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might fakeclaim 1-shot bulletproof fruit vendor if under pressure before claiming mailman, asking mail receivers to act as if i'm a vendor (BP claim subject to scrutiny, not adding to night messages maybe,,,, depending on later and heals well see,,,,, ) i think i can spin the fakeclaim as: scum less likely to nk vendor than mailman, and depending on mail target efficacy, ill havetown folk backing me up after iu reveal it's fake,
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Basically today I'm going to sheep enchant, Not_Mafia and Asia, if safe.
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tmrw in thread I think i'll push toward frogster and firebringer.............. not hard but little piranha nudges just so im seen doing soemthing,
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some reason i keep expecting here to be masons. eh. luck bunnies-
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I don't even remember whether I have any completed forum scum games btw..... if I have they are from 2016. and off-site amateurish and probably 2 at most, at a stretch. probably one or none. So honestly...... if ya'll see me acting in a dumb manner, freely point it out. I might be the weakest link here page-wise, so depending on levels of sus I can do NK's so that Blue can claim VT if wished, and so that Frogster can safely parade as Town Doc.-
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lol i doubt with any veracity. so far i only got a hunch that Enchant is VT. And then there honestly might be a pr between elements and Asia? maybe elements? idk why i guess it's just a hunch, both have defended themselves and for some reason my brain went there when I read your kwestion so... noting it.
it happens a lot, brain farts, so meh don't know whether I trust myself on these sometimes ; /
but as i'm re-reading things I'll..... try and see if I can conceive of how i'd go about catching a pr..... desperation, recalcitrance, these are pointers i'd guess, but some p,layers are good at keeping cool or craftins masks so meh......... generalities.-
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damn i had big post soft-attacking grib all posted then realized i'd fucked up cos it was all wrong/........ the status quo voted for grib and had a light tiff so a lot of my arguments in there were moot and idda been a pretty veiless launch, instead of the subtle proddding my dubious mind figured idda be.
Now i'm just listenin' to music and trying to figure out where i'll start my train's ;launch.... i want to have a good few posts prodding into various places while also sorta softening some sus on bbt by making a more sincere and less acerbic reply to Blue, maybe fluffing it up with going thru Asia iso, so sorta treating bbt like town/null while hard-defending Asia with fax logix.
BBt wether u meant my first post was bad or not, i think it was fishy af, and Solway picked up on my tonality... cos that post i edited a lot too seem like it was typed faster, some parts at least, and i really was afraid ppl would pick up on that jank... only Solway sorta mentioned it, only u spoke the tru trus XD I'm a little nervous about my tone but honestly i'm closer now, just gonna see where imma enter the cave....-
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if grib is a good candidate for mail then me friendly-prodding them and asking them camaraderly questions can be a good strat, cos then they'll feel like i have good reason to trust them above the hoi polloi... ppl might ask why I'm not mailing Asia, so maybe I can say that my Asia read remains solid, i'll message them N2 after we both have a bettter grip on the game{(if Asia doesnt flip by then ofc, which might be good cos if Asia green then ppl might feel greener on my pocket idk )}, but I really think you Grib/other is prob town(along with asia i soft greened grib, my greatest fear with my role is that it can townclear way too many ppl if i were to flip at the wrong moment..... which with tk very likely, and with humans being humans, is 0-100% probable at this point. so at least if it's grib n1 and asia n2 then my flip doesnt give any more info than my first post, i hope, where i greened 'em both.
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so like if i flip then all those alive whove been mailed can claim town...... counters:
1. After n1/n2 mail messages become more rambling, incoherent, formal and ultimately un-eiraloxy, pushing absurd teams, evincing stilted and clearly manipulative language, and not being long at all, while scum have access to better, more eiraloxy ones that subtly push certain teams, a malicous attempt of eira to poison bbt/frogster's mind with malicious lies. Meaning: If i flip then some recipient will claim theyve got mail, but what they'll have wont mesh with tone of what Grib?/Asia?/bbt/frogster has, {idk to extent these message can quoted in-thread ill read up}, so they'll be the odd ones out maybe looking more scummy....... Overall i don't like this plan so much. risky..... maybe......
2. Well timed NK's. If we kill enough ppl who've received mail while also making sure the mail achieves something, then once/if i flip there'll be fewer ppl who shout from the rooftops: "Eira mailed me, im conf town!" I honestly like this plan better, i see it being safe. This might mean that holistically our mail/nk targets might need to focus on possible pr's.... which might mean a shift away from grib/asia depending on feels.
Idk whether im overthinking this but honestly i also don't know whether i have the grit/dastardly cunning to survive to endgame, so i feel this is a possible hitch in the road we might need to factor in. what i can do this game is play lurky and friendly and make ppl think im a town pr, probing where i need to and making sure where i probed reflects in my night mails so that ppl can't accuse me of being superficial, at least easily.-
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oh i was still typing...... damn... or what i can do, which is my basic strat now, is act like basic semi-rambling at times obnoxious town eirlalox.... basically meaning i might get more flak, but no one's gonna say " hey wait this isn't how eira usually plays, they're too friendly". so i might also adopt a more mass posty and chaotic mein, which depending on game is sorta my usual town aim, and can track good in mail as "i stir the pot to get info i can share at night". so ill see how it plays out : P-
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I'd say elements is more likely PR and Asia more likely Vt for now.... still not sure how i feel about N_M, i sorta forgot they voted Elements. And now im thinking bout like spear wielding axolotls fighting minotaurs. There's a world where i can frame TSQ as PR, in that they do keep things going but imo not in so a chaotic/disinterested fashion as to indicate VT, but rather in a more calm calculated way... sorting in thread, yes, but also needing to form a holistic view for night actions. but then again it might all be VT, so take what i say with a hill of salt.-
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In post 492, Firebringer wrote:Naah reread BBT posts and think its town iso, fight with shea was townie.
BBT ur vote is wasted on Shea btw. No way you bring him down Day 1 unless you have the most articulate bulletproof case that convinces everyone its right. Until you bring that forward its gonna be a vanity vote, join me on aisa
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rn my strat is 2 vote u but not straight out. ill be out of thread for like 12 hours to see ho votes shift before making an appearance, cos im afraid of deflating elements too fast and spilling it onto a possible early bbt/frogster elim..... all depending on how bella and solway act, to a measure.
my feel of NM is that theyre struggling to form reads.... and im open to poss that nm is latching onto asia/eira in the hope where town.... or nm feels elements is scum. idk, i hope its the latter.
shea/fire need to fight..... but maybe not interfering can make it happn anyway ; /
im postponing any defence of asia for the time being. maybe fire will feel greener on frog here, and maybe if timing is right the wagons can shift elements/asia, adding solway, nchant nm and maybe maybe hpe as town-led mis-ellimables.
idk theres still time i guess .-.--
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that will definitely have efficacy, as mentioned in discord i'll start probing more octopussy to find more fertile fields to brain sow.
i think one hitch with going after folk who TR/trust me is that if i dont fully recipocate in thread but do only message them, then maybe it might seem sus, so an amelioration to this is me probing but not seeking to buddy so much as to gauge, like if i can convince someone i'm null but that arguments are valid sorta thing..... and maybe message at least person that's left field, like someone mafia wouldnt message sorta..... in between. But my plans and thoughts are sometimes way off the mark so meh : P
so far my basic plan with the mail has been to make it as inclusive and townie as possible, meaning i'll have to make it long and basically re-read from page 1, handle posts town would maybe have a second look at again, and from there craft a subtle sub-narrative..... I think N1 i won't make it that good, that clear, cos I'm not so good always at forming D1 reads as town........ alll after a preamble discussing strategy/whatever ofc, but the 'sorting' will be the bulk of the post. idk i guees that was my first impression o what town mail eira would do, the narrative is the tricky bit.... such devices as above can be employed, definitely.-
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for the mail? or miselim?
TSQ, Asia, Fire and maybe Solway feel threatening rn tbh. Fire calling frog/eira along with other leans, Asia voting froge then bbt, Solway seems very suspicious and cna get dangerous if focused imo. TSQ for pretty obvious reasons.
Right now Asia might be the most feasible mail target.... i'll soft-add Grib and HPE for now, open to other options. I'll see what I can do today, the thread maybe needs a little bit more chaos maybe-
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Safest option rn i guess....... with our luck tk targets Asia but anyway >.<
I think my plan of unsure, bad reads N1 eira meshes well with an Asia message maybe, as in, 'you are the only one I can trust.... I hope', some solid-seeming analysis and maybe a layer of desperation, but also a mein of being calm as in 'im treating this like a roving masonry, please subtle suggest who u think i can target N2' kinda thing. In this eventuality me defending Asia, but ineffectually, as in ' i still feel this way but i'm trying to logic it' might pay dividends.-
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bit nervous tbh, don't know wther to vote u or frog.... guess i can vote u but there's no way im agreeing with what tsq is saying. there's way more posts now so i guess today is the day i try to mass post and subtly try to stir up some shit. later i guess ; /In post 67, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hi guys, how are we?-
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I hope so ! : / : P
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ok here's the problem: i put bbt at -2, we prob have 2 votes from Grib and Solway, possibly from NM and Enchant as mentioned. So very risky.... I shoulda voted frogster yesterday and left it there ; /
If i don't, then Asia will def have some sus on me, and the pattern will be: Eira sheeped Asia on Solway and Elements but not Frog and Blue. So far i've been deliberately avoiding Solway to sorta long-run sus them, so idk....
i guess i can throw the vote in there and hope for the best..... maybe vote then start other shit...... eh idk. i need to post today, and like if i don't vote bbt then i feel i'll have to either: double down on elements and build a case, which might look very bad for me if bbt flips.
maybe bbt not claiming vt, if things become bad enough, can shift the wagon last second and give us another day.-
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hmmm-
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-1.
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thank thoth i almost posted that i was hoping for this. luckily i didnt jinx it.
grib not noticing that it's -1 can be used maybe.-
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that'd be wise.... idk, if we settle on Asia, whether i should make it blatant it's me or sorta try and hide the fact but not effectually, as you mentioned frogster.
i have a lot to catch up on, glad to see bbt wagon has shifted so.... Asia and TSQ off, Grib and Solway on like i dreaded, enchant voted elements and didnt hammer.... so maybe it's best if i park on bbt for a bit, ignore solway, and start posting. later on, depending, i might shift onto someone that's not solway.
basically i feel if i flip early then 'eira voted solway rvs but not later' can be sort used against 'em i guess.-
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In post 584, Solway Firth wrote:
I disliked HPE’s vote on BBT because it was voting him purely for silently hopping on to a wagon in the very early game. I’ve found that votes like that tend to correlate with being scum. I don’t fully remember why I thought HPE’s tone was off, but rereading some of its posts all of them look a bit forced and careful. My general rule for tone scumreads is that if the player’s tone differs significantly for one or two posts in their ISO or if their tone is different this game than in their town games, it’s scummy. HPE’s tone has remained consistent throughout their ISO, so I don’t scumread HPE for their tone. I do still have to check HPE’s past games.In post 230, Aisa wrote:
What do you dislike about Erynis's vote on BBT? What about its tone is off?In post 217, Solway Firth wrote:[...] As for HPE, I scumread her to reasons previously stated. I also don’t like how she voted BBT, and her tone is very off. [...]
'tone a bit forced and careful'
could solway have found HPE PR here? i don't have a solid grip on it either way, so just noting i guess-
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ok imma just type up a quick draft thus far as example what im aiming for, power might go out in 20 mins idk didnt check schedule so just wanna dump for if i'm not back 2day.
RN i agree that Asia can achieve the most as target.....
RN it seems the likliest mis-elims are Asia and Solway.
I'm just gonna assume Asia lives for now, maybe i'll make up a few sorta weak but sincere seeming reasons to townread them idk, just enough to keep miselim on table but with enough sentiment to increase rapport..... what I can also do is not defend at all, and if Asia lives say 'i was afraid if i green u 2 much scum might target u'
idk. but with Asia maybe i should just straight out say who i am, and tell them that so far I think i might hide my identity from others unless they conf town or whatever. anyway, imma type a quick one up, by no means gonna be good but i guess an early crap example is better than zilch-
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Hey >.<
If you're reading this, you got mail from eira..... i hope you're reading this. I considered not revealing who am i am, all in all a safer bet, but for once i feel pretty solid on a day on read so here we are lol. So i'm a mailman, and a nervous one at that tbh XD So first off, I don't know how much flak i'll get d2 on(if i even live thru tonight lel) but my plan rn is to claim fruit vendor instead of mailman, at least initially. I figure that a vendor claim would be less likely to be nk'ed than a mailman, and i hope my picks are accurate enough that i can sorta becoming a roving masonry connecting town without scum being any the wiser.
So i guess this is where i'll start:
Firstly, i think it's necessary for us to communicate in subtext, i'm still taking time to see how best to achieve this, but for now i think the simplest three things we can do is:
1. If you received my message, meaning we're both alive and no one interfered with me, using the phrase 'somewhat troubled' in any context will confirm this for me.
2. If you think me claiming fruit vendor is a good idea, you can either claim u got fruit(ur discretion) or use the phrase 'I'm positive' in any context
3. If you think i should rather play it straight and claim mailman, the phrase 'weird vibes' will alert me.
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so yeah i want to finish this tomorrow. i think a lot of 'sorting' will depend on who gets flipped, hopefully solway, but it might also make sense for a town eira to have been keeping notes from the get-go(which i didn't, did think it woulda been neat but never got around 2 it). basically i'll pad the preamble out with more 'let's work together on d2 to determine who i should visit n2' and 'if your a town protective don't heal me, rather look for stronger roles' and some other stuff.
idk......... in my 'sorting' i might just act wholly confused, give some solid reasons for why fire town maybe, maybe double-down on bbt/elements scum with iffy, waterish kinda reasons...... and treat everyone else as mystery boxes that confuse and perturb my gentle soul.
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For some reason i've become cripplingly paranoid that enchant is TK and that they're gonna target me N1 XD which probably means they aren't and they won't.
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so last spam post if there's any narratives ya'll want inserted into this feel free to suggest. if ya'll want someone to look worse or better in asia's eyes etc.
(I haven't seriously studied the asia/fire mason theory yet tbh, but rn i can say that, while i'm still vt on asia, i def can't rule out a masonry.... i'm starting to wonder if HPE isn;t maybe more likely PR than elements, and I think my earlier enchant VT hunch might've been premature.... i mentioned the undue paranoia but logically rn i have nothing which can read enchant for me one way or another.
N_M is still relatively quiet, I guess the consensus being 'Don't kill N_M yet D1' can be the cause of that, as in 'ok i can just sit this day out and observe', i don't know but i'm still keeping poss. open that they're PR and very relieved that no one is hunting them, coming in for the occasional jape or joke but nothing that really ruffles any hairs.....-
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oh lo yeah that's not near enough the finished product, i just started typing in 14 mins before power went down XD so yeah, more preamble, in depth reads but no too certain ones, and attempts at sorting after hopeful town flip.In post 95, Frogsterking wrote:Thank you for posting, Eiralox!
It's almost 4 pm where i live lmao.
Did you want to add another section to your draft where you talk about your reads in depth? I would definitely buy that if I were Town because it looks like you're using the message like a Mason PT.
this one is gonna be more informal and 'honest'(sincere?) in tone, i think depending on D2, N2 target i'll radically alter my language maybe and not reveal who i am.
me being on Solway elim can be good tbh, sort of 'hey Asia we both f'd up lets fix it' but honestly i think for long-term play it's better i stay on bbt, milk the distancing for all it's worth, and bet on town pushing solway thru maybe.... but with 2 days anything can happen.
this might mean i'll have to lite-defend solway, cos asia might ask 'y didnt vote sol' i say 'thought they were town' 'why didn't you warn me' .................... but im thinking too much again, i'll see how things play out tommorow.
Anyway i drank coffee earlier so not sure i can sleep now anyway ; /-
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I think with asia as possible mis_elim and ntk bella maybe a safer pick, not as effective maybe...
If it's bella I might not reveal who I am, as I havent really given the pretense that I trust them.... maybe formalize language a bit more idk. Or I can justgamble and say I felt theyre town after our interactions..... idk how bella/bbt might form up later but rn I see value in having them as ally.-
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In post 104, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think TSQ is so locked in his tunnel on me that he isn't considering a world where you and I can be scum.
Which is nice.
very >.<
i just hope solway gets pushed thru tbh. them not having really defended themselves could maybe mean VT lol but frogster has a pretty decent guess in that they're gonna stroll in all cocky-like and claim pr.
anyway, sleep well >.>
lol im becoming too paranoid to think anything, i still haven't shook the hunch that TK Enchant is gonna kille me tonight.In post 106, Frogsterking wrote:I think Shea might be a psychologist.
IF TSq is psycho then maybe, if we don;t kill N1, it'be safer if i do n1 kill? bbt getting a kill and tsq being on their ass wont be ideal..... but fuck i need to sleep brain fried
sleep/awake well x2-
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wrong, only hpe. mixed encahnt's posts with tsq. zzzzzzzzzzIn post 109, Eiralox wrote:tsq sorta towning hpe/solway might mean they're also getting pr vibes. eira out-
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i might be off to town for 4-5 hrs.In post 116, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I very likely won't be around for the next 10 hours or so due to work so I'm hoping I don't get run up otherwise I won't be able to respond
if there's a chance they're gonna shift to you I'll launch all out attack on Sol maybe, attacking 'why Sol wants to shift to Asia' ie. i get 'town can self pres' but 'doesnt seem Sol is seeking scum as much as just being willing to switch to most conventient wagon' (which is pretty understandable for a vt but a possible avenue fo attack)
With our Luck NM hammers tho XD-
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yes plzIn post 959, Bellaphant wrote:The claim without other reads is scummy, I can hammer?-
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ok bACK EARLIER THAN EXCPECTED lol doub;le hammer is good.
SO: i've sorta got a writing contest concurent with this and my piece is due soonish, so it may be that i wont have my mail up soonish, but my aim is to get in at least 1/2 way point so that both of you can give solid critique.....
like i already typed up a bit of a start on Asia-themed one so maybe i think thats best target, but i'm definetely open to BellA, AND I'M INCLUDING HPE, elements, grib and maybe fire as possible going on, or for tonight.............. whatever we decided.
later-
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HBD?
"HBD
Hemoglobin subunit delta is a protein that in humans is encoded by the HBD gene."
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""""HBD
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The incorrectly acronymized "Happy Birthday"; as opposed to the correct acronyization: HBd.
2.
The acronym of “Has Been Drinking”, used predominantly within emergency medical services in the area surrounding Toronto, Ontario. This term is exclusively used grammatically as if it were an adjective; a euphemism for drunk.""""
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It's 1.
I'm so dumb -.0-
thought it was some kinda kode or acormym or idk.-
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