Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[CheekyTeeky]

Are we all town?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm also gutreading Hiplop as town (where did this guy go) and he said Reck was scummy, so yeah...

I gut read Hiplop town too.

[CheekyTeeky]

D: VOTE: Alisae

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok let's go

VOTE: Firebringer

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah at this point nsg's reads feel political.

How?

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah at this point nsg's reads feel political.

How?

She seems to suspect those who suspect her. It sends out a message of "those who suspect me against the good of the town".

But how is that scummy? Also this isn't accurate. I suspected her and she town reads me. Gamma NSG is likely town though I'm no Mathdino.

[CheekyTeeky]

Okay then. She's still scum for numerous other reasons though.

That sounds very serious. Would you vote anyone else atm?

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky I just got 3 hours of sleep and you dissapoint me by hoping off T—Bone
I feel disrespected

Aw but you're Alisae Trimagistus!

[CheekyTeeky]

Alisae if you're scum I'm going to be sad.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok why not, apparently I've scum read him in my last reads list so.

VOTE: T-Bone

Alisae - like Hermes Trimagistus (three times great)

Bed time. Gl with flash wagon.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gooey do you have any other reads yet or are you happy tunnelling me like noob scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not scum reading him, I want his other reads I'm done with people using scum reading me or being annoyed with me as an excuse not to try and sort the game.

[CheekyTeeky]

Is it bad that there'sno counterwagon to Tbone?

[CheekyTeeky]

Demanding? Lol it's just an observation. I'm losing my faith in this wagon.

Do we have time to try someone else? Like AA9? At least Tbone is contributing.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: ArchAngel9

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine I'm struggling to read Alisae though.

VOTE: Tbone

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Firebringer

[CheekyTeeky]

No...I can't it's a disorder. I can't sit still until I'm 100% on someone.

[CheekyTeeky]

I think the apathy from FB this game is pretty AI plus other reasons hidden in my ISO like rare gems.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't see Ali/FB being TvT something in there is ringing alarm bells and I can't put my finger on it.

[CheekyTeeky]

FB why won't you play?

[CheekyTeeky]

Why are you mad? What did I do?

[CheekyTeeky]

Knowing I'm town and not talking to me about how my reads are bad...not talking to me at all...and now super mad because you're being pushed?

Go fuck yourself FB if you're town. Otherwise lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Knowing I'm town and not talking to me about how my reads are bad...not talking to me at all...and now super mad because you're being pushed?

Go fuck yourself FB if you're town. Otherwise lol.

I defended you all game and you push to lynch me?

No fuck you

Why aren't you playing??? Give me something. Or at least push the Gemerald wagon if you're serious.

Defending me doesn't mean I owe you a TR you knob.

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine grumpy.

VOTE: Gemerald

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm 100% on this. Let's go.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's called awkward scum behaviour SOD + Pushing obv town NSG. Each is basically a scum claim.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky you’re like MathBlade

I resent this. I'm nothing like anyone.

[CheekyTeeky]

NSG is lock town. It took me taking my tunnel glasses off to see it.

If it took you taking off the tunnel glasses, nsg is not obvtown. Also I don't get what you find awkward about my opening but like whatever, same stupid thign nsg seems to be trying to push. Though unlike nsg you've actually had read development.

That is a surprisingly good point. Sigh.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Reck this feels good

[CheekyTeeky]

Like Cheeky I am pretty sure if I ask you for a readlist now and a readlist one page from now there will be a huge wacky difference imo
Like chill, talk to me.

Can you try to explain all of your current fos’es for me please?

I am sorting. As I said to TBone I am a reaction tester/intent reader. Yes my readslists change rapidly I do a version every few pages in a newbie so people can watch my progression. If you think I'm town you don't need to worry about what I'm doing and just watch how people react.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gooey do you think TBone is scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

Whatever, if Reck’s okay with it I don’t care.

VOTE: Cheeky

Hammer

i wasn't okay with it
it's why i explicitly asked for my iso read before i did anything

pine is scum

Reck, are you a doublevoter?

no, why

firebringer isn't even right about why im bothered by nsg's posting style.
he literally just saw a chance to jump in and try to gain towncred by mediating

most comfortable place for scum to be is mediating between two town who have beef

VOTE: Firebringer

Lmao @ Reck. But seriously I'm posting the same way so kind of unfair to attack NSG for it.

this post is important

VOTE: cheekyteeky

hyung is town

Hey Reck can you explain where your Pine is scum certainty disappeared to?

I was really confused by you TRing Hyung > Wanting to lynch me > Calling Pine scum for derp hammering me > Jumping on Fire > Voting north > Voting me in rapid succession.

It would be nice to know how you feel about Pine, Hyung and NSG now.

[CheekyTeeky]

since we've got less than 3 days now btw

people i will help lynch without hesitation: tbone, arc, mutant

The problem is Tbone is being replaced so we can wait for the replacement D2 who will hopefully be easier to read. The other two are low info lynches so I'd probably rather mutant > AA9 tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

If Reck flips town I think that points to Fire/Pine scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Whatever, if Reck’s okay with it I don’t care.

VOTE: Cheeky

Hammer

i wasn't okay with it
it's why i explicitly asked for my iso read before i did anything

pine is scum

Reck, are you a doublevoter?

no, why

firebringer isn't even right about why im bothered by nsg's posting style.
he literally just saw a chance to jump in and try to gain towncred by mediating

most comfortable place for scum to be is mediating between two town who have beef

VOTE: Firebringer

Lmao @ Reck. But seriously I'm posting the same way so kind of unfair to attack NSG for it.

this post is important

VOTE: cheekyteeky

hyung is town

Hey Reck can you explain where your Pine is scum certainty disappeared to?

I was really confused by you TRing Hyung > Wanting to lynch me > Calling Pine scum for derp hammering me > Jumping on Fire > Voting north > Voting me in rapid succession.

It would be nice to know how you feel about Pine, Hyung and NSG now.

where did i say it disappeared

i had a read on pine. i still have a read on pine. im just chasing a ton of people i think should be lynched at once.

tbh the best way to explain my progression is i tend to mostly check this game late at night when im 2 bottles of wine deep so i go purely off of gut instinct because i just dont have time to check it during the day anymore due to a big boy promotion at work

so like, i believe the things i say when i say them, i just dont remember ive said them the next day

disclaimer: this is another one of those posts

pine is still scum. hyung is lurkaderp and it makes my townread on hyung fade. i dont even remember why i voted north so ill have to go back and try to jostle my memory

Why are you voting Fire and not pushing Pine?

Also, congrats XD I like your style.

[CheekyTeeky]

Am I policy?

[CheekyTeeky]

Fair.

[CheekyTeeky]

Reck what do you think about Alisae?

[CheekyTeeky]

@cheeky what changed your mind about arc to vote there for a time?

She popped in and wolfclaimed obviously. Are you planning on keeping your vote there until day end or?

[CheekyTeeky]

Gooey what do you think about Alisae?

[CheekyTeeky]

id be fine with cheekylynch too tbh

oh.
hm.
nevermind.

cheeky ill let you get your thoughts out on me before i hammer if you can do it asap

Whatever, if Reck’s okay with it I don’t care.

VOTE: Cheeky

Hammer

i wasn't okay with it
it's why i explicitly asked for my iso read before i did anything

pine is scum

Reck, are you a doublevoter?

no, why

This feels very weird. Reck is happy to lynch me > Pine fake hammers > Reck was not happy to lynch me and says Pine is scum.

Why are you voting Fire and not pushing Pine?

Also, congrats XD I like your style.

because they're both scum but a firebringer flashwagon was happening so i gave it my support

Still says Pine is scum and yet...

any of mutant, pine, cheeky, tbone, firebringer, arcangel can die today and id be happy

there's very few people in the player list id be sad to see die d1 actually

Includes me as a Policy Lynch and has never pushed Pine. I don't know why someone who claims he's confident that Fire and Pine are scum would then give a pool of players to lynch from that include policy lynches. After he claimed Pine was scum he essentially avoided him and voted both Fire and I for very iffy reasons. It's confusing because tone says he's town but intent and logic say he's not. With 3 days left he's doing little to promote wagons he believes in.

I think this is the best lynch for today.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't like the feeling of all these momentum changes
I remember a game where there were a lot of momentum changes and the game ended up a scum win, can someone help me here or will I have to find it myself?

Can you read individual players in this game from it? What do you make of the ad hoc town bloc that's formed? Have you noticed the same player triggering them and do you think the reasons are valid?

[CheekyTeeky]

Okay if I'm right which I'm like 66% on currently, the voting bloc in the other game seemed to have one scum in it, and would start out on scum, and it seemed to err onto town. That game was a 13p fyi so I'd probably extrapolate it to 1-2 scum in this voting bloc and I'll probably use the same principle of it starting on scum then erring onto town.

So in this scenario scum would be Tbone?

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like Tbone < Reck.

I like Reck, found the progression of people's reads on him terrible. If I skim back through the past few pages it goes Tbone (triggered by Alisae) > Reck (triggered by Fire) > Mutant (triggered by Alisae). Both Tbone and Reck came back to the thread amidst their wagons and it seemed to trigger a switch. The switch to mutant had no reason to the trigger apart from a few players voicing their concern about the slot prior so it could be taken as an opportunistic switch depending on how the wagon breaks down, if at all.

The switches plus reasons read [wagon on town] --> [wagon on scum] --> [wagon on town] (disclaimer: I do not TR mutant he's still hovering around null for me. I do not TR Tbone either but would like to wait for D2)

Am I being conf. bias?

[CheekyTeeky]

The read progression statement about Reck could be interpreted as a town read. I meant the reason for others to jump on and off were weird as shit. The Alisae/Reck interaction was weird and Reck omitting her from his lynchable list didn't make sense after he called bs on her case.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lol yes? Would like to hear your analysis.

[CheekyTeeky]

AA9 is posting elsewhere atm. If that slot doesn't contribute before EOD it's a scumclaim.

search.php?author_id=20422&sr=posts

[CheekyTeeky]

Well as I said I think the best way to obtain the names of those in it is the vote scrubber, which I'm no good with.

Or you could go back to when Alisae replaced in and note down the votes. It would be good training for your vote counter apprenticeshipm

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not convinced Reck. Sure you want me lynched for spamming but you've still yet to explain how me defending the playstyle of NSG "is important" like you said when you initially voted me, How you've never tried to sort Pine or Alisae, why you're being defensive instead of convincing people about the FB lynch etc. It's pretty easy to cherry pick my points and ignore the points you don't want to answer as scum.

Further I think you're a high info lynch as well as scum looking at all the reads and interactions around you. And lastly, I don't believe you and your tone.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: AA9

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: AA9

Unproductive.

You don't need to say, I assume that's what you think already for every post.

P.S congrats on the coming baby girl.

[CheekyTeeky]

Mutant tryhards can't help but be tryhards, so if you're not trying a new style you're likely some kind of scum. From one tryhard to another

Btw if people decide to wagon Reck I'd be very happy but I'm pretty sure AA9 is active lurking, creature styles.

I don't understand how I went from Obv town to town lean for NSG.
And why gamma is pushing a Tbone lynch, whilst pointing me out as a lynch shopper when he knows that's been my style this whole game. Also not sure why he thinks game meta regarding quick wagons is now a reason to SR Tbone over his previous lock scum read of NSG.

I'm starting to believe Alisae is town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lol that's actually hilarious Gamma. I've stated more than once I don't want Tbone lynched today since he's being replaced. Being called a fool by you is a badge of honour I'll wear proudly.

[CheekyTeeky]

Great 7 more days of getting under Reck's skin.

VOTE: xRECKONERx

[CheekyTeeky]

doing something specifically to get under someone else's skin & not defending your scum reads >>>>>>>>>>> way worse than anything ive done this game

Tell me directly why you scum read me instead of this shading business you're trying to start.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't understand how I went from Obv town to town lean for NSG.

it's my read being influenced by many other people in the game seeming to scumread you. like, maybe i'm the one who's wrong and there's something i'm not seeing or that i'm misreading.

Ugh. Ok so you're obviously more familiar with Tbone's meta then? I find it hard to believe you defend Tbone when a wagon builds on him and yet you knew I was town straight away and have had your read influenced by "others" - you've seen scum me and town me more than anyone else here and now I'm sitting here completely confused about why anyone else's opinion would matter to you, especially when the other person familiar with both my games, FB hard town reads me.

Who are these people swaying your town read? I haven't been wagoned since you said "Cheeky obv town" and "wagonomics makes cheeky even more town" so that indicates to me that all the other people scum reading me aren't so sure anymore and yet...they're influencing your read?

[CheekyTeeky]

because youve been spamming and i think it's easier for scum to hide behind a spammy playstyle

you also defended nsg for no reason

you're one of the most prolific posters in the game and i have no sense of what you're doing or why so to me that could be alignment indicative

Ok we both know spamming != scum. Secondly I think we have different definitions of spamming. My posts, though prolific, have genuine game content. I have a very high post count this game because half the players aren't playing or pretending not to care, which makes it look worse. If I was writing complete bs in every post I would agree that I'm likely scum however the depth of thought in some of my posts and the genuine paranoia make me conf. town. I accept that I annoy people but I will not accept that I'm scummy because you can't be bothered to read my posts.

Also I'm going to try not to post more than 4 times a day for the rest of the game as I am slightly embarassed about high far above my post count is so far.

Defending NSG was because I felt like you were attacking her personally by attacking her style rather than her arguments and I like NSG so I don't let shit like that slide.

At the moment I want to lynch you or AA9, I thought that was pretty apparent. You not understanding what I do does not make me scum either.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: AA9 L-1.

[CheekyTeeky]

@Mod

was that not hammer?

[CheekyTeeky]

Yay Tbone was town. *strokes beard looking at Gemerald*

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah tempting atm Brian. I think mutant/NSG interactions are pretty telling. It would also implicate Reck. But I'm enjoying watching someone else play the game atm.

[CheekyTeeky]

Reck, PP, NSG and ?

Pine would you like me to replace out? I seem to really rub you the wrong way. I'm happy to leave if that makes this game better for you. I don't appreciate being called a VI.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well I'm always looking for ways to improve so I appreciate your honesty. The different reactions I get to this persona are interesting. I'll tone it down this game though and hopefully I'll get more feedback after the game.

For now I'm pretty set on lynching in Reck, AA9. I don't understand why AA9 is not scum after lurking out a whole day phase whilst being active elsewhere? Why did she bother with the perpetual "I'll catch up soon posts" instead of just skimming and putting down a vote? I don't understand the defense.

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like Reck resorting to a role that will make him obv town later as a defense with only two votes on him is a little meh?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think Vax is likely confused town. Could be opportunistic scum but that would throw my current reads out of whack >.>

I have to study for a test so I

should

be VLAish for the next 48 hours.

[CheekyTeeky]

So because something conflicts with your reads you believe it to be untrue?

No I'm saying I'd have to re-look at everything but would rather pursue my current set of reads. No idea how you came to that conclusion.

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like Reck resorting to a role that will make him obv town later as a defense with only two votes on him is a little meh?

ive already claimed this before

My role will be conf to some people in this gam

Also I don't know that hyung is Marquis it just seems like w very Marquis alt and Marquis is queen of alts

Yeah but what Townie says this? How do you expect to not be killed now unless you're the one doing the killing?

The only intent I can see here is self-preservation.

[CheekyTeeky]

Pine why is mutant scum aside from AA9 being a counterwagon to scum!mutant?

[CheekyTeeky]

But it sounds like she's having a hard time staying current.

then she needs to replace the fuck out
same with hiplop

they have 11/12 posts and the game has been going for 16 days

8 out of hiplop's 12 posts came in the first 24 hours of this game, which means he has posted 4 times in 15 days
3 of those other posts came on Apr 26 which were just 3 posts of him promising to read the game and be active
still nothing from him, but at least he had early game content, which is more than we can see for AA9

aa9's posts have been apologies about not reading coupled with whining about people voting her, which put her on a whole nother level from hiplop

she has promised to catch up this weekend. if she does and the content is okay, i will consider moving my vote elsewhere. if she doesn't, i'm not moving my vote.

This post is super townie

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: AA9

I request an official votecount

[CheekyTeeky]

I wish LLD would finish catching up I for one enjoyed it but she just disappeared:(

Same.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm waiting until LLD is up to date before moving my vote.

[CheekyTeeky]

Athough I lowkey townread Vax so I mean move my vote elsewhere.

[CheekyTeeky]

https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&sourc ... OD4xbU2nov

[CheekyTeeky]

If all the scum are low posters that would be funny. Feel better about Arc over Hip.

Low posters: AA9, Hiplop, Hyung, PP
Intermittent posters: Vecna, NSG, Vaxkiller

Whichever of you isn't scum, you're letting the team down.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hey scummies... Give me a day. Will catch up!!

Just got back and i am going to catch up in a bit. So will join the party

Except that she's been trying to catch up from page 11. If she struggled with 11....I don't see it getting better. A town player would've replaced out by now imo.

It's worth noting that AA9 being a potential mislynch is the only thing Pine seems to care about today. Surely his energy would be better spent convincing us Mutant is scum to which he still hasn't provided a reason beyond AA9 being a mislynch as a counterwagon to mutant. This change in Pine caring about the game started around the time LLD entered so I'm not sure if the coincidence is significant or not yet.

[CheekyTeeky]

Pine why do you town read Fire? Help me see it.

[CheekyTeeky]

LOL come at me. *wraps hands*

Omg 18 days is so soon. We should try guess the weight/date and lynch whoever is furthest XD

Vecna why do you prefer a Vax lynch to a Mutant lynch?

[CheekyTeeky]

The game state hasn't changed in the past ~6 days (even with a deadline extension). Why hasn't scum made sure this is lynched?

How do you know the game state hasn't changed unless you're keeping up? Give some reads plz.

[CheekyTeeky]

Brian why are you voting Reck?

[CheekyTeeky]

Reck how do you feel about Vax?

[CheekyTeeky]

Hiplop's entrance wasn't as bad as AA9. Hiplop hasn't been pushing any wagons so idk how he plans to win as lurking scum and posting in GD < AA9 posting in not the GD...

AA9 has had multiple bad entrances and is trying to push a wagon on me without really reading the game. She seems self-aware enough to try to look like she's catching up without actually doing so.

Idk what the resistance to her wagon means and if she is left, and she is town, there's another easy mislynch for scum tomorrow assuming Hip is town and gets lynched.

[CheekyTeeky]

Death cometh.

VOTE: Hiplop

I thought you gutread hip as town?

[CheekyTeeky]

Scum team is on my wagon.. We should keep an eye on everyone who is in my wagon.

ArcAngel9 - 5 (Vaxkiller, Gammagooey,
xRECKONERx, CheekyTeeky, PenguinPower)

Aside from PP I TR this wagon LOL.

[CheekyTeeky]

That wasn't the only point. But ok simplify my argument if it makes you feel better.

[CheekyTeeky]

Death cometh.

VOTE: Hiplop

I thought you gutread hip as town?

I did. I thought his posts were probably coming from town, but it was mostly off of a gut feeling and not of any real substance (which is typically how I treat players with similar playstyles as him).

I now feel like his play is probably scum indicative and explained why after I voted him.

I'm starting to feel like your play is scum indicative.

[CheekyTeeky]

Your lassiez faire playstyle is starting to look forced and your ISO isn't great, considering the amount of content you've produced.

Who are your biggest town reads and scum reads?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think Ali is probably town. And maybe Fire. I don't have any other townread I feel strongly about.

I agree on Ali but why do you townread Fire?

[CheekyTeeky]

Gamma I still think is town.

I keep flip flopping on this read. What do you make of his replace out and point to NSG posts?

It's strange that the two people NSG is scum reading are scum reading her in return.

[CheekyTeeky]

xRECKONERx
Gammagooey
T-Bone Lady Lambdadelta
Vecna
Vaxkiller
brassherald Alisae
----- Need to sort below
northsidegal
Pine
hiplop
Brian Skies
Gamma Emerald
hyung
------- Would lynch below
PenguinPower
mutantdevle
Firebringer
ArcAngel9

[CheekyTeeky]

i don't really think gamma is scum anymore.

Oh cool what changed?

[CheekyTeeky]

he kind of towned it up earlier, or at least started looking more like ton gamma. plus, i doubt that scum him would say what he did upon replacing out, seems genuine.

Reminds me of C9++ where Chip Butty replaced out looking townie but actually tried to town up the slot as scum. I've seen town gamma just go "sorry guys need to replace out" - his entrance is pretty bad also but Gamma is one of the slots I just can't ever read.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hm, doesn't look like any of our lynch targets really align. why do you townread alisae, vecna and reck?

i feel like you have too much lynchbait in your lynchpool.

I think AA9 and Mutant are most likely to be lynchbait, but seeing as it's D1, I'd rather mislynch them today then be left with them later. Call it policy.

Vecna is gut from the start, his reads aligned with mine and I think he's the kind of player that will get easier to spot as scum further down the line.

Reck I 180'd on because of his push onto AA9 and his posts can be seen from a messy town PoV. I feel like the interactions around my wagon fake hammer point to at least one scum {Pine, Reck, FB}. I've recently learned that scum are most likely to stay off mislynch bait especially when there's suspicion around the wagon so that intensifies my Reck TR and drops Brian down for me.

Alisae will also become more obvious but I just feel like she's not driving an agenda. I did when she first replaced in, but I town read Brass slightly and kinda feel like her playstyle is more "too scummy to be scum" than mutant if that makes sense?

[CheekyTeeky]

so would you say you've come to a conclusion on him?

do you think that i should change my mind on my read there?

No like I said, I keep flip flopping. I'm going to try harder to sort my unsorted in a bit. I'd just like other people to give their opinions so it makes it easier

[CheekyTeeky]

That is not how lynchbait works.

Only the dumb monkeys take the bait. You seem to want to eagerly grab for it.



Be a smart monkey. Run away with the bait.

Your brain is 3 big 5 me.

[CheekyTeeky]

I would most like a Fire lynch but I'm scared he'll hate me forever so he gets a 1 day pass. I'd compromise with AA9 or Mutant. All the people complaining about the day not ending yet could just vote AA9 to get the day over with.

Pine jumping from Mutant to Vax doesn't instill confidence in a lynch going through today, seeing as he's holding most of the influence around here. LLD needs to put down a vote too.

4 days left?

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah Vax is super town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I've recently learned that scum are most likely to stay off mislynch bait especially when there's suspicion around the wagon so that drops Brian down for me.

???

You staying off the AA9 wagon when it was under suspicion pings me given you've been happy following everything else.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm excited NSG is here and playing XD

[CheekyTeeky]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me that Pine puts out reads like a blind sniper.

[CheekyTeeky]

man who even cares about justin bieber
anyone trying to use him or his music as a general indicator of

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is so out of touch with like everything

Wtf even is this.

[CheekyTeeky]

Can we lynch AA9 now?

[CheekyTeeky]

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Pine

[CheekyTeeky]

xRECKONERx
Gammagooey
T-Bone Lady Lambdadelta
Vecna
Vaxkiller
brassherald Alisae
----- Need to sort below
northsidegal
Pine
hiplop
Brian Skies
Gamma Emerald
hyung
------- Would lynch below
PenguinPower
mutantdevle
Firebringer
ArcAngel9

When did I change from scum to town for you, cheeky?

After you drunk posted.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hey pine. Why are you scum reading me so hard?

Because AA9 was a counter wagon to mutant, who was a counterwagon to you...or something something something vote Pine.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm dont have a read on pine, so no.

Tell me more. What reads do you have?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: AA9

Couldn't have said it better my self.

[CheekyTeeky]

I can't wait to flip arc and analyze the resistance to it tonight.

I can't wait until you give any kind of rational analysis.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh good she does read. Ali she voted me, does that mean we town read her now?

[CheekyTeeky]

Why am I scum AA9?

[CheekyTeeky]

I am bleeding town
My motive says it. My behavior says it.

VOTE: AA9 for best comical post.

[CheekyTeeky]

you'd think someone who joined 6 years ago wouldn't make posts that sound so blatantly scummy

...because that is what I think. I think there's a burden of proficiency for scum play and that disconnected town is more likely to play like this. scum partners would probably have had some effect on her by now.

I think this is called WIFOM.

[CheekyTeeky]

Vecna can you explain why you initially thought Vax was scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Hyung I believe!

[CheekyTeeky]

Brian and anyone else pushing for Hiplop. No. He is getting force replaced. Please choose an alternative wagon.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't mind being lynched if that means avoiding a nolynch after this god forsaken day if we can get people to consolidate on me that would be good. I feel like scum and lurkers have derailed any chances of a scum lynch today anyway and I wouldn't be a big loss nor would this game be a big loss to me.

So yeah let's talk about getting our votes together asap.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hi Titus. Glgl.

[CheekyTeeky]

No LLD can be useful. LLD if you could finish catching up and post a summary of your reads that would help a lot with deadline looming.

[CheekyTeeky]

Awesome ty!

[CheekyTeeky]

I have faith she's going to carry town atm.

[CheekyTeeky]

I have faith she's going to carry town atm.

U have bad reads too

Yeah that worked to confuse the shit out of me once. Not anymore friendo.

[CheekyTeeky]

U have never played against scum me lol

I was referring to this game but uh yes I have.

[CheekyTeeky]

Who did you replace?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok. Do you have meta on Vecna? Why do you think he's scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

I would prefer AA9. I don't get much info out of hyung at this stage.

[CheekyTeeky]

North would you vote AA9?

Pedit BB he's casing the person you're voting in those posts.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: AA9

[CheekyTeeky]

Gooey you could just vote AA9.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah but why has it stalled out? It's a high info flip.

[CheekyTeeky]

New wagons aren't going to tell us shit except add more shit to sort if the wagon flips town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Like wagoning me, AA9 or mutant will give you guys the most info rn

[CheekyTeeky]

So you're calling the scum team hyung, Vax and bb?

[CheekyTeeky]

I lost track of all of my reads
Thats probably a bad thing

You town read me and want to lynch AA9.

[CheekyTeeky]

i dont see why UT, being lazy, creates a PT with Vecna to post votecounts
if he's scum he just posts them in the scum PT

Nice point.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Northsidegal

In regards to the VC thing I think Vecna likely town for it. If he was using his VC for scum deception purposes I don't think he would've been so obvious with his abuse of power/memeing early game. I agree that it only really serves as a way for Vecna to give his vote but think it also gives the game another layer of added WIFOM.

I'm rejecting this unless he starts doing towny things.

Hey Brian are you town reading NSG today? You seemed to think she was pretty scummy yesterday and hopped on her at least twice.

I remember the second quote pinging me at the time.

Would the existence of a BP role imply other shooting roles? The lack of deaths makes me think not, Brian can we have a full flavour claim from you please?

[CheekyTeeky]

After revisiting her interactions, I do think NSG could be town here.

Can you point to the interactions that led you to believe this?

[CheekyTeeky]

i can already tell this game is going to take a lot out of me.

What do you make of Pine using his RB on you as a guilty? How do you feel about the other votes on your wagon?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think someone mentioned gamma being likely scum. I don't understand why BBmol would replace in just to bus his buddy. There was definitely something dodgy about how the wagon went from zero to 100 near EOD when it looked like it was previously impossible to lynch scum.

I think this makes it likely scum was off the wagon, with maybe one max on it, likely near the tail end of the wagon.

[CheekyTeeky]

PRAISE BE TO REPUBLICAN JESUS THAT'S A FUCKIN LYNCH

OFFICIAL MODERATOR VOTECOUNT 10 OF 11

Alisae
ArcAngel9 - 2 (Cheeky, NSG)
BBmolla
Brian Skies
CheekyTeeky
Firebringer
Gammagooey - 1 (ArcAngel9)
hyung - 4 (LLD, Alisae, mutantdevle, Brian Skies)
Lady Lambdadelta
mutantdevle
northsidegal
PenguinPower
Pine
Titus
Vaxkiller - 1 (Vecna)

Vecna - 9 (Firebringer, BBmolla, Pine, Gamma, Vaxkiller, hyung, Titus, Penguin Power, xRECKONERx)

xRECKONERx

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch
Deadline in (expired on 2018-05-04 18:00:00)

As the vecna wagon seemed to come out of nowhere, I'd say Hyung was not a counter. Fire, BB, Pine likely town. Titus, PP, Reck are in the suspect spots. PP probably the worst for lurking until jumping on EOD.

NSG, Brian make sense as scum buddies off the wagon. AA9 probably town as much as I dislike her personal attacks. LLD, Ali and Mutant need further investigation.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: NSG

[CheekyTeeky]

Ohh now I am likely Town cheeky?
:rollseyes:

Shush D1 was a nightmare. Now we have real content.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky, you didn't answer this.

Why is it important? I just remember that it did ping me. Likely felt disingenuous and spews TMI in retrospect.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky, you didn't answer this.

Why is it important? I just remember that it did ping me. Likely felt

disingenuous

and

spews TMI in retrospect

.

Why do you think either of these things?

Ew.

[CheekyTeeky]

Are you going to answer the question or not?

You didn't answer mine so...

[CheekyTeeky]

Are you going to answer the question or not?

You didn't answer mine so...

What did I not answer?

How is this important? And Ive given you as much as is genuine without forcing myself to provide extra reasons. I just remembered I felt a certain way after vecna flip and am sharing my opinion. Your push back at me is ridiculous.

[CheekyTeeky]

pirate mollie is replacing ArcAngel9

this is a choice I have made, not one ArcAngel9 made.

Thank you.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm voting NSG because she's ignoring me. I've given her opportunity to openly analyse her wagon and rather than proving her PoV is townie she's flipping town off so you can say I'm justifing a bs wagon but you're going to need to point out how NSG is town based on her responses today instead of turning the tables on me after you rush to defend NSG after weakly scum reading her D1.

[CheekyTeeky]

{CheekyTeeky, PenguinPower, Pine, Alisae, Titus, Brian Skies}

Explain why Pine is claiming roleblocker as scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

Right...

[CheekyTeeky]

Right...

Thoughts on 2565?

Will come back to this in a day or so. Only have time for shallow responses rn.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why would there be 3 protective roles and no kill? That boggles my mind but I have no experience with modding so I'm going to try to meta the mod, but like rationally too many protectives is a yuck factor to me.

[CheekyTeeky]

Not going to try*

[CheekyTeeky]

Third? Only one has been claimed, I'm suggesting a second could exist.

Roleblock & BP makes two no?

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky the fact that you still have your vote on me for "ignoring you" doesn't sit well with me.

I think you're scum it sits fine from my pov. You'll also see my lean towards you being scum after brian vote hopped onto you the second time.

The more brian posts though the more I think mutant is your partner if you're scum because of your early defense of him.

I think there's enough info for a quick lynch not to matter today tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's like you're trying to move the wagon from you onto me, while at the same time trying to draw out another claim as you do so.

I don't see this at all.

[CheekyTeeky]

or scum saw the no kill and pine jumped in with a bs claim to force brian to claim

Really? How do you propose we deal with Pine tomorrow if she flips town?

[CheekyTeeky]

In a 'this is probably caught scum and I feel like taking the risk' sort of way.

I'm not seeing this either lmao.

[CheekyTeeky]

i have a feeling that pine/brian and the Truth of What Happened will sort itself out after a nsg flip eventually

You mean like post game after scum win? Thats going to take 3 potential mislynches to get to the bottom of your thinking. I know I town read you for some reasons but imma have to look back when I have more time, particularly if we do flip NSG.

[CheekyTeeky]

can we vote to decrease the night deadline btw

Why do I get the image of you rubbing your hands together in eager anticipation.

[CheekyTeeky]

no it's not

we have a dead scum + a no kill

we lynch NSG. we get info. scum have to worry about at least one power role between {Pine, Brian}. so theyre forced to kill at least one of them at some point

True.

Pedit yeah I know just thought I'd share the lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh I missed you voting me

Yeah this game has been particularly shitty for me from the start so that's not a big stretch only it is because we both know you know better than that.

[CheekyTeeky]

In a 'this is probably caught scum and I feel like taking the risk' sort of way.

I'm not seeing this either lmao.

Well, that's pretty much what Reck's been preaching all day.

So if you don't agree with me, then it's probably a

you

problem.

Unless you just don't think he's townish, in which case, sure? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

To be clear I was pointing out that you seem to be misinterpreting people's posts.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh I missed you voting me

Yeah this game has been particularly shitty for me from the start so that's not a big stretch only it is because we both know you know better than that.

Why should I know better for you but you shouldn't know better for me?

I don't have mechanical shade on me. Also you aren't very confident in your reads either so it's pretty likely you're scum with a strange way of adjusting your reads, like how can you come into today still fine with your reads after being wrong on vecna? Gamma replacement being towny makes me also hate your approach to that slot early game. There's more to my read than you're acknowledging particularly from yesterday.

[CheekyTeeky]

I’m trusting Pine on you NSG

VOTE: NSG

this progression is weird but whatever

hail machiavelli

Oh here's another reason to TR you.

[CheekyTeeky]

To be clear I was pointing out that you seem to be misinterpreting people's posts.

Not really?

I would point out how I'm right but I can't be bothered?

[CheekyTeeky]

I wasn't wrong on Vecna. That's factually incorrect. I had him in my "who's left" pool, unlike you who had him in your townreads.

But you showed your disapproval of Pine encouraging a wagon on to him?

Yes I was wrong and now have egg on my face, plus if I was scum I'd probably be bussing him lmao

[CheekyTeeky]

back when i had ample free time in college and no real commitments and was playing 5-10 games at once

Respect++;

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok I'm done here. I'll be VLA for the next couple of days but will check in from time to time so like pseudo-VLA.

Glgl

[CheekyTeeky]

Even if you're all still going to lynch me the day should not end before Cheeky gets back.

Fine.

UNVOTE:

I intend to vote you on my return but I'm giving you time to scumhunt. Glgl. Hint: it's not me.

[CheekyTeeky]

Push away NSG, what can I do for you today?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh man Reck has me so pocketed I'm scum reading all the people pushing him :/

NSG being quiet makes me feel like when she comes at me it's going to be epic. Noone gets me mislynched more effectively than NSG...although that's town NSG XD. I don't understand how straight AtE is saving her ass right now.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't think I've mislynched you as town before

You've incorrectly read me more than you have correctly read me when we were both town. In be yourself mafia you said that you were still reeling from mislynching me and that you were scared of doing so again. Good for you lynching scum? Not sure how that adds anything to this argument. Are you saying that I'm playing the same as I did in those 3 pages I was part of?

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky would like you to answer those last questions I asked you and also why you said I was "flipping town off".

Sure. I'm not scum I think you're scum is the summary.

[CheekyTeeky]

How is it my fault that we've only had 3 games as town together? In all 3 you were happy to lynch me. In 2/3 you actively pushed for my lynch. There is literally nothing recent because we've not been town together since. I think town you takes a lot longer to read me as town, and town you doesn't adjust your read strangely mid day as I pointed out at the time and to which you never responded.

[CheekyTeeky]

You're the third person to say I'm ateing. How?

You didn't answer this.

Saying don't lynch me because I'm town and will win the game for you is AtE.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not saying you can't read me. You're the one that has twisted this argument to this point based on some throwaway comment about expecting you to wall me to death with why I'm scummy. I think you're scum and when I can be bothered I will have good reasons grouped together to show you how I thought this D1 and how it has been strengthened by the lolguilty on you.

[CheekyTeeky]

NSG I'm trolling you because you're barking up the wrong tree. The questions you're asking me aren't helping me read you at all they're just nitpicking at my posts that I don't see benefit anybody in anyway because I'm town. I will not be answering your questions.

If you're town, please look for scum elsewhere so a) we can read you and b) we find actual scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Mutant

[CheekyTeeky]

Cake or death?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: NSG

[CheekyTeeky]

NSG the way you pegged mutant as town so early after he intentionally played against his town meta, reads as TMI. Idgaf about the mechanical shade reck is trying to throw on you.

Can you please talk to me about your LLD and Reck read progressions? I also remember you defending the Tbone/LLD slot early on.

[CheekyTeeky]

Mutant is being deliberately weird I'm pretty sure, not sure why

Mutant is being deliberately weird I'm pretty sure, not sure why

How can you tell it's deliberate? Are you implying he's likely town acting weird?

i'm not sure if he's town acting weird, but i'm pretty sure he's acting weird intentionally – this isn't him playing a natural scumgame trying to look town, which i've seen before.

^^ roughly 9 of those are real, the rest are random.

Why are NSG, xRECKONERx and Vaxkiller town?

are you not townreading me, or did you just want his explanation?

^^ roughly 9 of those are real, the rest are random.

Why are NSG, xRECKONERx and Vaxkiller town?

^^ roughly 9 of those are real, the rest are random.

So, which ones aren't random?

I will truthfully and honestly claim my exact role: that includes flavour, function, any PTs, any scum buddies, if anyone can correctly identify which of those 9 players are legit reads.

my initial guess was that everything in orange aren't the legit reads and of the ones left it's truthful based on color and not based on text. that'd be 10 players not counting you, though.

here's another example, i guess (i never intended to start hard defending t-bone like this but -shrug-) - t-bone just laughs at cheeky's inconsistencies. does scum react like this? i would figure that scum would just take the opportunity to start or strengthen a push on cheeky by quoting them along with a vote or something and being like "look at these obvious contradictions, cheeky is just making things up as it suits her", whereas i could definitely see town seeing something they see as an obvious inconsistency and just pointing it out and laughing.

Spoiler:

Are you guys just PLing me for being a VI or do you care to add reasons?

I like wagons. You refused to join mine on brass and used a yucky FoS instead, so I'm joining yours. You have like 3 or 4 votes...why care so much?

Because I can't assess votes I don't get reasons for. Why are you shading so much?

VOTE: Tbone

Are you guys just PLing me for being a VI or do you care to add reasons?

I like wagons. You refused to join mine on brass and used a yucky FoS instead, so I'm joining yours. You have like 3 or 4 votes...why care so much?

Because I can't assess votes I don't get reasons for. Why are you shading so much?

VOTE: Pine

But it is hilarious.

@tbone – I'd like to clarify that throughout none of this have i had even a mild scumread on you – i still would most likely not vote you over other people, and if you've interpreted anything that i've said to you as some sort of attack or scumread then you've misinterpreted there.

[CheekyTeeky]

Also Mollie has my vote for the day so...

Oh no...

So mollie replaced in and decided to drag his buddy into the spotlight for an EOD scum quicklynch?

[CheekyTeeky]

Literally classic conf bias "this person who was corrrect on the read i was wrong on must be scum and already knew the answer".

That's not what it was at all - I said THE WAY you did it so quickly read like TMI. Ego battles with you are grating and obscure the point of our interactions.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Alisae

[CheekyTeeky]

NSG is town. She wouldn't be this self-inflated as scum imo. Also unless she's improved a lot, she generally doesn't show convincing emotion as scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't think Cheeky knows what it means to have TMI (she said it to me regarding my Vecna read although a quick search of Vecna's earlier posts shows why I said what I did) and she's just throwing it around. Does this make her scum? Idk.

I have no idea why people town read this.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm fine with a penguin lynch.

Pedit I don't think scum Brian claims 1-shot BP to save town NSG. It doesn't make sense as SvT imo.

[CheekyTeeky]

NSG is town

Also, as it stands, NSG town kinda sorta pretty much points toward Brian town.

Yes I agree. It's either TvT or SvS and bravo if it's the latter because I'm ruling that out to save myself a headache.

[CheekyTeeky]

and, what's up with the alisae vote? i don't disapprove necessarily, just wondering.

I just think her stances haven't made any sense. I'm not going to quality post until the game is smaller tbh.

Pretty happy with either lynch.

VOTE: Penguin

[CheekyTeeky]

Also Mollie has my vote for the day so...

Oh no...

So mollie replaced in and decided to drag his buddy into the spotlight for an EOD scum quicklynch?

why is this "oh no"?

Because it means my Alisae read was likely bad.

Who are you scumreading today?

[CheekyTeeky]

Snip

Yeah, I can see how you would think that was TMI. I had a similar impression.

I'm just not entirely convinced NSG plays to this degree as scum. Especially since it's not like I've felt any of her pushes were scummy (this is mostly hindsight, I did think she was scummy at the time). I think her scumread on Gamma is okay if we assume she just didn't know when the game officially started. And I don't think either of her pushes on me were bad either.

I'm torn on her play but am lumping her, along with you into the town bucket. Push on me was weird, but more weird that a bunch of people didn't jump on me moreso than her interactions with me. I suspect scum have townread me somewhere and are afraid of their progression not lining up.

[CheekyTeeky]

FB did you send another invention?

[CheekyTeeky]

Why is BB so low NSG?

[CheekyTeeky]

FB did you send another invention?

Waiting for person who got it to claim

Cool. The last one got redirected right?

[CheekyTeeky]

So why would scum kill the RB instead of redirecting it?

[CheekyTeeky]

So why would scum kill the RB instead of redirecting it?

Maybe because they were worried of him blocking he redirect?
Wait .....

Which one would go first?
The redirect....

So either scums redirect is weak or.....


We have a dipshit Town redirector.

I hope weak scum

O_O?

[CheekyTeeky]

So why would scum kill the RB instead of redirecting it?

Do they have to be mutually exclusive?

What? I'm asking so we can brain storm.