Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[mutantdevle]

Backup role cop is also a PR...

[Luca Blight]

I can go along with a Jay lynch.

VOTE: Jay

[JaydragonKing]

Dino: jmo might be a PR
Jay: Ok, let's lynch him then or at least force a claim so that Mafia can shoot him.

Reminder: TPRs are Vig+JK, so if jmo is a JK he dies and Svum gain that ability. If he is Vig then the JK is guaranteed to protect him so Mafia are not blocked AND Vig doesn't shoot. PERFECT PLAN from a Town PoV.

Who's up for a Jay lynch? I don't want to be dividing the wagons even further, but if I have 2-3 supporters there I'd definitely switch to it and make it the primary push of the day.

That's misrepresentation and slander of the Elsa Jay name, Almost. I just happen to have jmo in the current bottom five of people who are scummy. I'm not blindly following the thought process of you or Dino and being a useless sheep. You should be happy.

Also seeing Luca Instantly joined it without thought. Very nice.

[Luca Blight]

The 'thought' behind you wanting jmo lynched is no better than my 'thought' behind wanting you lynched.

I don't necessarily agree that you were trying to draw out a pr (although if anyone here would do that as scum, I guess you'd be the one), I'd just be happy with your lynch regardless as I don't think you offer much to the game, which isn't going to change as the game progresses.

[JaydragonKing]

I think Jay is scum for the following reasons-

I have a Large Domino's Pizza ready for my breakfast when I wake up. I gotta go to the store for Soda or something though. Walking is gonna be a pain with the possibility of Snow. Maybe I'll just drink water instead. But then the pizza won't have that extra feeling. It needs a Soda or something. Maybe fruit punch? Maybe milk? No no no, not right. Needs to be soda. Soda Pop. Pop. Pop Pop. Pop goes the weasel.

Luca the scum leader.

Dino the prison warden. Bah duh ba ba buhhhhhh. I'm loving it.

Because he's been posting nonsense and actually tried to call me scum leader earlier.

Being honest, I would have voted too when I checked the page and Luca said L-2 thinking "yeah, that's a good idea." To put him at L-1.

He openly admitted to wanting to quickhammer for the "lols".

Dino is suicidal in his want to help town, and trust me when I say this, he's telling the truth about his goal. Honestly the time I won against him was because I just let him kill all opposition and the town broke because they literally had him do all the work, making everyone think he was trying to be the scum town leader.

You guys are giving Dino enough opposition in which I nearly garuntee he'll HAVE to be killed by Mafia. I know for a fact I'm not voting for Dino when he's more likely to get himself killed anyway.

I haven't given much since after my failed attempt of starting the Mutant Lynch on false pretenses from a faulty memory,

so I'll take the next hour or two to see who has gotten progressively more scummy in my opinion since my Lynch List and give you an update.

he openly brags about previous scum experience and placated us by saying he would give an updated readslist but hasn't done so.

- The case Luca and Co should have made.

Seriously, if you guys are going for the fact that I'm not contributing while ignoring all the possible ways you could frame me as scum, you REALLY aren't trying to get value out of my Lynch. You just want me to go quietly and say "he didn't do anything" later on.

If I'm as nullscum as your making me out to be, clearly I'm the prime candidate for the vig instead of the Lynch, since that's appearantly how we're doing this for now. Trying to Lynch someone who has been stated "Lynch-Bait" from multiple sources is a horrible idea. And also one that gives no information to town anyway, since appearantly none of you can source me with any partners.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Vig, please kill jmo.

Dino, at the very start of the game, says you are not allowed to scumread me and mutant for standard scumtells. That's literally what he's doing right now.

#hypocrisy
My lynch pool is {dino, A50, anen}.

[Mathdino]

the fuck

i'm townreading you so

also the jmo-vig idea is still a very bad idea

[Luca Blight]

@Jay

I thought the vig plan was to run someone up to L-1 and then have that player vigged?

I don't see your point with the 'self-case' - Yeah, I could fill up a page pointing out all the irrelevant nonsense you've posted, but what would be the point? Everyone can see how you've been playing this game; I don't need to highlight it.

I like to think as Town you'd show a bit more willing to scumhunt, but given your reputation I'm not sure; you're spinning the wheel in voting jmo and I'm doing the same with you.

[Mathdino]

1054 is pretty convincing
VOTE: Jay

also are you guys dense
the fact that aneninen has been the top wagon for days on end now with literally no one picking up the bait almost ensures that he's scum

we're at the point where we need to double-deadline-lynch

i'm good with Jay-Aneninen

[jmo16mla]

I'm back. woo. Ive been busy IRL. lets see what I can do.

[jmo16mla]

Vig, please kill jmo.

Dino, at the very start of the game, says you are not allowed to scumread me and mutant for standard scumtells. That's literally what he's doing right now.

#hypocrisy
My lynch pool is {dino, A50, anen}.

I would disagree with this shit.

[JaydragonKing]

I found that town repeating and emphasizing the points for the person they think are scum helps people make an educated decision, Luca. Not just saying "Lynch this dude".

And alrighty then. Dino's perfectly found a scum. Great! And jmo will do shit, hopefully.

VOTE: Aneninen

[jmo16mla]

Jay-Aneninen

I'm going to look at these guys.

[jmo16mla]

Jmo

65 - Wants to get me to L-1 before I entered the game. I want to explain why this pinged me - it's nothing to do with victimisation; I would genuinely be saying the same if it was someone else he voted. It's because wagoning a player who hasnt entered the game is inherently pointless - RVS wagons are to create info, but what info can be created by wagoning someone who isn't even present? It's picking an easy target, and the way he says

'let's get this to L-1

' obviously based on nothing makes it look as though he's trying to look proactive/aggressive, but why not pick a player already in the thread to do this to? Why not wagon Mutant, instead of questioning Jay's read on him? His motivations between wanting to wagon someone for info and wanting to defend someone for lack of basis to the suspicion against them seem to conflict here.

85 - Switches to Creature, despite the fact I still haven't even entered the thread. His wagoning of me was pointless, and his plan of getting me to L-1 doesn't seem genuine. Again it seems like he's picking on an easy target here to look proactive.

96 - Apparent happiness to a vote against him, which feels forced. It's a serious vote by NSG, and the natural townie reaction would be to question it and maybe try to ascertain if NSG's suspicion is coming from a genuine place. His faux-happiness at being voted seems to be saying

'look at me, I don't care if I'm voted

' - it serves no other purpose.

100 - Math then joins in the voting and suddenly jmo's happiness is replaced by ':/' which I would interpet as disappointment? Why question Math's vote but not NSG's?

110 - Back to his positivity at being voted - you can see how this appears forced.

He then defended himself a bit and then gradually disappeared.

I have Jmo as a scum-lean. There's no need for Math to comment on this as I'm already aware he disagrees with both my jmo read and my ISO'ing.

You were already voting math, while making a

great

case on me, why didnt you vote me there?

[Luca Blight]

I found that town repeating and emphasizing the points for the person they think are scum helps people make an educated decision, Luca. Not just saying "Lynch this dude".

So why does this apply to me and not to you?

Like, you're doing the exact thing you're accusing me of.

[northsidegal]

also are you guys dense
the fact that aneninen has been the top wagon for days on end now with literally no one picking up the bait almost ensures that he's scum

what makes you frame it as "nobody picking up the bait" when it seems equally plausible to me that scum could be complacent with that being the default end-of-day wagon?

thought i had reading most recent pages. one second.

[Luca Blight]

"Lynch this dude"

VOTE: Luca Blight

Seems fine to me now, so this will be where I want the Lynch to happen for day 1.

We have a 1/4 chance of hitting scum AND a 1/4 chance of hitting a PR. Its the same probability. Let fate take the wheel, Dino.

VOTE: Jmo

And alrighty then. Dino's perfectly found a scum. Great! And jmo will do shit, hopefully.

VOTE: Aneninen

[northsidegal]

@math can you psot a votecount?

or @mod, i guess.

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: Jaydragonking

Nice post there.

[jmo16mla]

@jmo if you do decide to magically start contributing then please address my question I asked you a while ago

ill look into this

[northsidegal]

i think 1054 is pretty towny and that a jay wagon right now wouldn't really be based on anything solid. like, i agree that he has a point – as far as i know, people have just said that he hasn't contributed much rather than that he's done anything more specifically scummy or that he's done anything that town jay

wouldn't

be doing.

i also think his point about scum being more interesting than town was genuine and a reason for his relative lack of activity.

[Mathdino]

Votecount 1.4

jmo16mla(3)

~ northsidegal(49), Creature(80), Gamma Emerald(168)

JaydragonKing(3)

~ Luca Blight(157), Mathdino(215), jmo16mla(53)

mutantdevle(2)

~ Aneninen(41), Pinturicchio(48)

Aneninen(2)

~ Almost50(51), JaydragonKing(80)

Mathdino(1)

~ TheGoldenParadox(38)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ mutantdevle(71)


Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-03-13 13:20:00)

[Mathdino]

NSG wtf are you doing with your vote

[northsidegal]

eh, not a huge fan of the jmo wagon but i don't think it's scum driven. everyone's voting, which is interesting.

this is also interesting:

mutantdevle(2)

~ Aneninen(41), Pinturicchio(48)

pedit – just haven't moved it since rvs.

[Mathdino]

also are you guys dense
the fact that aneninen has been the top wagon for days on end now with literally no one picking up the bait almost ensures that he's scum

what makes you frame it as "nobody picking up the bait" when it seems equally plausible to me that scum could be complacent with that being the default end-of-day wagon?

thought i had reading most recent pages. one second.

not sure what you're suggesting
there are multiple lynch candidates who have avoided the aneninen wagon when they easily could've jumped on to force it to be the default end-of-day wagon
scum should've been sheeping this long ago

i think 1054 is pretty towny and that a jay wagon right now wouldn't really be based on anything solid. like, i agree that he has a point – as far as i know, people have just said that he hasn't contributed much rather than that he's done anything more specifically scummy or that he's done anything that town jay

wouldn't

be doing.

i also think his point about scum being more interesting than town was genuine and a reason for his relative lack of activity.

i hate you for being right

NSG do you just not have scumreads

VOTE: Aneninen

like i need 2 fucking wagons that town can agree on and we can't even reach half of a lynch for any single player
gamma was the only one that passed that threshold and that was ridiculous

wtf are we doing