I've played with Pintu in a scum team. He is most certainly good at faking shit and manipulating people. Don't underestimate him.In post 1217, Quick wrote:What you have to look for in the tin foil is Town thought process and Pint is ripe with it. He can't fake shit that well.
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1. Just because he raises a few points that doesn't make him right. Ofc I think he's wrong, hence the town lean on the worst, but that's blatantly not the point. His criticisms of him come from a town PoV and I like that.In post 1228, ceejayvinoya wrote:1. Why don't you believe him then? You think alonzo is wrong about the worst?
2. Are you saying that being busy IRL and lurking is AI?
3. Rvs scum claim??? NAI. Quick vote? He said himself that it was an rxn test.
4. Too bad.
5. Define his town attitude? The way he helps town? The worst practically said earlier that being helpful is NAI for him.
I don't have to justify my vote. I was sheeping momomen like I said earlier. You can't judge me for that since you tried to sheep too
2. Again, of course not. My read on Korina has always been that he's scummy. Being inactive isn't going to make my read reset to null.
3. For the RVS claim you are either refusing to acknowledge context to how I view it or have simply forgotten. Go back and read the posts I made about it at the time and you'll understand. Furthermore, I don't believe that was a reaction test. People were criticising it and he backed out in a clever way. The reaction test achieved nothing. Everyone of either alignment is going to criticise you for such a stupid case and there are no conclusions to be made from such a test.
I'm not sure if I'm being blind here but I never saw him say anything about what he got from this. It was a pointless reaction test, it achieved nothing, and, in my opinion, he only claimed that to get out of a shitty read.In post 208, Korina wrote:I wanted to see what people would do in reaction to what I said.
I'll post what I got from it later when I have my laptop.
5. Town attitude is general game solving and coming from a PoV that he doesn't know people's alignments. Thank you for pointing out what he said about his helpfulness, I've just realised I've been overlooking that. However, there's still a difference between helpfulness and being town since town doesn't know people's alignments.
6. I'm not criticising you for sheeping at all. You're right that you didn't have to justify your vote, so why are you? You're now only just criticising me for things that you could have done any time throughout the game. That sounds like scum trying to justify themselves in light of a potential mislynch. If you are actually just sheeping, what's with these criticisms you're now throwing at me? You're not sheeping MOMO, you're currently building your own reasons to be on my wagon.I mostly just lurk now.-
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That website? Awesome.
Pintu? Scummy. His defence of Oxy is weird, especially since he said myself and Oxy could be scum buddies earlier and has barely interacted with him since. He was also using a bit of appeal to emotion in your little argument with him which I saw him use in our scum game together. Other than that, alarm bells are ringing in my head and my gut when I read Pintu's posts and my gut reads are usually more accurate than my more reasonable ones. So take that as you will but just know I am fully up for wagoning him.I mostly just lurk now.-
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the initial lurk-lurk-lurk-defence manoeuvre pinged me too but his response was outstanding.
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I trust some of their opinions but not their motives. If they ever flip town then I'll probably sheep some of their reads in their absence.In post 1330, the worst wrote:the initial lurk-lurk-lurk-defence manoeuvre pinged me too but his response was outstanding.
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In post 1331, the worst wrote:could you link me to what you perceived to be AtE in your last game with scum!pingu btw?Spoiler: Pintu being emotionally manipulative
And may I just add that this emotional display essentially got Almost50 lynched instead of us 3 in the scum team who wereallpromising wagons day 1.
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I'm going to bed, got a new gig tomorrow so gotta be sharp. Some thoughts:
a) Oxy's "case" was indeed pretty terrible
b) Duckling response struck me as "jesus dude, THIS is the town I've gotta deal with?!" - but then maybe I'm looking for that since it was my response to Quick. It did seem out of character from duckling though.
c) Pintu's "dun be toxic" is fine in isolation, but given some of the shade thrown around this game, I find it odd that this was what he decided needed attention
d) The overly placating (ok this is the wrong term, but he's kid-gloving duckling here) tone from Pintu strikes me as very odd as well
e) In light of mutants posts (and this is why I want to keep this fella around), Pintu is clearly capable of the level of toxicity he's accusing duckling of, which to be fair is not very high toxicity.
Overall, while I didn't like Ducklings response on a scummy scale, I'm probably biased from my Quick interactions which I felt were fairly similar so I'm not giving much AI points for it.
Pintu's reaction here really does not sit well for me, the effort put in not to actually make a judgement either way while also throwing toxicity charge at Duckling and nicely sneaking in the "this is Oxy's first real game" comment there...
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Ummm I don't want to read but I cannot justifynotdoing so because I have most of my day free . . .beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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You missed the third option where defending someone can easily be interpreted as the defender town reading who they are defending due to that kinda being the whole point of defending someone.In post 1337, pinturicchio wrote:You're over reaching with your gut read on me! Either you're very very wrong, ir very very scummy.
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I think he's town, but I feel he's scum, but I have no sustent to townread nor scumread him. So the real question is: are my gutreads good enough to follow them? And the answer is I don't know.In post 1338, mutantdevle wrote:
You missed the third option where defending someone can easily be interpreted as the defender town reading who they are defending due to that kinda being the whole point of defending someone.In post 1337, pinturicchio wrote:You're over reaching with your gut read on me! Either you're very very wrong, ir very very scummy.
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I have not played with Mutant Scum and this doesn't matter until you list examples that this is his Scum play.In post 1243, MOMOMEN wrote:So, Quick, since you said you have a good track record with TRs, I'm going to make an effort here. Have you played with Mutant scum? It doesn't shock me a more competent player seems townie in a game with a bunch of completely useless slots.
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How are you going to force people to explain when you don't?In post 1267, MOMOMEN wrote:Okay. Explain how-
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Im town.
And finally forced to read. Im gonna not read the middle of the game. Tips and hints?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Where did you actually mean to put NM, and what was the train of thought that led to him being mentioned twice? I'll take as much detail on part two as you'll give me.In post 1345, Randomnamechange wrote:oxy, sando
momonen, the worst, CJ
NM, Pintu, pisskop
Ico, nm, mutant
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Spoiler: page 40-44beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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VOTE: unvote
Townbloc is
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beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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