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first off, being too easy isn't necessarily a good foundation to start your read off with. saying you wouldn't discount him is super wishy washy and makes you come across as bad, so you should take a firm stance next time you want to make a read like that. even firmly null is better than fence sitting regardless of if you're wolf or town.In post 949, the worst wrote:Why
i seriously doubt scum korina ever plays like that here.In post 950, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not scumreading him, but I do think his post was ugly. Why are you townreading him tho? I would say he's a null at best-
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Do you mean you have a metaread on him, or are you implying that any scum would play like that? Have you played with Korina before?In post 951, MOMOMEN wrote:
i seriously doubt scum korina ever plays like that here.In post 950, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not scumreading him, but I do think his post was ugly. Why are you townreading him tho? I would say he's a null at best-
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i have a soulread on himIn post 952, pinturicchio wrote:
Do you mean you have a metaread on him, or are you implying that any scum would play like that? Have you played with Korina before?In post 951, MOMOMEN wrote:
i seriously doubt scum korina ever plays like that here.In post 950, pinturicchio wrote:I'm not scumreading him, but I do think his post was ugly. Why are you townreading him tho? I would say he's a null at best-
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Fair and duly noted. I'm bad for fencesitting people I don't have a strong read one way or the other one.In post 951, MOMOMEN wrote:
first off, being too easy isn't necessarily a good foundation to start your read off with. saying you wouldn't discount him is super wishy washy and makes you come across as bad, so you should take a firm stance next time you want to make a read like that. even firmly null is better than fence sitting regardless of if you're wolf or town.In post 949, the worst wrote:Why
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Oh yes, because I totally wasn't over explaining in that game...In post 579, pinturicchio wrote:Sorry I don't really know if the name of that game was Stack the Deck, it's the game that the worst linked here where Dino was moderator and NM was scum
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mutantdevle Mafia Scum
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To be fair, given how active you are, I feel like you would be likely to address everything that goes on the thread. It is kinda odd that you seemed to ignore the pressure on you.In post 617, the worst wrote:what would you expect town!me to react with given my activity this game?I mostly just lurk now.-
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I don't think you should be to so quick to write off N_M as an early lynch candidate. If there's no vig in the game, I'm definitely going to be all for his lynch tomorrow. You either kill off shit posters early or let them live until endgame - and I don't really want N_M in the endgame.In post 618, Alonzo wrote:
Il stick with you. You are a better Lynch than Notmafia today.In post 613, the worst wrote:as I said before I'm just assuming Alonzo is going somewhere here because his catchup post is dreadful
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I agree.In post 651, the worst wrote:Ceejay is adorable but unfortunately could be scum
Sando I owe you a beer
An update on my previous post is that if either Ceejay or Alonso flip scum I think the worst would be town based on general interactions (Alonso recently and Ceejay throughout the thread). Alonso's and Ceejay's flips won't say much about each other though.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Assuming this is a question for me:In post 662, Alonzo wrote:
Whats going on from your POV here devle cos this just seems grim to me.In post 169, the worst wrote:
Last time we played you were obvtown as shit to me WHILE being mislynched. Like you took stances and explained yourself well as I recall it, the haters just rebutted beautifully and town were of inconsistent qualityIn post 134, mutantdevle wrote:
What makes you think I'm scum?In post 131, the worst wrote:In other news....devle why did you roll scum?! I like you! So unfair.
Here it feels like youre trying to avoid taking stances or explain yourself. IIOA vibe from substanceposts. If this is just my hungover self being a mess please show me where I'm wrong.
Seems like 'throw shit and if it sticks great! ..... If not.. well... reasons'
I never really read this comment as a scummy reason to scum read me. I just though he was another player trying to read me based on a certain thing I did in a certain way in a certain game. I've had a fair few players expect me to replicate my exact playstyle each time when I'm a little more varied than that. I assumed this was just another example of that.I mostly just lurk now.-
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In post 684, Oxy wrote:
I translate 676 as the following, and it reads very townie to me:In post 683, Quick wrote:I disagree that you should be giving Townie points for being "logical." Scum can make cases on people too, and in fact, I'd say more often than not Scum default to being rational and Town default to being unsound/chaotic/unknowledgeable/ignorant/doubtful. The reason for this is simple: Town are automatically in a place filled with chaos while Scum are in a place of order.
Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying.
But I maintain that in ideal world, things would be such that I would be right!
And even if you're right, his reaction would be bad in that scenario, too!
And now I'm frustrated that I've come all the way down this rabbit hole and oxy is either bad!scum or bad!town but it's his bad play that got me into this mess
so I'm going to keep voting him regardless
And you could be right about him being terribad!town so I don't want to continue arguing with you about his alignment
But people better step the fuck off with the unsubstantiated insults
I really like Sando's reaction here.In post 685, Sando wrote:^Close enoughI mostly just lurk now.-
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Again, I like this reaction. I don't think scum would brush off someone defending them like this.In post 689, Oxy wrote:It's actually a good case for a playstyle, and yeah, it's my playstyle except I hadn't really thought consciously about fighting off TR's I don't like.
I was really just in a shitty mood, and I felt like he was coming at me, so I told him his read was shit instead of trying to be diplomatic.I mostly just lurk now.-
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This makes me feel uncomfortable because it feels like you are trying too hard to defend him.In post 690, Quick wrote:Doesn't mean that you weren't doing it unconsciously.I mostly just lurk now.-
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I like this observation. I was just passing him off as someone who didn't really understand me but now I can see there could be scum motivation behind his play there.In post 697, Sando wrote:But beyond that, on reflection the interaction with mutant was off. At the time it made sense, but as mutant pointed out, there's really no need to vote-pressure him. Anyone properly looking at mutant watched the mutant/sando/duckling interaction and would realise that all you had to be was direct and you'd get an answer to your question. Felt like the vote was an attempt to look like he's doing something and that if he didn't vote he'd be seen as wishy washy and uncommitted.
Felt like a player realising they're not keeping up with the game and seeking to show that they're doing something. Didn't feel like a genuine effort from him.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Though something to note is that the only time I have really pressure voted someone for something like this was indeed to look busy and seem like I was using my vote. I was town on those occasions though. However, I'm not sure if that's just because I'm the kind of player that doesn't tend to throw their vote around too much.I mostly just lurk now.-
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I don't like Momo's entrance. Not because they call me scum in it but because they start with the typical WIFOM of "glad we're not scum, lol!" and then proceed to be very aggressive.
That's probably a playstyle thing more than anything AI indicative though. But they strike me as a player that I'm going to find inherently scummy and struggle to sort :/I mostly just lurk now.-
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It appears you already know meIn post 742, MOMOMEN wrote:i'll know each of u so well i'll be whispering sweet nothings into ur ear while feeding u chocolate strawberries.I mostly just lurk now.-
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For the most part, you do treat them like anyone else except sometimes you can find yourself reading each head differently.In post 748, ceejayvinoya wrote:@quick I've never played with a hydra before. Any advice on dealing with them? Like just treat them like anyone else?
Why did you specifically ask for Quick's advice on this?I mostly just lurk now.-
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I agree with what you imply here. It's really scummy and awkward the way the worst is brushing off these accusations.In post 771, Oxy wrote:In post 767, the worst wrote:Hm?
So duckling is the lynch today, then.In post 769, the worst wrote:
It kinda reminds me of when someone makes a joke about you being gay and you don't deny it because you don't want to lie to them but you don't want to come out yet either so instead you just laugh.I mostly just lurk now.
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