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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:30 am

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In post 624, Punreader wrote:
In post 618, Jingle wrote:I can definitely grok your schadd_ argument, btw, pun, but cane seems pretty town since the replace.
That's the problem, actually. Eddie's not where you want to be right now, trust me. His content since coming in has been to establish a presence and challenge you for the position of town leader and direct the town away from the direction it needs to head towards.

Given his competency as both alignments, I can confidently say that this is the play he makes as pun. His approach as town is entirely different.
To further clarify.
Eddie's both a remarkably strong town player AND a remarkably strong pun player. As a result, you can quite well use a modified version of Burden of Proficiency without it being fallacious. If the direction Eddie Cane takes the town is not correct and he makes moves which are advantageous to the pun (e.g. the power play in challenging your status as the town leader), then he is pun; if Eddie were town, then his approach would be something else altogether. (I'm trying to figure out a way of describing the trait of his towngame without giving away my identity. Even though it's basically an open secret at this point, I'd rather not altogether confirm it explicitly.)

I guarantee you he's a backstabber. Honestly he's probably my strongest punread right now, stronger even than Titus.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:35 am

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And to add in further reiteration: part of what makes the move pun is that he
did
spend that time to establish his presence and make it "known" he is "town". He took the time to make you like him. That is one of his strongest puntells.

I can say with upwards of 90% confidence I know my meta here. That level of confidence is higher than almost any other player.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:05 pm

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did you answer my question, spammer?
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:48 pm

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VOTE: Punreader

ETL, I am sheeping you here. The only strong scumread I have is not getting lynched due to sheer nonsense volume. You seem pretty confident in your slip though and I remember how I felt when you TRed me and talked me out of lynching scum that won. So, I'll follow you for now. If the hydra ever becomes a thing though, I am voting it.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:51 pm

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ETL, the punreader explanation makes sense with my parsing of the post.

Also,

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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:12 pm

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In post 628, Titus wrote:VOTE: Punreader

ETL, I am sheeping you here. The only strong scumread I have is not getting lynched due to sheer nonsense volume. You seem pretty confident in your slip though and I remember how I felt when you TRed me and talked me out of lynching scum that won. So, I'll follow you for now. If the hydra ever becomes a thing though, I am voting it.
didn't etl imply that you were scum by extension because of that slip?

are you just glancing over that
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:26 pm

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apparently tituswagon is a thing becausei)
jingle wrote:And is it time for grand sweeping statements about relationships now?

Titus and ETL are not both scum.

Pun and ETL are not both scum.

Roughly 80% that one of the three is, though.
ii)
iii) sheeping jingle
iv) a lack of internal logic behind her reads to understand where they came from


@jingle
, my first big question is
why is 80% likelihood for 1 of 3 players a good metric for scumreading someone?
is that not like.. 5% higher than random chance?
or am i just not understanding your point?

second big question is
why titus over anyone else in that pile? i dont really understand why from your ISO.

@punreader
,
i want you to give me a pair of towngames/scumgames to directly reference this game against.
and if its not particularly convincing then im probably going to roast you over an open fire.
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kind of doesnt really feel like theres much in terms of a substantive push on titus and nobody on the wagon is really pushing a rhetoric that indicates that theyre even particularly confident about it?
if im missing something, would love for someone to fill me in.

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mostly nontitus-related things

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mulchslot is maybe scum.
some of punreader's posts are pinging me but the sheer volume of content theyre unloading the game is kind of hard to imagine coming from scum?
porkens is an enigma and i dont really remember why i felt they were scummy anymore.

i really hope schadd starts posting again

etl's probably my strongest townread atm followed closely by sgba.
would love some more creature posts to solidify the read, but tn's posts are a nice consolation prize.

saw etl's thing about punreader and it mostly made my head hurt.

im aiming to dive titus's ISO [and can maybe try to pick apart etl's punreader posts] sometime tomorrow if i have time after work/packing/board games.
probably cant devote too much time to this game in the near future [work is super fucked atm and honestly should be working right now but im dumb :') ]

also if theres some big post summarizing what the current game plan is night action-wise itd be swell if someone could link it at my face.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:41 pm

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In post 609, Punreader wrote:
In post 549, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 542, Punreader wrote:The better question is why would a town Titus decide to vote someone for language?
an arguably unreasonable vote for pretty much policy reasons is exactly something I expect from titus. I also don't think Titus requires to policy vote to make a natural entrance to the game.
Are you trying to write a case for Titus being town or pun? Because this is doing the latter.
how so
In post 623, Punreader wrote:(And yes I am rather strict about my language usage. It is a requirement for the gimmick.)
please make it stop
In post 631, Gorkington wrote: mulchslot is maybe scum.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:15 pm

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In post 630, Stop Getting Banned Again wrote:
In post 628, Titus wrote:VOTE: Punreader

ETL, I am sheeping you here. The only strong scumread I have is not getting lynched due to sheer nonsense volume. You seem pretty confident in your slip though and I remember how I felt when you TRed me and talked me out of lynching scum that won. So, I'll follow you for now. If the hydra ever becomes a thing though, I am voting it.
didn't etl imply that you were scum by extension because of that slip?

are you just glancing over that
She's trying to distance now. She's never been good at being subtle with that.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:28 pm

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honestly just let her have her fun
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 5:58 am

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Well this is fun..
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 5:58 am

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I guess I could do more ISOs.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:02 am

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I honestly can't even figure out if this is townTitus who's tired of mafia, or scumTitus who's trying not to rock the boat.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:03 am

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Jingle, I need you to walk me through you hydra read, please. And I don't want any of that "meta, trust me" bs. Give me tangible, reasonable, provable reasons. SHOW me.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:06 am

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In post 34, schadd_ wrote:i think penguin power is
town
Does anyone here have experience with schad or eddit? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:06 am

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Dunno why it quoted that.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:07 am

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13 players, plus 20 extra people in one slot, and not a single post in over 14 hours. wtf is going on here?
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:22 am

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Final exam in 4 hours and I wanna die

I'll talk later
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:31 am

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In post 478, Nosferatu wrote:some elaboration would be nice
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This comment is amazing considering :lol:

Plus the protecting of Titus was weird.
In post 540, Nosferatu wrote:why does scum!titus decide to vote someone for language?
In post 549, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 542, Punreader wrote:The better question is why would a town Titus decide to vote someone for language?
an arguably unreasonable vote for pretty much policy reasons is exactly something I expect from titus.

I also don't think Titus requires to policy vote to make a natural entrance to the game.
Like.. wtf is this...?
In post 634, Nosferatu wrote:honestly just let her have her fun

Gives zero explanation of reads, engages no one (I mean, he says I'm scum but... does... nothing... to talk to me at all??) Nor does he make any attempt at supporting his reads. His pun vote is curious. Makes me wonder if I'm wrong there, and should vote nos instead...


Also think gork is town. So, the noose tightens thusly...

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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:35 am

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I could also see Titus' lack of enthusiasm as being scum exhaustion, i.e. she's demotivated because she rolled mafia, again. I got that way for a while.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 8:08 am

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OH. MHM.

FASCINATING.

HELLO? ANYBODY HOME?
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 8:12 am

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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 9:13 am

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K I'm going to the beach
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 9:23 am

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I just don't have much to talk about. The plan is fine, we investigate the ban account and then lynch whoever. lets go
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2018 10:23 am

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In post 588, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 473, Punreader wrote:PenguinPower had an incredibly town entrance, which was natural; there was absolutely nothing artificial or fake in his opening. This earned him the spot as my penultimate townread. Since then, there has been a perfect blend of being lighthearted and scumhunting; he's neither fluff posted nor been super serious. That is exactly what I would expect of him as town. Pending some major change, my townread there is never shifting its strength.
Where have I don't any scumhunting? And, why would you expect that of me as town?


In post 589, Jingle wrote:I'm taking that as approval of the plan Eddie. Nos, PP, approval of the plan?
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