I can conceive of how i'd go about catching a pr..... desperation, recalcitrance, these are pointers i'd guess, but some p,layers are good at keeping cool or craftins masks so meh......... generalities.

Eiralox · Post Post #45 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:19 am

oki had smoke and have out-there theory that n_m can be pr. still in incubation, depending on when/if N_M returns will expand/scrap as needed.

Eiralox · Post Post #46 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:09 am

damn i had big post soft-attacking grib all posted then realized i'd fucked up cos it was all wrong/........ the status quo voted for grib and had a light tiff so a lot of my arguments in there were moot and idda been a pretty veiless launch, instead of the subtle proddding my dubious mind figured idda be.

Now i'm just listenin' to music and trying to figure out where i'll start my train's ;launch.... i want to have a good few posts prodding into various places while also sorta softening some sus on bbt by making a more sincere and less acerbic reply to Blue, maybe fluffing it up with going thru Asia iso, so sorta treating bbt like town/null while hard-defending Asia with fax logix.

BBt wether u meant my first post was bad or not, i think it was fishy af, and Solway picked up on my tonality... cos that post i edited a lot too seem like it was typed faster, some parts at least, and i really was afraid ppl would pick up on that jank... only Solway sorta mentioned it, only u spoke the tru trus XD I'm a little nervous about my tone but honestly i'm closer now, just gonna see where imma enter the cave....

Eiralox · Post Post #47 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:36 am

if grib is a good candidate for mail then me friendly-prodding them and asking them camaraderly questions can be a good strat, cos then they'll feel like i have good reason to trust them above the hoi polloi... ppl might ask why I'm not mailing Asia, so maybe I can say that my Asia read remains solid, i'll message them N2 after we both have a bettter grip on the game{(if Asia doesnt flip by then ofc, which might be good cos if Asia green then ppl might feel greener on my pocket idk )}, but I really think you Grib/other is prob town(along with asia i soft greened grib, my greatest fear with my role is that it can townclear way too many ppl if i were to flip at the wrong moment..... which with tk very likely, and with humans being humans, is 0-100% probable at this point. so at least if it's grib n1 and asia n2 then my flip doesnt give any more info than my first post, i hope, where i greened 'em both.

I'm open to any suggestions tbh

Eiralox · Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:48 am

so like if i flip then all those alive whove been mailed can claim town...... counters:

1. After n1/n2 mail messages become more rambling, incoherent, formal and ultimately un-eiraloxy, pushing absurd teams, evincing stilted and clearly manipulative language, and not being long at all, while scum have access to better, more eiraloxy ones that subtly push certain teams, a malicous attempt of eira to poison bbt/frogster's mind with malicious lies. Meaning: If i flip then some recipient will claim theyve got mail, but what they'll have wont mesh with tone of what Grib?/Asia?/bbt/frogster has, {idk to extent these message can quoted in-thread ill read up}, so they'll be the odd ones out maybe looking more scummy....... Overall i don't like this plan so much. risky..... maybe......

2. Well timed NK's. If we kill enough ppl who've received mail while also making sure the mail achieves something, then once/if i flip there'll be fewer ppl who shout from the rooftops: "Eira mailed me, im conf town!" I honestly like this plan better, i see it being safe. This might mean that holistically our mail/nk targets might need to focus on possible pr's.... which might mean a shift away from grib/asia depending on feels.

Idk whether im overthinking this but honestly i also don't know whether i have the grit/dastardly cunning to survive to endgame, so i feel this is a possible hitch in the road we might need to factor in. what i can do this game is play lurky and friendly and make ppl think im a town pr, probing where i need to and making sure where i probed reflects in my night mails so that ppl can't accuse me of being superficial, at least easily.

Eiralox · Post Post #49 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:00 am

oh i was still typing...... damn... or what i can do, which is my basic strat now, is act like basic semi-rambling at times obnoxious town eirlalox.... basically meaning i might get more flak, but no one's gonna say " hey wait this isn't how eira usually plays, they're too friendly". so i might also adopt a more mass posty and chaotic mein, which depending on game is sorta my usual town aim, and can track good in mail as "i stir the pot to get info i can share at night". so ill see how it plays out : P

Eiralox · Post Post #50 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:22 am

i'm saying 'i mean' too much

Eiralox · Post Post #51 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:39 am

i hope tsq doesnt call me. might be back later.

Eiralox · Post Post #52 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:00 pm

I'd say elements is more likely PR and Asia more likely Vt for now.... still not sure how i feel about N_M, i sorta forgot they voted Elements. And now im thinking bout like spear wielding axolotls fighting minotaurs. There's a world where i can frame TSQ as PR, in that they do keep things going but imo not in so a chaotic/disinterested fashion as to indicate VT, but rather in a more calm calculated way... sorting in thread, yes, but also needing to form a holistic view for night actions. but then again it might all be VT, so take what i say with a hill of salt.

Eiralox · Post Post #53 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:59 pm

i sorta get why solway can be a pr....

Eiralox · Post Post #54 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:09 pm

In post 492, Firebringer wrote:Naah reread BBT posts and think its town iso, fight with shea was townie.

BBT ur vote is wasted on Shea btw. No way you bring him down Day 1 unless you have the most articulate bulletproof case that convinces everyone its right. Until you bring that forward its gonna be a vanity vote, join me on aisa

lol

Eiralox · Post Post #57 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:50 pm

Eiralox · Post Post #60 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:57 am

rn my strat is 2 vote u but not straight out. ill be out of thread for like 12 hours to see ho votes shift before making an appearance, cos im afraid of deflating elements too fast and spilling it onto a possible early bbt/frogster elim..... all depending on how bella and solway act, to a measure.

my feel of NM is that theyre struggling to form reads.... and im open to poss that nm is latching onto asia/eira in the hope where town.... or nm feels elements is scum. idk, i hope its the latter.

shea/fire need to fight..... but maybe not interfering can make it happn anyway ; /

im postponing any defence of asia for the time being. maybe fire will feel greener on frog here, and maybe if timing is right the wagons can shift elements/asia, adding solway, nchant nm and maybe maybe hpe as town-led mis-ellimables.

idk theres still time i guess .-.-

Eiralox · Post Post #63 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:36 am

that will definitely have efficacy, as mentioned in discord i'll start probing more octopussy to find more fertile fields to brain sow.

i think one hitch with going after folk who TR/trust me is that if i dont fully recipocate in thread but do only message them, then maybe it might seem sus, so an amelioration to this is me probing but not seeking to buddy so much as to gauge, like if i can convince someone i'm null but that arguments are valid sorta thing..... and maybe message at least person that's left field, like someone mafia wouldnt message sorta..... in between. But my plans and thoughts are sometimes way off the mark so meh : P

so far my basic plan with the mail has been to make it as inclusive and townie as possible, meaning i'll have to make it long and basically re-read from page 1, handle posts town would maybe have a second look at again, and from there craft a subtle sub-narrative..... I think N1 i won't make it that good, that clear, cos I'm not so good always at forming D1 reads as town........ alll after a preamble discussing strategy/whatever ofc, but the 'sorting' will be the bulk of the post. idk i guees that was my first impression o what town mail eira would do, the narrative is the tricky bit.... such devices as above can be employed, definitely.

Eiralox · Post Post #65 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:13 pm

for the mail? or miselim?

TSQ, Asia, Fire and maybe Solway feel threatening rn tbh. Fire calling frog/eira along with other leans, Asia voting froge then bbt, Solway seems very suspicious and cna get dangerous if focused imo. TSQ for pretty obvious reasons.

Right now Asia might be the most feasible mail target.... i'll soft-add Grib and HPE for now, open to other options. I'll see what I can do today, the thread maybe needs a little bit more chaos maybe

Eiralox · Post Post #68 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:31 pm

Safest option rn i guess....... with our luck tk targets Asia but anyway >.<

I think my plan of unsure, bad reads N1 eira meshes well with an Asia message maybe, as in, 'you are the only one I can trust.... I hope', some solid-seeming analysis and maybe a layer of desperation, but also a mein of being calm as in 'im treating this like a roving masonry, please subtle suggest who u think i can target N2' kinda thing. In this eventuality me defending Asia, but ineffectually, as in ' i still feel this way but i'm trying to logic it' might pay dividends.

Eiralox · Post Post #69 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:33 pm

In post 67, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hi guys, how are we?

bit nervous tbh, don't know wther to vote u or frog.... guess i can vote u but there's no way im agreeing with what tsq is saying. there's way more posts now so i guess today is the day i try to mass post and subtly try to stir up some shit. later i guess ; /

Eiralox · Post Post #71 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:36 pm

In post 70, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, I don't mind being bussed.

It should be fun!

I hope so ! : / : P

Eiralox · Post Post #76 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:51 pm

ok here's the problem: i put bbt at -2, we prob have 2 votes from Grib and Solway, possibly from NM and Enchant as mentioned. So very risky.... I shoulda voted frogster yesterday and left it there ; /

If i don't, then Asia will def have some sus on me, and the pattern will be: Eira sheeped Asia on Solway and Elements but not Frog and Blue. So far i've been deliberately avoiding Solway to sorta long-run sus them, so idk....

i guess i can throw the vote in there and hope for the best..... maybe vote then start other shit...... eh idk. i need to post today, and like if i don't vote bbt then i feel i'll have to either: double down on elements and build a case, which might look very bad for me if bbt flips.

maybe bbt not claiming vt, if things become bad enough, can shift the wagon last second and give us another day.

Eiralox · Post Post #77 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:52 pm

*if i put

Eiralox · Post Post #78 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:33 pm

i'm just gonna naked vote, leave it a bit and see i guess.....

Eiralox · Post Post #79 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:06 am

In post 715, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Elements

hmmm

Eiralox · Post Post #80 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:13 am

In post 717, Grib wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBT

-1.

ughhhhhh...........................................

should i unvote?

Eiralox · Post Post #81 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:34 am

In post 720, Aisa wrote:UNVOTE:

thank thoth i almost posted that i was hoping for this. luckily i didnt jinx it.

grib not noticing that it's -1 can be used maybe.

Eiralox · Post Post #82 (isolation #31) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:58 am

then again 'scum wouldn't make that mistake' so maybe not, unless like reverse 'false mistake to seem town' but meh. back later, hopefully will post

Eiralox · Post Post #84 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:16 am

that'd be wise.... idk, if we settle on Asia, whether i should make it blatant it's me or sorta try and hide the fact but not effectually, as you mentioned frogster.

i have a lot to catch up on, glad to see bbt wagon has shifted so.... Asia and TSQ off, Grib and Solway on like i dreaded, enchant voted elements and didnt hammer.... so maybe it's best if i park on bbt for a bit, ignore solway, and start posting. later on, depending, i might shift onto someone that's not solway.

basically i feel if i flip early then 'eira voted solway rvs but not later' can be sort used against 'em i guess.

Eiralox · Post Post #85 (isolation #33) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:19 am

or me sheeping asia onto solway is needed rn idk..... later

Eiralox · Post Post #86 (isolation #34) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:19 pm

Ok elements voting asia is good. Breathing room. Imma sleep

Eiralox · Post Post #87 (isolation #35) » Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:04 pm

In post 584, Solway Firth wrote:
In post 230, Aisa wrote:
In post 217, Solway Firth wrote:[...] As for HPE, I scumread her to reasons previously stated. I also don’t like how she voted BBT, and her tone is very off. [...]
What do you dislike about Erynis's vote on BBT? What about its tone is off?
I disliked HPE’s vote on BBT because it was voting him purely for silently hopping on to a wagon in the very early game. I’ve found that votes like that tend to correlate with being scum. I don’t fully remember why I thought HPE’s tone was off, but rereading some of its posts all of them look a bit forced and careful. My general rule for tone scumreads is that if the player’s tone differs significantly for one or two posts in their ISO or if their tone is different this game than in their town games, it’s scummy. HPE’s tone has remained consistent throughout their ISO, so I don’t scumread HPE for their tone. I do still have to check HPE’s past games.

'tone a bit forced and careful'

could solway have found HPE PR here? i don't have a solid grip on it either way, so just noting i guess

Eiralox · Post Post #88 (isolation #36) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:47 am

In post 783, Grib wrote:UNVOTE:

On a reread, I don't really want to kill BBT.

yay!

In post 782, Enchant wrote:Who the hell is Ecnhant

egg in hand

Eiralox · Post Post #89 (isolation #37) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:44 am

ok imma just type up a quick draft thus far as example what im aiming for, power might go out in 20 mins idk didnt check schedule so just wanna dump for if i'm not back 2day.

RN i agree that Asia can achieve the most as target.....
RN it seems the likliest mis-elims are Asia and Solway.

I'm just gonna assume Asia lives for now, maybe i'll make up a few sorta weak but sincere seeming reasons to townread them idk, just enough to keep miselim on table but with enough sentiment to increase rapport..... what I can also do is not defend at all, and if Asia lives say 'i was afraid if i green u 2 much scum might target u'

idk. but with Asia maybe i should just straight out say who i am, and tell them that so far I think i might hide my identity from others unless they conf town or whatever. anyway, imma type a quick one up, by no means gonna be good but i guess an early crap example is better than zilch

Eiralox · Post Post #90 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:00 am

Hey >.<

If you're reading this, you got mail from eira..... i hope you're reading this. I considered not revealing who am i am, all in all a safer bet, but for once i feel pretty solid on a day on read so here we are lol. So i'm a mailman, and a nervous one at that tbh XD So first off, I don't know how much flak i'll get d2 on(if i even live thru tonight lel) but my plan rn is to claim fruit vendor instead of mailman, at least initially. I figure that a vendor claim would be less likely to be nk'ed than a mailman, and i hope my picks are accurate enough that i can sorta becoming a roving masonry connecting town without scum being any the wiser.

So i guess this is where i'll start:

Firstly, i think it's necessary for us to communicate in subtext, i'm still taking time to see how best to achieve this, but for now i think the simplest three things we can do is:

1. If you received my message, meaning we're both alive and no one interfered with me, using the phrase 'somewhat troubled' in any context will confirm this for me.
2. If you think me claiming fruit vendor is a good idea, you can either claim u got fruit(ur discretion) or use the phrase 'I'm positive' in any context
3. If you think i should rather play it straight and claim mailman, the phrase 'weird vibes' will alert me.

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all for now critique plz bai

Eiralox · Post Post #91 (isolation #39) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:29 am

so yeah i want to finish this tomorrow. i think a lot of 'sorting' will depend on who gets flipped, hopefully solway, but it might also make sense for a town eira to have been keeping notes from the get-go(which i didn't, did think it woulda been neat but never got around 2 it). basically i'll pad the preamble out with more 'let's work together on d2 to determine who i should visit n2' and 'if your a town protective don't heal me, rather look for stronger roles' and some other stuff.

idk......... in my 'sorting' i might just act wholly confused, give some solid reasons for why fire town maybe, maybe double-down on bbt/elements scum with iffy, waterish kinda reasons...... and treat everyone else as mystery boxes that confuse and perturb my gentle soul.

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For some reason i've become cripplingly paranoid that enchant is TK and that they're gonna target me N1 XD which probably means they aren't and they won't.

Night : )

Eiralox · Post Post #92 (isolation #40) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:36 am

depending tho..... if a mis-elim goes thru there may be very juicy scum pairings to theory spew on, so a broader assault and manifold pairings might be a better goal..... sort of planting seeds but so many that the hemlock can't be seen for the roses.

Bye XD

Eiralox · Post Post #93 (isolation #41) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:43 am

In post 799, Aisa wrote:

what a saint : 3

Eiralox · Post Post #94 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:51 am

so last spam post if there's any narratives ya'll want inserted into this feel free to suggest. if ya'll want someone to look worse or better in asia's eyes etc.

(I haven't seriously studied the asia/fire mason theory yet tbh, but rn i can say that, while i'm still vt on asia, i def can't rule out a masonry.... i'm starting to wonder if HPE isn;t maybe more likely PR than elements, and I think my earlier enchant VT hunch might've been premature.... i mentioned the undue paranoia but logically rn i have nothing which can read enchant for me one way or another.

N_M is still relatively quiet, I guess the consensus being 'Don't kill N_M yet D1' can be the cause of that, as in 'ok i can just sit this day out and observe', i don't know but i'm still keeping poss. open that they're PR and very relieved that no one is hunting them, coming in for the occasional jape or joke but nothing that really ruffles any hairs.....

Eiralox · Post Post #96 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:02 am

In post 95, Frogsterking wrote:Thank you for posting, Eiralox!

It's almost 4 pm where i live lmao.

Did you want to add another section to your draft where you talk about your reads in depth? I would definitely buy that if I were Town because it looks like you're using the message like a Mason PT.

oh lo yeah that's not near enough the finished product, i just started typing in 14 mins before power went down XD so yeah, more preamble, in depth reads but no too certain ones, and attempts at sorting after hopeful town flip.

this one is gonna be more informal and 'honest'(sincere?) in tone, i think depending on D2, N2 target i'll radically alter my language maybe and not reveal who i am.

me being on Solway elim can be good tbh, sort of 'hey Asia we both f'd up lets fix it' but honestly i think for long-term play it's better i stay on bbt, milk the distancing for all it's worth, and bet on town pushing solway thru maybe.... but with 2 days anything can happen.

this might mean i'll have to lite-defend solway, cos asia might ask 'y didnt vote sol' i say 'thought they were town' 'why didn't you warn me' .................... but im thinking too much again, i'll see how things play out tommorow.

Anyway i drank coffee earlier so not sure i can sleep now anyway ; /

Eiralox · Post Post #102 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:45 pm

i also figured that, they seem considerate

Eiralox · Post Post #103 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:03 am

I think with asia as possible mis_elim and ntk bella maybe a safer pick, not as effective maybe...

If it's bella I might not reveal who I am, as I havent really given the pretense that I trust them.... maybe formalize language a bit more idk. Or I can justgamble and say I felt theyre town after our interactions..... idk how bella/bbt might form up later but rn I see value in having them as ally.

Eiralox · Post Post #107 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:40 am

In post 104, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think TSQ is so locked in his tunnel on me that he isn't considering a world where you and I can be scum.

Which is nice.

very >.<

i just hope solway gets pushed thru tbh. them not having really defended themselves could maybe mean VT lol but frogster has a pretty decent guess in that they're gonna stroll in all cocky-like and claim pr.

anyway, sleep well >.>

In post 106, Frogsterking wrote:I think Shea might be a psychologist.

lol im becoming too paranoid to think anything, i still haven't shook the hunch that TK Enchant is gonna kille me tonight.

IF TSq is psycho then maybe, if we don;t kill N1, it'be safer if i do n1 kill? bbt getting a kill and tsq being on their ass wont be ideal..... but fuck i need to sleep brain fried

sleep/awake well x2

Eiralox · Post Post #108 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:42 am

oh lol misread role, yeah what bullshit am i saying in that case It's better for BBBT to kill lol XD cos if not then TSQ gets the guilty. shows how trogloditic my neurons are rn.

Eiralox · Post Post #109 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:43 am

tsq sorta towning hpe/solway might mean they're also getting pr vibes. eira out

Eiralox · Post Post #110 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:49 am

In post 109, Eiralox wrote:tsq sorta towning hpe/solway might mean they're also getting pr vibes. eira out

wrong, only hpe. mixed encahnt's posts with tsq. zzzzzzzzzz

Eiralox · Post Post #111 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:44 pm

YUp solway claimed vt.hmmmmi reallywant tovote there but idkif entire scumteam should be piling onto onewagon at this point

Eiralox · Post Post #113 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:51 pm

probably, that's why i feel the need........... ugh okay, either i unvote or i vote solway, don't want too play too loose and fast here. maybe i just do it and we kill shea and we're a-ok

Eiralox · Post Post #114 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:07 pm

welp i did it. touch tree and hope one of us don't die tonight i guess..... doc frogster being on bbt is the best heal i'd say.

Eiralox · Post Post #115 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:14 pm

the thing about TSQ NK is likelihood of watcher/whateverelse being on them N1. idk how many folk see them as town dynamo tho

Eiralox · Post Post #117 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 pm

In post 116, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I very likely won't be around for the next 10 hours or so due to work so I'm hoping I don't get run up otherwise I won't be able to respond

i might be off to town for 4-5 hrs.

if there's a chance they're gonna shift to you I'll launch all out attack on Sol maybe, attacking 'why Sol wants to shift to Asia' ie. i get 'town can self pres' but 'doesnt seem Sol is seeking scum as much as just being willing to switch to most conventient wagon' (which is pretty understandable for a vt but a possible avenue fo attack)

With our Luck NM hammers tho XD

Eiralox · Post Post #118 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm

In post 959, Bellaphant wrote:The claim without other reads is scummy, I can hammer?

yes plz

Eiralox · Post Post #119 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:59 pm

ok bACK EARLIER THAN EXCPECTED lol doub;le hammer is good.

SO: i've sorta got a writing contest concurent with this and my piece is due soonish, so it may be that i wont have my mail up soonish, but my aim is to get in at least 1/2 way point so that both of you can give solid critique.....

like i already typed up a bit of a start on Asia-themed one so maybe i think thats best target, but i'm definetely open to BellA, AND I'M INCLUDING HPE, elements, grib and maybe fire as possible going on, or for tonight.............. whatever we decided.

later

Eiralox · Post Post #120 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:18 am

hhmmmm lasdt thought

BBT u earlier said u think maybe vendor, Imma lol so hard if i mail the fruit vendor and go 'call me a fruit vendor'

Eiralox · Post Post #121 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:40 am

In post 981, Aisa wrote:Sorry Solway!

HBD to our resident purple orb of horror!

HBD?

"HBD
Hemoglobin subunit delta is a protein that in humans is encoded by the HBD gene."

* SHRUG *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

""""HBD

1.

The incorrectly acronymized "Happy Birthday"; as opposed to the correct acronyization: HBd.

2.
The acronym of “Has Been Drinking”, used predominantly within emergency medical services in the area surrounding Toronto, Ontario. This term is exclusively used grammatically as if it were an adjective; a euphemism for drunk.""""

"""""""""""""""

It's 1.

I'm so dumb -.0-

thought it was some kinda kode or acormym or idk.

Eiralox · Post Post #124 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:28 am

for mail? Asia is quite sharp, have been on bbt/frogster, and with me sheeping them since page 1, while i feel i've given them reason to feel green on me, there's a good chance me mailing them, even if it's a good mail, might deepen suspicion of 'i've been set up from start'. eh.

Eiralox · Post Post #125 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:31 am

and bella not really being on solway while Aisa was heavily invested might make it easier for me to talk around that slot with Bella

Eiralox · Post Post #127 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:09 am

eh from my side maybe TSQ, Fire or Aisa if we mail Bella?

there can be pr's in enchant/nm but i mean....... yeah. and maybe HPE is a PR, but i think they can maybe maybe still catch enough flak to be misellimable. not elements or grib methinks?

my go-to NK has pretty much been TSQ but i can understand how that can be risky.

Eiralox · Post Post #128 (isolation #62) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:07 am

or maybe rather one of TSQ/Aisa/HPE after all. HPE's reads on frog/bbt are actually more solid than Aisa's imo.

I think TSQ kill removes a lot of in-thred obstacles, but I can see a VT playing exactly like that to draw scum away from pr's maybe.... eh. still a very lucid threat. I can see fire easily taking that position, i don't know i just get a feel they're gonna be way more combative and solvey later on..... so that's why im leaning toward them as well i guess. i'll check up here whenever.

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i'm like 95% certain that Bella is a better mail pick at this point. i think i'm gonna fuck things up if i mail Aisa, at the start i was like yeah ok doable but rn honestly i feel a bit too nervous on what i have in thread to risk it..... and Aisa being on Sol: why would town eira fully trust that? anyway yup.... start new mail from scratch, i think just reveal myself, and try to sort scum based on sol flip.

Eiralox · Post Post #129 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:44 am

In post 126, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Yeah for mail, who are we thinking for the kill?

who do you have in mind @_@

Eiralox · Post Post #130 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:19 am

lol imagine enchant and not_mafia being masons

Eiralox · Post Post #136 (isolation #65) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:22 pm

In post 135, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 128, Eiralox wrote:i'm like 95% certain that Bella is a better mail pick at this point. i think i'm gonna fuck things up if i mail Aisa, at the start i was like yeah ok doable but rn honestly i feel a bit too nervous on what i have in thread to risk it..... and Aisa being on Sol: why would town eira fully trust that? anyway yup.... start new mail from scratch, i think just reveal myself, and try to sort scum based on sol flip.
I think this is best. Are you no longer using the other draft for Aisa?

the same idea'll apply but not opening segemnt, no. i've finished my story, gonna sleep, didn't manage time as well. i'll push to get mail all up here tommorow tho, and i'd like to have ya'll ok it first before i confirm, no point in sending something that confirms entire scum team.

Eiralox · Post Post #138 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:37 pm

ok dayum i'll rush this in the next four hours.

Eiralox · Post Post #139 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:41 pm

power going down in 20 mins, so make that *six hours.

I'm ok with any TK tbh so ya'll's choice on that.

Eiralox · Post Post #141 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:22 pm

had to rush off to town as well aaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhh........ i'm starting now sorry for rushing this

Eiralox · Post Post #143 (isolation #69) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:59 am

In post 142, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I really don't think TSQ is a good kill. Mainly because I think it's difficult for me to survive Day 2.

i fully see how tsq can be problematic, especially if pr have strong tr on them. i think i'm happy with anyone in tsq/hpe/fire/N_M.

I honestly leave it to both of you to decide, i've said why i see tsq is a strong kill and also why it's risky.

im doing typing see what happens aaaaaaaaaaaah

Eiralox · Post Post #145 (isolation #70) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:38 am

4 hours left, my power's going out again in 3 : /. Imma steamroll this then. EDIT:: Power going in 2 1/2 hrs so i can still spam reads

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Preamable(((((Tell me if ya'll think i should post only this without reads}}}}}}}}(((The last sentence reflects post without reads___((_)
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Greetings Bellaphant! I'm Eiralox : P

I'm pretty sure you're town, so here we go.

I'm mailman, and I think the most efficacious use of my role is as a de facto wandering masonry.... so here's hoping it all works out.

Right now in my head i think i'm going to claim fruit vendor, probably only if i come under pressure.... this has the benefit of making me less likely to be targeted by scum, but might also mean folk'll elim me more likely than a mailman.... i think the former benefit outweighs the latter risk.

Anyway, I'm still not too sure on whether imma go thru with it but i'd like to proffer you the chance to claim you've received fruit if you want to, i think long term me stringing the scumteam along with them thinking there's a fruit vendor(and i dropped a hint) instead of considering the reality of a mail person at large XD Anyway, do with that what you will.

The most important thing for me here is to get an idea of who I can trust, which I'm very edgy on even now tbh after what I did to Solway Firth. So i'm still 90% sure Asia is green, right now admittedly im sticking with my gut. I don't think Aisa is the worst person on the Solway train, and as of now they seem to be the mos likely person for me to mail Night 2........... but fuck i know i'm prone to forming shit reads and sticking with 'em so meh, here comes complexity, and hopefully PROFIT

(Oh and if you at any time feel that you're certain enough of a read on someone, and in any way doubt my current reads, please hash it out with me. I'm used to making some pretty stupid plays at times so, like no pressure, but at times i think i need a second conscience cos i don;t always trust mine XD)

So:

1. If u feel i should rather mail someone else than Aisa(*see below), like if you feel they're town enough to add value to the string, just mispell their name while bolding it.

2. If I at any time decide that i'm rather going to mail someone else(My one plan rn is to test the waters and see where it takes me RE: Aisa, whether my gut is right or whether that unquelled voice of eternal suspicion will be proved, i hope not, correct) I'll just bold their names, cos I never do that.

3. If u have a solid hunch/suspicion on someone, but for some reason you're not keen on pushing there, just ask "Eiralox, what do you think about X's recent posts?" or whatever variation of that u wish to choose.

4. If you have received this message, like if one of us didn't get potted or I didn't get interfered with by any prowling courtesans, just bold my name

So far this role has been a clusterfruit cos of a busier rl schedule and me having a long-delayed round robin writing competition running alongside this game, my initial strat was to be a copious note-taker and overall stirrer-of-the-pot. That really didn't pan out D1, but my piece is in and i've got i think a 5 or 7 day reprieve from writing at least so if i make it thru the night i wanna come in guns blazing.

Right now I'm liking scum in Frogsterking/Grib/Not_Mafia/Elements so here's to luck i guess, hope i've made the right call on you and we can manage to make this role actually do something XD

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Plz Judge. critique and spit upon.

Eiralox · Post Post #146 (isolation #71) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:40 am

i'll edit out gramma spoofs just comment on overall tone/efficacy if haz time plz

Eiralox · Post Post #147 (isolation #72) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:50 am

**i think long term i wanna string the scumteam along***

is the one edit i've got.

Eiralox · Post Post #148 (isolation #73) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:26 am

1st Edit IGNORE ABOVE

Spoiler:

Eiralox · Post Post #149 (isolation #74) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:35 am

Yup rn imma post something like this. I say I like Frogsterking/Grib/Elements scum: is this acceptable?

I have 1 1/2 hrs left on puter. probably can make last minute edits on mobile hour b4 start. I'm not yet conforming(edit:confirming : P), feel this must have popular approval. If none of ya'll respond, in the end I might decide to post(maybe with bit more editing) and confirm, and not confirm at all and later play it as "After Solway Elim i was so f'ing nervous that i rather wanted another day to has out my reads instead of risking hit scum with mail N1 and being obvious eira'

idk i'm open to both and can employ.

Eiralox · Post Post #150 (isolation #75) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:38 am

3rd probaby final edit. IGNORE ABOVE

Spoiler:

Ok, power going in half an hour. I'll be able to confirm above message in spoilers as one i want to send before game start i think, on mobile. if i'm not online then due to unforeseen fuck up but ya'll think above message is adequate, feel free to confirm the above text in spoiler as Eira sends to Bella. I'm around.

Eiralox · Post Post #151 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:43 am

EDIT: 6th line from bottom: push toward hpe/bbt/tsq/n_m

better i think

Eiralox · Post Post #152 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:45 am

so i'll post 4th OFFICIAL(pending) edit in 15 minutes then lol...... ugh i'm spamming this chat all they way to pythonesque proportions with dis role

Eiralox · Post Post #153 (isolation #78) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:50 am

OFFICIAL MAIL

Please use text in below spoiler once/if Eiralox's action is locked to mailing Bellaphant.

Spoiler:

Eiralox · Post Post #156 (isolation #79) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:22 am

Greetings Bellaphant! I'm Eiralox @_@

I'm pretty sure you're town after our exchange and your alomst-hammer, so here we go!

I'm mailman, and I think the most efficacious use of my role is as de facto wandering masonry. I hope I don't screw it up but eh life is a river i guess.

Right now in my head i think i'm going to claim fruit vendor, probably only if i come under pressure. I figure this has the benefit of making me less likely to be targeted by scum, and i hope i'm accurate enough to keep my plan on the dl.

Anyway, I'm still not too sure on whether imma go thru with it but i'd like to proffer you the chance to claim you've received fruit if you want to, i think long term my hope is to string scum along with them thinking there's a fruit vendor instead of considering the reality of a mail person at large XD do with this as u please, could be fun!

The most important focus I feel is for me is to get an idea of who I can trust, which I'm very edgy on after what happened on Solway Firth, and basically always. I'm still 90% sure Asia is green, right now admittedly im sticking with my gut. I don't think Aisa is the worst person on the Sol train, and as of now they seem to be the mos likely person for me to mail Night 2........... but fuck i know i'm prone to forming shit reads and sticking with 'em so meh, here comes complexity, and hopefully PROFIT

1. If u feel i should rather mail someone else(see below), like if you feel they're town enough to add value to the string, just bold their name in any message

2. If I at any time decide that i'm rather going to mail someone else(one of my plans rn is to properly test the waters and see where it takes me RE: Aisa, whether my gut is right or whether that unquelled voice of eternal suspicion will be proved, i hope not, correct) I'll just bold their name

3. If u have a solid hunch/suspicion on someone, but for some reason you're not keen on pushing there, just ask "Eiralox, what do you think about X's recent posts?" or whatever variation of that u wish to choose.

4. If you have received this message, like if one of us didn't get potted or I didn't get interfered with by any prowling courtesans, just bold my name in any message

I wanteed to play differently d1frankly but had a busier schedule plus a long-delayed round robin writing competition now in full sway. my initial strat was to be a copious note-taker and overall stirrer-of-the-pot. That really didn't pan out, but my first piece is in and i've got i think a 5 or 7 day reprieve from writing at least so if i make it thru the night i wanna come in guns blazing : p

Right now I'm liking scum in Grib/Elements. I also see the need to push toward hpe/bbt/tsq/frog/n_m, D2 is as good as any a time to actually try and get a read on them for me. please bounce your reads against me if u wanna, i might not always have the best feel for folk but so far i'm a bit lost and quite glad that i've got a chance not to be stuck in my echo chamber all game ^.^

here's to luck and the fates, hope i've made the right call on you and we can manage to make this role actually do something

Eiralox · Post Post #157 (isolation #80) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:29 am

CSF please use #156 for if/when I lock

Eiralox · Post Post #158 (isolation #81) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:46 am

Yolo...... if I fuck up I dine in valhalla.

Eiralox mails Bellaphant (156 text)

Bbt frog feel frre to make emergency edit.ill handle thia role more adeptly if I survive

Eiralox · Post Post #161 (isolation #82) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:30 am

Im not sure if they are pr. But dey sharp. Risky kill imo but can pay dividends. My gut says a good way to be caught at night but meh well see I guess

Eiralox · Post Post #168 (isolation #83) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:46 am

In post 156, Eiralox wrote:Greetings Bellaphant! I'm Eiralox @_@

I'm pretty sure you're town after our exchange and your alomst-hammer, so here we go!

I'm mailman, and I think the most efficacious use of my role is as de facto wandering masonry. I hope I don't screw it up but eh life is a river i guess.

Right now in my head i think i'm going to claim fruit vendor, probably only if i come under pressure. I figure this has the benefit of making me less likely to be targeted by scum, and i hope i'm accurate enough to keep my plan on the dl.

Anyway, I'm still not too sure on whether imma go thru with it but i'd like to proffer you the chance to claim you've received fruit if you want to, i think long term my hope is to string scum along with them thinking there's a fruit vendor instead of considering the reality of a mail person at large XD

The most important focus I feel is for me is to get an idea of who I can trust, which I'm very edgy on after what happened on Solway Firth, and basically always. I'm still 90% sure Asia is green, right now admittedly im sticking with my gut. I don't think Aisa is the worst person on the Sol train, and as of now they seem to be the mos likely person for me to mail Night 2........... but fuck i know i'm prone to forming shit reads and sticking with 'em so meh, here comes complexity, and hopefully PROFIT

1. If u feel i should rather mail someone else(see below), like if you feel they're town enough to add value to the string, just bold their name in any message

2. If I at any time decide that i'm rather going to mail someone else(one of my plans rn is to properly test the waters and see where it takes me RE: Aisa, whether my gut is right or whether that unquelled voice of eternal suspicion will be proved, i hope not, correct) I'll just bold their name

3. If u have a solid hunch/suspicion on someone, but for some reason you're not keen on pushing there, just ask "Eiralox, what do you think about X's recent posts?" or whatever variation of that u wish to choose.

4. If you have received this message, like if one of us didn't get potted or I didn't get interfered with by any prowling courtesans, just bold my name in any message

I wanteed to play differently d1frankly but had a busier schedule plus a long-delayed round robin writing competition now in full sway. my initial strat was to be a copious note-taker and overall stirrer-of-the-pot. That really didn't pan out, but my first piece is in and i've got i think a 5 or 7 day reprieve from writing at least so if i make it thru the night i wanna come in guns blazing : p

Right now I'm liking scum in Grib/Elements. I also see the need to push toward hpe/bbt/tsq/frog/n_m, D2 is as good as any a time to actually try and get a read on them for me. please bounce your reads against me if u wanna, i might not always have the best feel for folk but so far i'm a bit lost and quite glad that i've got a chance not to be stuck in my echo chamber all game ^.^

here's to luck and the fates, hope i've made the right call on you and we can manage to make this role actually do something

Official with frogs edit if not too late

Eiralox · Post Post #169 (isolation #84) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:49 am

In post 167, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 156, Eiralox wrote:The most important focus I feel is for me is to get an idea of who I can trust, which I'm very edgy on after what happened on Solway Firth, and basically always. I'm still 90% sure Asia is green, right now admittedly im sticking with my gut. I don't think Aisa is the worst person on the Sol train, and as of now they seem to be the mos likely person for me to mail Night 2........... but fuck i know i'm prone to forming shit reads and sticking with 'em so meh, here comes complexity, and hopefully PROFIT
I don't think there is any time to make additions, but if there is for whatever reason, I would expand on who else you TR and who you think is the susp one on the Solway train.

Still no powrr for 13 ,mih mobile shitty. Can explain itas not 100 percent trusting bella for scum fodder. Final list sorta hints at my tr. Not ideal kessage tbh but meh its done

Eiralox · Post Post #172 (isolation #85) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:53 am

Greetings Bellaphant! I'm Eiralox @_@

I'm pretty sure you're town after our exchange and your alomst-hammer, so here we go!

I'm mailman, and I think the most efficacious use of my role is as de facto wandering masonry. I hope I don't screw it up but eh life is a river i guess.

Right now in my head i think i'm going to claim fruit vendor, probably only if i come under pressure. I figure this has the benefit of making me less likely to be targeted by scum, and i hope i'm accurate enough to keep my plan on the dl.

Anyway, I'm still not too sure on whether imma go thru with it but i'd like to proffer you the chance to claim you've received fruit if you want to, i think long term my hope is to string scum along with them thinking there's a fruit vendor instead of considering the reality of a mail person at large XD

The most important focus I feel is for me is to get an idea of who I can trust, which I'm very edgy on after what happened on Solway Firth, and basically always. I'm still 90% sure Asia is green, right now admittedly im sticking with my gut. I don't think Aisa is the worst person on the Sol train, and as of now they seem to be the mos likely person for me to mail Night 2........... but fuck i know i'm prone to forming shit reads and sticking with 'em so meh, here comes complexity, and hopefully PROFIT

1. If u feel i should rather mail someone else(see below), like if you feel they're town enough to add value to the string, just bold their name in any message

2. If I at any time decide that i'm rather going to mail someone else(one of my plans rn is to properly test the waters and see where it takes me RE: Aisa, whether my gut is right or whether that unquelled voice of eternal suspicion will be proved, i hope not, correct) I'll just bold their name

3. If u have a solid hunch/suspicion on someone, but for some reason you're not keen on pushing there, just ask "Eiralox, what do you think about X's recent posts?" or whatever variation of that u wish to choose.

4. If you have received this message, like if one of us didn't get potted or I didn't get interfered with by any prowling courtesans, just bold my name in any message

Right now I'm liking scum in Grib/Elements. I also see the need to push toward hpe/bbt/tsq/frog/n_m, D2 is as good as any a time to actually try and get a read on them for me. please bounce your reads against me if u wanna, i might not always have the best feel for folk but so far i'm a bit lost and quite glad that i've got a chance not to be stuck in my echo chamber all game ^.^

here's to luck and the fates, hope i've made the right call on you and we can manage to make this role actually do something[/quote]

Please use this one if possible CSF

Eiralox · Post Post #173 (isolation #86) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:55 am

Ok I got ur eduts frog hope in time. Power in five.

Eiralox · Post Post #174 (isolation #87) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:58 am

Broken quote tag at end fml xd

Sheesh now im done

Eiralox · Post Post #175 (isolation #88) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:04 am

Eiralox mails Bella #172 without quote tag

Final lock for visibility I guess. Sorry CSF : D

Eiralox · Post Post #177 (isolation #89) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:09 am

No problem >.<

Eiralox · Post Post #178 (isolation #90) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:12 am

now im nervous cos those were pretty good edits frog XD I cringe at taht one paragraph but anyway

good luck ya'll.

Eiralox · Post Post #182 (isolation #91) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:50 pm

TK in Enchant/Elements/Bella is where i'm at.

only after u mentioned it did i go 'yeah D2 Bella might have the undercurrent of sorrow expected after a mis-kill'

Eiralox · Post Post #183 (isolation #92) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:51 pm

Elements might have went for BBT so idk, adding cos meh.

Eiralox · Post Post #184 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:56 pm

In post 1039, Elements wrote:
In post 1022, Bellaphant wrote: People who are actually trying to read me, like eir and honestly bbt, are reading me right.
Have you considered that's because they know your alignment?

I am town reading bbt.
Please do tell why

Pointing the tsq nk at him is like level 0 of a read.
No one is scum reading BBT just because of the night kill and saying that is deliberately disingenuous.
The read is 3 fold. Terrible reaction to TSQ's test (and you cannot argue it wasn't bad because it was), the night kills, and wagonomics.
At least half of the wagon on bbt was town at all points. With N_M and enchant in the game it was effectively 6 to lim. Me, Grib, Aisa, and Eiralox were all on the E-1 wagon with 2 confirmed town. The scum team is not Grib, Eiralox, Aisa. I think there was a max of 1 scum on that wagon. At the end of the day there were at least 4 town willing to vote BBT. Scum push that. That's easy momentum to push a mis-lim.

I also think there were at least 2 scum on the SF wagon at the end.

WAY TOO SHARP.

I'm feeling elements is going to be our greatest in-thread threat.

Eiralox · Post Post #188 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:24 am

N_M vig would definitely claim mason lol XD I think....

I mean honestly i can't discount it, N_M has pinged me as PR for quite a while, and being in a masonry might explain why they aren't acting as i sorta suspect they would as VT.................................. the 'not ruffling feathers'
I need to step back from MAfia CHat for a bit and focus on appearing town tbh. I'll be back in a substantive manner later.

Eiralox · Post Post #191 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:48 am

Im honestly having the idea of TK, 2-3 masons, TP........ MACHO can be there to fool scum and town into thinking there's a TPR, i'm not so sure tbh.

maybe there's still an investigative but they're a bunyip or neapolitan or whatever.... maybe not bunyip, but weaker invest if Town has like a Bodyguard or just straight up Doc.
Maybe no invests and TPR with watcher/tracker/whatever. Maybe m,aybe maybe. at start i felt there were masons cos, idk tbh, gut? maybe cos makes sense to fool with mailman like that? but beyond that me and setup guessing have a very short and very... maybe non-existent relationship lol so..........

OK> EIRA LAST"S post here for a while dammit! XD

Eiralox · Post Post #196 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:19 am

In post 509, Enchant wrote:I will nightkill Elements.

In post 1018, Not_Mafia wrote:I was the last mason

Yup I'm a belieber now these aren't lies

Eiralox · Post Post #202 (isolation #97) » Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:44 am

i'm pretty chill don't mind taking a few votes

Eiralox · Post Post #211 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:15 am

Possibility:

1. I can do what I did N1 with Bella, make a towny attempt at ingratiation with someone.

2. A very simple message, eg.

Mail Elements: Not_Mafia is a Mafia Goon

Mail Firebringer: Frogsterking is a Mafia Neapolitan

Mail Not_Mafia: Scumteam: Grib/Bellaphant/Frogsterking

Or anything else to any1 else.

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1 has a proven track record, has it's risks but if i do it diligently might be used to ensure a safe endgame.

2 is untested, but direct: Can it create needed confusion for our continued survival? If we don't manage to make a town vote where we want to, at least we can use it to sow a reasonable amount of doubt in their minds regarding alignments and setup. They'll maybe be more likely to assume such a message comes from scum maybe, so gross misdirecting double bluffs can also come into play.
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Rn Bella knows what I am, and is expecting me to mail Aisa. But I can fully 360 on that and pretend I did while messing with ppl who have no idea there's a mailman, with single messages that'll make them doubt or push out in certain directions.
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I don't mind doing either, if we think 1 is good and we find an early target, i can start drafting the 'long post' which was my original intention... which might make who ia am very obvious, and might make inferring the scumteam easier for recipient, but if couched right, can gain us allies.

2 is pretty much 'launch and see if it strikes, but the recipient has no idea where the message comes from and only us and bella can enlighten them. The benefit to this i'll say is it's easier for us to craft a group message and select a group target, probably someone like Firebringer who we might not kill and who probably won't be tk'd.

Variations of X is Scum X or X/Y/Z are scum are pretty much how simple I think options 2 ca be kept.
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I'm open to anything

Eiralox · Post Post #214 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:30 am

not -1 fuck thot i was going mad didnt count trsuted you blueblood, even warned frog in Disc XD

-2

Eiralox · Post Post #215 (isolation #100) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:31 am

oh lol im so dumb u meant -2 is -1 with enchant X D XD XD

errrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh

Eiralox · Post Post #216 (isolation #101) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:32 am

I literally thought Frog was at -1 and that I'd counted wrong.

Eiralox · Post Post #217 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:38 am

In post 213, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I nearly unvoted, glad I didn't as I had missed Enchant voting elsewhere.

Enchant openly stated they want to sheep N_M though, so might still very well be minus one.

Eiralox · Post Post #219 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:59 am

ah ok lol, my gamne memory is so shit that i didnt know enchant had even been on frog, so i did partly confuse myself anyway >.<

Eiralox · Post Post #221 (isolation #104) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:32 pm

they not on discord so idk. After Aisa has called 'frog and bbt scum equity' I don't thin me coming in to defend frog might work all that well? I mean three days left and worst case there's still doc claim left, i don't think this is a game where enchant'll hammer without a claim tbh...........

If you think I should just straight come out and defend frog, tell me. Aisa would be a good elim, agree with frog, not easy, agree with you.

so maybe that leaves us with N_M, Elements, Fire. Grib might be hard. Enchant also(And I want to Nk them : P ) bela i think is better as ally?

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All in all to answer question: no bloody idea.

Eiralox · Post Post #223 (isolation #105) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:41 pm

That was my plan(see Bella mail) but when i started backreading i could come up with nada. both have been less invested (grib VLA) D2 and honestly they have more sketchy behavior D2 to focus on imo.

So worst comes to worst I can jam myself full of coffee and start striking out in many directions finally pushing for grib/elements scum. i dont really have a case, but maybe i can fake it enough, maybe be a bit more aggressive, to sorta still seem town but create enough chaos to deflate frogster and enable other elims.
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*sigh*

I guess I have to do something otherwise, if enough ppl start drinking Aisa's pills, trouble gets worse. Imma see thru the day.

Eiralox · Post Post #225 (isolation #106) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:45 pm

The final ace in the hole is me going "yup Aisa scum theyve been playing with me i dont trust them on this" (Very risky lol) and maybe then we've got enough momentum to push a mis-elim thru, with luck we heal right and hit vig, it's safer number-wise but our team would then be pretty obvious .

*p-edit: Hmmmm lol I have town cred, but what I'm dubious about is having enough of a case to seem credible at all. I can fluff it up etc., only plan I got so have to bear thru i guess.

Eiralox · Post Post #226 (isolation #107) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:47 pm

i think one problem is the enchant/not_mafia team-up, they trust each other and steadily town is starting to trust them as well

Eiralox · Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:56 pm

yeah thats vere my thoughts vere this morning. ill have to step very carefully tho cos aisa is very sharp re; bbt/frogster.

i think grib might be another option at this point. i'm hanging back, probably vont vote today depending

Eiralox · Post Post #235 (isolation #109) » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:49 pm

yeah Elements NK is ok, but they might be VT still... i'll go with majority, I still want to kill Enchant tho >.<

Eiralox · Post Post #236 (isolation #110) » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:11 pm

In post 1180, Elements wrote:I like Bella for scum too

so yeah i'm still not sure they have a guilty on u bbt? maybe just going with sharp analysis(theirs has been on point), and trusting tsq/grib?

i think they feel you're scum so much that they might have revealed the guilty to get town ahead, but they can be patient i guess.... just feel they'da push you more maybe?

Eiralox · Post Post #240 (isolation #111) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:42 pm

I'm not seeing traction anywhere else. chances are ve'll be hit today, guess ill try to makes sure itz' BBT? don't see this town letting a No Exe slip thru today lol.

: * (

Eiralox · Post Post #241 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:53 pm

i'm probably not gonna vote bbt today but if it comes betveen frog and bbt i kinda have to?

bbt i think ur more tr'd than frog tbh and might more easily endgame, but frog is pr and still has claim and u earlier said if betveen 2 u ve go u(pretty obvious) so vhile i dread it ill try to be here if my vote needs to save frog.

Eiralox · Post Post #245 (isolation #113) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:26 pm

i'm thinking 3 masons, i tk and then either a protective or investigative, probably latter?

I still think Enchant is vig tbh, like 80% certain. But bella can be idk...... if frog dies(vhich ill try 2 preventm im off to town) keeping a bella vig alive can help bbt/eira imo, but vithout heals the risk is gonna great to keep TK alive anyway....

ill prob be back in 4-6 hrs.

Fire is sussing aisa/bella and sorta trusting u so thats good.

everyone hates frog so idk ve'll see i guess : /

enchant kill, imo, can make N_M mis-elim easier for us if vig doesnt deal vith them.

bye, good luck u 2 >.<

Eiralox · Post Post #247 (isolation #114) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:47 am

Hotter water maybe yeah

Eiralox · Post Post #249 (isolation #115) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:19 am

I feel Frogster had a point about mis-eliiming Aisa.

D1 vas best time for that, if i didnt stick vith aisa sheeping they might have been elimmed, honestly think (maybe they vt/protective) that they're scume enemy number one, i maybe shoulda pushed for their NK harder N1.....

but maybes dont build time machines so meh : /

Eiralox · Post Post #250 (isolation #116) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:37 am

well it was fun bbt. i hope the doctor recovers -.-

probably were screwed lol

Eiralox · Post Post #251 (isolation #117) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:28 am

maybe not. have a great time ; )

Eiralox · Post Post #254 (isolation #118) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:49 am

it was a gamble XD enchant now scares me more than D1 : P

well idk luck is definitely a factor here yeah

Eiralox · Post Post #255 (isolation #119) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:52 am

In post 253, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think Aisa needs killing as well, that seems to be an incredibly hard mislim to achieve.

We misplayed killing TSQ N1

yeah even if aisa vt, good kill. im still scared of enchant, but if aisa can get off frog's back maybe improved game state.

TS..... yeah maybe they coulda been spammy enough to make d2 easier. we did remove mason factor, and brutally honest i didnt carry my weight in thread D2. if i were more creative and active maybe i woulda been able to muddy waters.

so aisa/ecnhant is where im at, hope frogsterking has ideas : P

Eiralox · Post Post #257 (isolation #120) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:56 am

Eiralox · Post Post #259 (isolation #121) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:45 pm

In post 258, Frogsterking wrote:
Doc Eiralox

Is Enchant the only vig candidate besides Bella?

Not_Mafia also I guess. Don't think it's Aisa.

Eiralox · Post Post #260 (isolation #122) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:56 pm

I'm on board with an Aisa kill, makes sense day-wise.

willing to kill enchant pretty much cos theyve felt too dangerous to me.

would love to absorb your thoughts if any : 3

Eiralox · Post Post #261 (isolation #123) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:20 pm

one factor in favor aisa kill: eira in bella's eye is mailing eira. alive, unmailed aisa... eira mailed dead town? but why?

one factor in favor of eira heal: eira's fire post can be pretty obvious setup after bbt flip

factors in favor of frogster heal: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh! Bella vig maybe the greatest threat?

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idk uuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh XD
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i'll await input, lord of frogs

Eiralox · Post Post #262 (isolation #124) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:27 pm

So if I'm healed and we think Bella is vig we kill bella? meaning if there's no other kill and bella aint vig, its probably enchant who targeted me and we found TK
{HMMMM.... depending on other roles, factor in TK being odd-night}
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That's safer maybe, sorting one vig candidate i guess. problem comes in if maybe enchant or other tk targets frogster anyway.

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I still like Aisa for NK but with TK still pretty much unknown it would be safer to hunt there i guess.

Eiralox · Post Post #263 (isolation #125) » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:33 pm

Bella is only one who knows I'm mailman so that kill might enable me to do other fakeclaims, but it also removes the one ally my role gained me, if not exactly the team. bella might have second thoughts on u frogster after bbt flip but i really think Aisa is gonna stick with frogster scum and heavily push it, grib and enchant also seem onboard with the poss that both main wagons were scum.

removing Aisa removes the heart of the case in my opinion, removing enchant is removing a wild card that is imo very townread.
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So my three picks are Aisa, Bella, Enchant then. Firebringer can be good as well, they probs VT but that 'i saw my role pm' at start could be act and dey actually something efficacious. But distant fourth.

Eiralox · Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:17 pm

ok i almost posted this then didnt but ill do so anyway:

is it possible for the setup to be like: 2 masons, 2 masons, 1 town killing?

idk grib saying fire and elements are masons, and N_M and Enchant maybe sorta being weird about each other, makes it possible? no invests, no protectives, and even after N1 we are still dealing with a mason threat?

I know next to nothing on setup balance but eh i guess i would really like to know in this case @_@

Eiralox · Post Post #268 (isolation #127) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:21 pm

In post 265, Frogsterking wrote:It's possble I guess. Why exactly do you suspect it?
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I calculated 2 Endgames we can win:

One starts if you message Enchant, and the other starts if you message Fire. In both, your message needs to work tonight and my fakeclaim needs to be believed on either D3 or D4.

So you suggest I mail rather than kill?

Telling fire I was wrong on them, and telling enchant... I was wrong on fire? Or something else in mind>?

And not killing enables you to claim you saved someone N2, if i'm correct?

n00b statement but i figured i can't mail if i kill : /

back later

Eiralox · Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:15 pm

In post 270, Frogsterking wrote:I was pretty high when I wrote that earlier.

I think one idea was to message Enchant and night kill fire.

In post 271, Frogsterking wrote:And go with your Mason + Mason theory maybe as an explanation for why you mailed Enchant

ok that was my idea re: this just kill fire to solve issue. would still see benefit in other kills, but fire death can be... actually helpful in-thread

didnt know i can mail and kill. sooooo...........

ok if we go with this idk what to say to enchant lol. brain's turgid of late. egh we'll see.

"Hello enchant, im eira mailman, actually feel/hope you're a mason, after bbt flip i'm actually not so sure about fire, sorta makes sense to me but going back can't see patterns and fire might be town after all. I'd say I still trust bella and aisa, beyond that no idea where scum is. bbt/fire still makes sense to me but on re-read it's hard to frame fire as scum. Etc."

Enchant was open to both wagons being scum so don;t know what if anything i can say bout u?

well.... ill be back in a few hours. the message wont be long or spectacular, again not something town eira would do but honestly i'm burning out a bit here, definetely my last game in a long while.

Eiralox · Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:06 pm

I'm liking the Fire kill for the chaos it can cause.

I'm meh on mailing enchant... i understand what we can achieve but my feel is enchant has been sus on me since D1, and me mailing them might ignite a big eira/frogster hunt, hereas me not mailing is just enchant's word against mine after fire flipped.

I can mail enchant, but honestly for the short reveal post grib might be the better pick. already trust me, think im vt, they sus fire, me telling them

'yeah i might have been wrong on fire' and 'no idea who scum is, still feel aisa, you town i'm feeling and hoping, pretty certain on bella still, even if they fit nicely with bbt. honestly feeling good on elements after end D2, i'm not sure on enchant... really keeping poss. open that bbt/enchant were in cahoots. means i'm looking for last remaining scum in enchant/frogsterking/not_mafia, with fire as a maybe maybe and bella is ditstant poss. Aisa did feel a bit weird end D2 to me but compared to general vibe thruout pretty much my one townlock at this point'

but

'idea of enchant mason makes sense maybe... Ie: the 2 roles i think were meant to mesh with mine are dead, but there's enough cross chatter for me to feel you're a mason and that i can trust you.'

honestly figure grib is more pliable in the end, enchant has been giving me the evil eye, even if they're not sure i'm scum idk how safe it is to tell them i'm a mailman.

Eiralox · Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:17 pm

In post 270, Frogsterking wrote:I was pretty high when I wrote that earlier.

I think one idea was to message Enchant and night kill fire.

Or lol I can't kill and mail right? ugh. anyway.

Eiralox · Post Post #275 (isolation #131) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:40 am

Eiralox attempts to kill Firebringer

just for now

Eiralox · Post Post #277 (isolation #132) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:25 am

ok have it on fire frogster. don't know if i'll be around, change if needed

Eiralox · Post Post #278 (isolation #133) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:40 am

Frogsterking heals Eiralox

Eiralox kills Firebringer

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Final from me, u can change frogsterking(like if u wanna heal urself)

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Eiralox · Post Post #283 (isolation #134) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:14 am

yeh grib got ghost mail : P

Eiralox · Post Post #284 (isolation #135) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:16 am

my brain fried a few times today confusing itself. eh.

Eiralox · Post Post #288 (isolation #136) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:20 pm

: P

yeah I couldn't mail grib. Bella thinks I mailed Aisa AFAIK. one minor reason i was aiming 2 kill bella or aisa But that's all moot. Fire had high prob of VT but I agree with you town looks different, it's a wacky kill and we can play with it. elements calling bella/aisa but not eira is just the cherry on top imho. let's see what enchant will do.

Pre-edit:

why is no one voting me! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Death seemed so sweet.

So we can assume: TK is odd night OR TK targeted me, possibly proving TK is enchant.

If it's the latter you made a megabrain play healing me insteada u. Really thought poss TK would target u instead me probably(if they could have)

If it's odd night Vig there might be compensation in other roles idk.

i'm off to even bigger town for dubious reasons so later lol.

i hate that we might actually win this XD now i gotta dance.

Eiralox · Post Post #289 (isolation #137) » Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:59 am

In post 1364, Enchant wrote:
In post 1273, Enchant wrote:Eiralox saying team is "Firebringer/BBT" but votes Firebringer (WHO HAD 0 VOTES) instead of BBT. At deadline closening.

Very suspicious.

In post 1277, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1273, Enchant wrote:Eiralox saying team is "Firebringer/BBT" but votes Firebringer (WHO HAD 0 VOTES) instead of BBT. At deadline closening.

Very suspicious.
Read and stop lazy shading, elf
Diedidiieididididiidixididijdkexidieixifnmdlkqgwvdndk

so uh,,,,,,,

u think enchant is town killing?

Eiralox · Post Post #291 (isolation #138) » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:24 pm

i can claim joat

Eiralox · Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:45 pm

I'm a rat in a corner.

Eiralox · Post Post #305 (isolation #140) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:14 am

In post 302, Frogsterking wrote:The main thread cleared 10,000 views this morning. I think this village reads too much, that's why their reads are so good.

a lot of those are mine but yeh i caught onto that like d2.

Eiralox · Post Post #314 (isolation #141) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:18 am

omf ill read later aaah walls : P

Eiralox · Post Post #315 (isolation #142) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:22 am

ok scanned everything except wall. im gonna hang back for a bit more. honestly... we can leave bella alive, heal, and i claim i mailed in killed OR I calim something else. i'll let things mature. don 't think i can fight rn

Eiralox · Post Post #318 (isolation #143) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:36 am

well ok, if enchant or elements arent protective, I kill bella. solves mailman thing maybe, options other than straight claim are bulletproof joat (mailman etc.) or mason 2-shot mailman in N_M hood or whatever. straight claim and say i mailed fire/u very much on table but hedge bag fragmagick works sometimes

Eiralox · Post Post #319 (isolation #144) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:38 am

enchant/elements/n_M being watcher or tracker hitch in thing

Eiralox · Post Post #321 (isolation #145) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:02 am

idk tbh i feel that town is so lost now that they cant scumread u anymore that they might cling onto any competent-seeming flotsam.

in the end i think if u make cases that seem solid enough town might roll with it and might not sus u 2 much.

eh.

like i think there's trust restored in you that pushing hard is okm but...................... i'm not thinky rn. everything you type reads a bit scummy to me so i'm not the best cheerleader here XD

ur game analyses abd 'elements was mean to me but i see need to move past' does come off as towny maybe so yeah. doc frog revealed going hard for reads cos theyre gonna die N3 is a good image to form so all in all, you do you. i'm feeling any advice i have to give at this point is gonna be half-assed at best cos frankly i'm a bit disengaged rn.

Eiralox · Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:09 am

yeah im not fully trusting enchant vt claim tbh. but might be 3 macho masons/complex vig then us so meh maybe.

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:30 am

so yeah i skimmed this morning and saw that and went wtf, then skimmed above strat thingies.

now i see brain pipe man is skwatiing in thred : P

yeah i think all the shiny lights migght attracft town to grib buffet.

basiucally im going:

"not voting nm, between grib and n_m grib, no fuvking idea bout grib, conflicted, but they weird to me theri pushes today, and n_m i very sure is good.
so meh."
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then if we can kill bella and no wathcher wathces the watchpeople I:

Mailed:

1. Bella N1 Fire N2 Frog N3
2. Bella N1 Not_Mafia n2 ? N3

or whataver if i claim straight maildog

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:31 am

didnt go thru posts but have to, maybe agree some points u raise but not all kinda thing, or probe grib but meh meh nah

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:32 am

*posts used in ur grib case

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:33 am

or that';s a cigar. some reason thought it was pipe.... are pipes sexier than cigars?

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:37 am

In post 334, Eiralox wrote:didnt go thru posts but have to, maybe agree some points u raise but not all kinda thing, or probe grib but meh meh nah

*maybe agree with parts of grib case in thred, lazy talking

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:48 am

omfw ive backseated so much that ive forgotten bout 792

that's an excellent post to use as grib shade : P

Eiralox · Post Post #339 (isolation #153) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:10 am

waaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh ok imma defend n_M i guess, makes sense to me. laterish.

Eiralox · Post Post #340 (isolation #154) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:46 am

ok your case has definite flesh. rn it's a gamble cos folk have little time, but there's def a lot of grib shade in there to work with.

I might not vote grib after all. we'll see. might say i believe N_M is mason and bad vote tho, cos i can spin that

Eiralox · Post Post #344 (isolation #155) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:38 am

uh no

Eiralox · Post Post #345 (isolation #156) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:39 am

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:02 am

nah it's pretty clear yer drunkigh lol >.< im not scottish but im a bit french i guess

have fun

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:08 am

nah my thread knowledge is too shit atm. i've said ive been disconnected and i mean it, me hunting scum rn is me being lacklustre at it.

w survive, i claim mailed bella/fire/bella bella/n_m/bella omething. dont know if can post mail pvts in thred. cos if town asks.... will need n2/n3 backup?

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:09 am

i'm actually gonna get higher and wathc some season 1 eric andre.back vheneveraz

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:19 am

In post 353, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 351, Eiralox wrote:nah my thread knowledge is too shit atm. i've said ive been disconnected and i mean it, me hunting scum rn is me being lacklustre at it.

w survive, i claim mailed bella/fire/bella bella/n_m/bella omething. dont know if can post mail pvts in thred. cos if town asks.... will need n2/n3 backup?
I get it, it will be less work for you overall to post tye analytical shit now though because you and I can both reference it later, and if what you post is bad it will just make you more believable and more likely to end game as scum.

yeah ill see, maybe, maybe not.

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:02 pm

not healing?

we can do fast night i guess but i doubt its gonna happen, and i'm sorta over mafia so meh. if u feel there's a distinct advantage?

and who do i mail?

me just going bella/fire/bella might mitigate risk of bella vigging me or u anyway depending on risk factor.

but if u feel a letter i worth more than a heal now, we can do.... i'll try br here whenever.

bella is a must rn cos theyre complex, no use in keeping alive.

only problem is elements/aira/grib they're like a villager piranha triad and its gonna take heavy counter casing to even try and mis-elim imo. later.

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 pm

In post 357, Eiralox wrote:
me just going bella/fire/bella might mitigate risk of bella vigging me or u anyway depending on risk factor.

?????????/

me going bella/fire/bella might mean i dont have to mail and u can heal if bella decides kill a frog or an eira.

so,
yh.

BUT

if enchant/? is surprise protective/roleblocker then frog killing and eira mailing can mesh, ie: town rb more likely to block unclaimed eira than doc frog, and if bella is portected, they still get eira mail.

scenarios.
in my mind theres stilll a decent chance bella kills me, less so on u maybe but enchant did raise the idea.
anyway.

journey.

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:17 pm

In post 358, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 357, Eiralox wrote:we can do fast night i guess but i doubt its gonna happen, and i'm sorta over mafia so meh. if u feel there's a distinct advantage?

and who do i mail?
IDK I think it's okay to be creative at this point and I think the letter might offer more benefit than the heal tonight because you did a good job with the one to Bella

yeah ok ill sleep on it feel free to post thoughts. i did words above. bee

creative is ok me convincing another town im town. but will bella shoot grib to confirm? or decide eira mail has low enough utility to risk kill on? maybe bella will do grib cos less risk if they goon/vt for town?

brain off

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:19 pm

In post 360, Frogsterking wrote:I guess actually...

If we don't kill Bella, that might imply the remaining scum are goons.

and it does strengthen your claim: scum know there's doc, so didnt shoot either frog/bella, too risky.

im all for a bella shot, they can kill us, but rn honestly i've so little investment that the final calls yours. bai. maybe tmrw i discord

Eiralox · Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:20 pm

In post 363, Frogsterking wrote:Killing a VT might imply that scum are in the remaining VTs and trying to frame a clueless PR claim. Especially an Aisa kill.

I don't believe Bella will wifom her shot because I think she is a team player who will do what claimed

yeh i have no idea i believe anything

Eiralox · Post Post #369 (isolation #166) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:07 pm

we can kill aisa

Eiralox · Post Post #385 (isolation #167) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:08 pm

ok i skimmed most of it, opened spoiler but made sure not to read numbers after i read spoiler text. swift answers but i'll be back later, i havent thot in detail but i need to drop a response now
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Aisa has been feeling iffy on me since D2.
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At this point Bella or Aisa yeah. Bella for obvious, Aisa for making elements/grib elism easier.
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I love all these plans at first glance. the joat seems groovy, as does straight tfn. complex tfn... yeah maybe. might suggest scum have pr's instead of goons for balance.
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i like #381. my plan was to joat something like mailman, tracker, cop. mason finder might be op? maybe not.... very interesting, i like N_M n2 result. making me a lazy joat lol...
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i like frame post if i claim lfn, possible problem(low probability maybe) is town rb or town protective saving bella(rb maybe?)
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bella kill still makes most sense, aisa is my second pick, so there at least i feel more sure
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these posts are all very helpful and i can see them working. ill try to be around later to be more thinky.
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at this point i don't mind you making my decisions for me, if you really think we can risk bella not killing me i can mail. ill give claims some thought.
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Oh last one: yeah my idea before this was to straight say i mailed u N3, if it comes to claim, which others will maybe be baying for. So if mail, Bella/N_M/Frog maybe, with me saying 'figured scum wouldve shot outside doc/vig, so confirmed myself to doc so we can hav town triad'... calls of frog/eira scum might follow
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hmmmm what? ..... ... oh yeah, last thing, i havent aked CSf but idk if town can demand i paste my mail for each night in-thread. if that's possible then TFN is safer maybe.
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ok for now i go, so lemme ask: if i go something like TFN, and we frame some1 via mail, who do we frame to whom, and how?

Eiralox · Post Post #386 (isolation #168) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:11 pm

In post 384, Frogsterking wrote:Can be read whenever. Also obviously if you have your own candidate moves I'm down to add those to the list.

Spoiler:
D4 with the non-wifomy kill Bella.

VC 3.FINAL

With 8 players

6
,
it takes 5

4
to make a decision. Day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-11-05 15:00:00).

VC
Not_Mafia [5]: Aisa, Grib, Elements, Enchant,
Bellaphant

Grib [1]: Frogsterking

Not voting [2]:
Not_Mafia
, Eiralox

ok read it b4 imma go sunday lazy.

yeah.....

my mind rn is either: D4 Aisa/elements/grib band together and pressure enchant/eira/frog so much that scum pops a brain noodle

or

D4 aiselegri tear each other apart in paranoia. 2 is good. if i case and enchant tunnels grib and u act as arbitor after vig death we can create chaos.

Eiralox · Post Post #390 (isolation #169) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:31 pm

Oh I love me saying 'jack' being a joat claim btw. i've used jack in other games but in that spesific post with m thiking elem/bella maybe masons, might work lol

anyway imma bounce. hopefully tommorow im feeling up to this more. bella killing me is still real on my mind, but i get what u saying, they might trust me. i wouldn't, mailman would maybe be low utility in my mind and i'd maybe sort that possible bias.... but a complex vig being unsure can safely target a VT claim, if they lied theyre ded, so all good and maybe bella shooting grib is 100%?

meh.

sorry i'm not too keen on this rn but what youre saying here really meshes well anyway. bai

ugh network so shitty yesterday as well
*p-edit:

RE: #389: I was talking bout: If i claim LFN, u suggested we use mail to frame someone?

bye x4 imma chill, later today here me

Eiralox · Post Post #392 (isolation #170) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:16 pm

swift thoughts:
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JOAT
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me claiming mason finder N2 on N_M might be wrong... i didn't really defend them at start. maybe N2 traffic analyst? problem comes with u having specced a traffivc analyst, town might find that sus.
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so i wanna full reread try thread and play wiki, need descriptor i think, 'lazy' might seem balanced?
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N1: Friendly Neigbour Bella N2: Traffic Analyst N_M N3: Mail ? N4: Tracker
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If doc heals me/themself:
N1: Mailman Bella N2: Traffic Analyst N_M N3: Fruit Vendor/Friendly Neigbour Frogsterking N4: Tracker
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Preliminary, basic, ill wiki later.
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If i town mai I can mail enchant, better pick imo cos aisa, grib and elements are hyenas at this point out for blood. all that gives me pause is enchant wanting bella to sort frogster, it's gonna be hard to talk around possibility of scum doc frogster maybe. if i bullshit enough. meh.

z

Eiralox · Post Post #394 (isolation #171) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:25 pm

o i havent read your preference spoiler yet. ill give input on that post later at least

Eiralox · Post Post #395 (isolation #172) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:26 pm

In post 393, Frogsterking wrote:This is that link to the tier list I was talking about, I've been finding it helpful to browse roles:

viewtopic.php?p=13500924#p13500924

cool cool ill check

Eiralox · Post Post #397 (isolation #173) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:29 pm

ugh if i claim joat, for the level of trust bella evinced toward me, then the mailman claim being N1 makes hella sense. but i still like the joat claim so rolling with FN can work, let mail do thing N3. neighbourizer in joat 2 op in this setup.

Eiralox · Post Post #428 (isolation #174) » Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:50 am

i'm sorry frog i have some shit in my life to deal with rn. this is really bad from me at a very inopportune time game wise but ultimately, from my side, it's for the best.
besides life pressures, my heart just isn't into fooling people. eh. your joat ideas are solid(finder/cop n2).

idk what else to say, i'm disapointed but that's a common theme when it comes to me lol.

i had fun with you and bbt and everyone else. i hope you kick some ass lol >.<

(Also i have a light migraine starting to build rn aaaagh. even if i weren't dropping u i wuld still be shit at whatever else rn)

well....

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Have fun! @_@