Open 717: C9++ [GAME OVER:TOWN WINS]

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Finally. I thank Golden Paradox for the help. I just finished reading the game thread eight hours ago, but there are new posts. I'll post some game-related content within twelve hours. Sorry everyone. Lo siento.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

By the way, I just finished reading everything, but I'm going for dinner now. (6:30 pm here)

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I intend to rank everyone from most scummy to least scummy but it's really hard to analyze the game on a phone. I'm not even sure who's who so I'll do it once I get to my laptop at home later tonight.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

It's already ten and my parents still isn't here to fetch me home. I'm doing it tomorrow (about 10 hours since I'm going to sleep. I don't live in the United States. Also, I don't know if I could actually post immediately after I wake up. I have other priorities like having a bath, doing my homework, eating my meals, handling my moods.)

Anyway, unless Kop has a good reason for not posting for so long, there is my scumread.

VOTE: Kop

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Good night, even though it's just morning for most of you.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

you sound the same so i treat you the same

if it means a better response im all for it though

I think sesq is town for their previous post

I'm struggling to have a read on anyone. Care to tell me how you reached that conclusion?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Ok Nyeo, what was your intention for voting Generic Hydra?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: myloninja

He did not talk since his first post. He may be scum trying to not get many attention.

My post faded away in that spam.
Can we vote myloninja please?

And this post?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

This game is a wreck. How are we even supposed to continue from here.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Myloninja13(4)

~ Gamma Emerald(24), LaserGuy(7), Kop(2), Judge Joseph Dredd(4)

Gamma Emerald(3)

~ Hoopla(8), UnaBombaH(4), Sesq(7)

Kop(2)

~ Fredrick A Campbell(9), Pinturicchio(11)

Judge Joseph Dredd(2)

~ UglyDuck(9), Myloninja13(5)

UglyDuck(1)

~ Ok Nyeo(26)

Ok Nyeo(1)

~ Generic Hydra(70)

[Fredrick A Campbell]

you sound the same so i treat you the same

if it means a better response im all for it though

I think sesq is town for their previous post

I'm struggling to have a read on anyone. Care to tell me how you reached that conclusion?

Mostly tone I guess
Nice to see you playing seriously btw

Actually, it's not that I didn't take my past games seriously. It's more like I got bored of waiting. Now I don't spend 100% of my time waiting for posts unless I've got absolutely nothing to do like when I posted this out of boredom and a feeling that there is no way to continue from here after reading all of the thread (I was at my aunt's house and my parents were at a friend's wedding party passing the time watching TV with my aunts and sister and I got bored rather quickly. I waited until 11 pm at my aunt's house.)

[Fredrick A Campbell]

No actually, I’m not. I did my reaction test, I got my results.
Honestly rn, Nyeo is an info lynch for me.
It confirms (at least for me), you and Duck as possible partners, and it helps me figure out people’s alignments.
Please explain why you think Gamma and Nyeo are town before I assume you’re their scumbuddies.
-Kor

Wait you're scumreading me now? I'd ask you what changed but it doesn't really matter because you're IC and don't have to justify yourself, I just feel blindsided.

I’d like to Calirify something here on behalf of my other head, right now gamma is a slight town read but the actions of nyeo (if nyeo ends up being scum) suggests possible scum team, but tbh I don’t exactly see we to eye with kor atm on reads, I honestly think very little has happened this game but I think nyeo is an ok possible lynch.
-n33dl3

I shouldn't be an English teacher over hear but I think by Calirify you mean clarify. Anyway, the following posts assumes that by Calirify you mean clarify.

While I do agree that it suggests a possible scum team, I do think it's important to note there are at least two other players who have plainly stated why they don't think you are right about Nyeo being scum. What makes the other players less likely than Gamma Emerald to be part of the scum team that they aren't also suspects if Nyeo turns out to be scum?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

No actually, I’m not. I did my reaction test, I got my results.
Honestly rn, Nyeo is an info lynch for me.
It confirms (at least for me), you and Duck as possible partners, and it helps me figure out people’s alignments.
Please explain why you think Gamma and Nyeo are town before I assume you’re their scumbuddies.
-Kor

Wait you're scumreading me now? I'd ask you what changed but it doesn't really matter because you're IC and don't have to justify yourself, I just feel blindsided.

I’d like to Calirify something here on behalf of my other head, right now gamma is a slight town read but the actions of nyeo (if nyeo ends up being scum) suggests possible scum team, but tbh I don’t exactly see we to eye with kor atm on reads, I honestly think very little has happened this game but I think nyeo is an ok possible lynch.
-n33dl3

What makes *those other players less likely than Gamma Emerald to be part of the scum team that they aren't also suspects if Nyeo turns out to be scum?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Sorry about the error in the previous posts. I assume they are still comprehensible.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

No one hammer though, I would consider anyone who hammers scum.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

No actually, I’m not. I did my reaction test, I got my results.
Honestly rn, Nyeo is an info lynch for me.
It confirms (at least for me), you and Duck as possible partners, and it helps me figure out people’s alignments.
Please explain why you think Gamma and Nyeo are town before I assume you’re their scumbuddies.
-Kor

Wait you're scumreading me now? I'd ask you what changed but it doesn't really matter because you're IC and don't have to justify yourself, I just feel blindsided.

I’d like to Calirify something here on behalf of my other head, right now gamma is a slight town read but the actions of nyeo (if nyeo ends up being scum) suggests possible scum team, but tbh I don’t exactly see we to eye with kor atm on reads, I honestly think very little has happened this game but I think nyeo is an ok possible lynch.
-n33dl3

I shouldn't be an English teacher over hear but I think by Calirify you mean clarify. Anyway, the following posts assumes that by Calirify you mean clarify.

While I do agree that it suggests a possible scum team, I do think it's important to note there are at least two other players who have plainly stated why they don't think you are right about Nyeo being scum. What makes the other players less likely than Gamma Emerald to be part of the scum team that they aren't also suspects if Nyeo turns out to be scum?

Generic Hydra, I'm waiting for your response.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

It does look like Kop is really busy.
UNVOTE: Kop

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Hey, I still think Kop is scum, but Sesq jumping on the wagon without even saying that Kop is back to L-1? Me no likey.
VOTE: Sesq

didn't realize forgetfulness was scumplay now

and it was clear why i thought he was scum, if you read my post

I read your post, but it's not clear why you thought he was scum. Give a more detailed explanation using that post since you claim it's clear.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: Sesq
L-3

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Hoopla tell me why I shouldn't lynch you for trying to fake the mod messing with your posts

Why does that warrant lynching?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

As an aside, Gamma's obliviousness seems quite town there, especially if I'm wrong about either Sesq's or Kop's alignment. Scum would know I was joking and be more likely to play along with ol' Hoopla if I was indeed incorrect about those votes. So, if Kop is scum or Sesq is town, then Gamma = town.

I didn't even do that as a reaction test, but somehow I have got a read out of it. What a truly gifted player I am.

I didn't even think about that!

[Fredrick A Campbell]

But who should the doctor protect tonight?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

i apologize for my absence - i had a hell of a week at work pop up. Tomorrow morning (10 hours from now) i will post a re read.
As of a quick glance i find the doctoring conversation skummy and i do not like the current wagon. Very brief re read, more tomorrow.

What makes you think it's "skummy"?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Interesting. Everybody left pin to chat with himself. At least that makes him very likely town to me.

This means the wagon was started by town and is put to L-1 by town, so I'm going to save you all the trouble and take the blame for this mislynch (IF it's a mislynch).

VOTE: Sesq

I believe this should end the day.

How did you reach the conclusion that the wagon was started by town?

Who is "you all"?

VOTE: Judge Joseph Dredd

[Fredrick A Campbell]

...
@Fredrick, you jumped on Kop's wagon, when you saw his wagon was finished with his claim you jumped on Sesq wagon without any explanation, and now you are the first to throw the rock to the OBVIOUS vote. Bae what is you doing?
...

Hey, I still think Kop is scum, but Sesq jumping on the wagon without even saying that Kop is back to L-1? Me no likey.
VOTE: Sesq

didn't realize forgetfulness was scumplay now

and it was clear why i thought he was scum, if you read my post

I read your post, but it's not clear why you thought he was scum. Give a more detailed explanation using that post since you claim it's clear.

The vote was to pressure him to answer the question.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Judge Jospeh Dredd is lying. I'm a vanilla townie.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Having slept on it, and seeing his new posts today, I'm probably more inclined to believe JJD as Cop now and am OK testing his guilty, but I still can't shake the feeling of paranoia he's scum getting one last mislynch for the road. Post 500 is also how I'd play a Cop with a guilty on D2, so he's at least thinking like how a Cop should play, and the longer we go without Frederick posting, the more suspicious it gets. He posted every day of the game on D1, and it's now coming up on 24 hours since JJD's guilty has been lingering in the air, so it's starting to feel pretty lurky...

It's true I haven't posted for 24 hours. From my perspective at GMT+8, though, I've posted everyday.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Don't you think it's a better idea to spend some time finding some scum partners?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Don't you think it's a better idea to spend some time finding some scum partners?

Kinda hard to do that when the guilty's outed?

I don't understand.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

By the way, I've got to go to bed in half an hour, and also, I'm multitasking with my homework. Just a paragraph I have to write.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: Frederick Campbell

Unvote please, he will self hammer if there's no chance of redeeming. We NEED more content

I would have self hammered much earlier if I wanted to.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

VOTE: Frederick Campbell

Unvote please, he will self hammer if there's no chance of redeeming. We NEED more content

I would have self hammered much earlier if I wanted to.

You JUST came here and said you are a VT, so no, you wouldn't self hammered without even saying "JJD" is lying.

Judge Jospeh Dredd is lying. I'm a vanilla townie.

I did.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Don't you think it's a better idea to spend some time finding some scum partners?

Kinda hard to do that when the guilty's outed?

I don't understand.

Now that a guilty is outed it's pretty much decided that we're either going to lynch it or the claimer. As such no other scum can be caught since they know hey aren't getting lynched.

You could still threaten to lynch them on Day 4.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Anyone has any questions. I have only seven more minutes.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I've still got some work I've got to do. Bye.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Una, if Fred flips scum would you be OK with lynching Mylo tomorrow?

What's your read on Mylo? Why do you think he's scum?

His only vote seems opportunistic, he has been lurking and PoE.

@Fred

if JJD is lying and is scum, then who is their partner?

Judge Joseph Dredd is lying, though only my lynch will prove that. However, I haven't spotted anyone that could potentially be his partner.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

No one has questions for me?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Interesting. Everybody left pin to chat with himself. At least that makes him very likely town to me.

This means the wagon was started by town and is put to L-1 by town, so I'm going to save you all the trouble and take the blame for this mislynch (IF it's a mislynch).

VOTE: Sesq

I believe this should end the day.

How did you reach the conclusion that the wagon was started by town?

Who is "you all"?

VOTE: Judge Joseph Dredd

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Judge Joseph Dredd, you haven't answered the question in the quoted post above.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

My spidey sense tells me Kop and JJD have a decent chance of being scum together
VOTE: Judge Joseph Dredd
I'm willing to sheep this

What do you think about Kop now?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I'm of 2 minds
I think lynching the VT claim is the safe choice as we don't want to out the PRs
But since my call for the Masons to claim was met by general objection I can see this one too to be viewed as advocating a mislynch on purpose

fwiw I buy the claim from Kop and I think if lynched he will flip a villager just like he said, but I don't know if lynching him is good or bad so I'm staying put

And then later on...

Interesting. Everybody left pin to chat with himself. At least that makes him very likely town to me.

This means the wagon was started by town and is put to L-1 by town, so I'm going to save you all the trouble and take the blame for this mislynch (IF it's a mislynch).

VOTE: Sesq

I believe this should end the day.

What changed, Judge Joseph Dredd?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Gamma Emerald, will you please unvote me temporarily, I don't think we want anyone to hammer me and end the day.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Una, if Fred flips scum would you be OK with lynching Mylo tomorrow?

What's your read on Mylo? Why do you think he's scum?

His only vote seems opportunistic, he has been lurking and PoE.

@Fred

if JJD is lying and is scum, then who is their partner?

Come to think of it, anyone who hammers me should be looked into.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Why not, game is dead anyways

Was thinking we might be able to squeeze more content out of other players. I still think it could be done. Also, I could be lynched later. Not sure if it will be more beneficial to do so, though.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Good night. Judge Claude Frollo, I await your answer.