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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 9:26 am

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I'm not all that great at reading screenplay. He seems kinda useless though. I don't think I'd shed any tears to see him dead.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 9:43 am

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I've ISO'd TW, Molla, and Mom and I'm not really against any of those hanging/getting shot. The town in me wants to read the 30+ pages but the lazy part of me doesn't want to. What do?

I might just YOLO shoot Chick after that whine.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 9:44 am

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What she did predict.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 9:45 am

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^
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 11:02 am

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PRICKS (and sometimes WANKERS and PRANKERS) members:
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Shooting any of these members will result in getting shot yourself.
In post 853, Ausuka wrote:1) there's very, very likely scum joining the PRICKS bloc and she seems to be a likely candidate.
Much like the whole "zomg if we shoot random it hurts scum when they get hit lol", evidence is pointing towards this being wrong. Blindly stating this was a reasonable point 20 pages back, now it's just pointless.
In post 855, Ausuka wrote:Yeah, because actually using the mechanics of this game and strying to kill scum is "being (an) edgelord." What have you done to advance the town wincon, anyway? All you've done is protect players who either wouldn't have been shot without severe repurcussions anyway, or are very possible scum. Get off your high horse.
If you actually thought town would gamesolve or actually achieve anything with their shots used in a solo manner...I think I'll stay up here thanks. The idea is to get people who are capable of a gamesolve mindset through to later days. Flat out you don't understand the mechanics, or if you do you're probably scum. Leaving more information in the hands of scum is...anti-town, and allowing town to actually explore the mechanics of the game is...wait for it...pro-town.

The idea in a game with fairly unique mechanics that you can actually advance the town wincon with "normal" scumhunting is sheer lunacy.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 11:08 am

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BTW, it may be worth suggesting that we create a list of people for D2 that must forfeit their shot in their first D2 post or get shot themeselves. I dunno if it's a great idea to publicise the list, but getting people to give up their shot somehow seems like a better start than blindly shooting into them.
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 11:40 am

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In post 875, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not all that great at reading screenplay. He seems kinda useless though. I don't think I'd shed any tears to see him dead.
We will see how useless I am tomorrow.
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:30 pm

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I just checked and found that of the 9 players with a shot left, 5 are PRICKS people and 4 aren't. Those 4 being:
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So what happens if we get to a stage where only PRICKS people have shots? Do we hold out for a week until the game ends, or do we shoot people we think are scummy?
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:33 pm

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I'd say shoot people who we think are scummy.

for the record, a slight apology to my PRICKS/WANKERS/PRANKERS:
a little overgamed again rn so I haven't gone through the effort of sorting everyone still alive. large games aren't really my jam when taken seriously (I thought this would be a meme too :P)
if we don't win early (seems unlikely)--lategame when there's fewer people we can sort in more detail I'll be more useful.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:35 pm

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In post 880, Sando wrote:BTW, it may be worth suggesting that we create a list of people for D2 that must forfeit their shot in their first D2 post or get shot themeselves. I dunno if it's a great idea to publicise the list, but getting people to give up their shot somehow seems like a better start than blindly shooting into them.
Seems sort of reasonable. But how could the list work if it's not publicized?


I'm not 100% sure, but I think BBMolla had been shot, and would also be a BP. I'll make the shot was valid and get back.

Pedit: I'm surprised by how easy it's been to get my head around this. I usually struggle with anything bigger than a micro.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:36 pm

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In post 883, the worst wrote:I thought this would be a meme too
Didn’t I get scum read for this?
See I’m not the only one.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:37 pm

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In post 883, the worst wrote:I'd say shoot people who we think are scummy.
Yep, end of day, chat with PRICKS and people you trust and if you get a quorum I think go for it.
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:38 pm

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In post 885, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 883, the worst wrote:I thought this would be a meme too
Didn’t I get scum read for this?
See I’m not the only one.
well when I saw ppl taking it srsly I took it srsly
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:39 pm

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@xyzzy just checking for good order--can I shoot you?
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:39 pm

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In post 174, Varsoon wrote:
Shoot: BBmolla


I realized something.
And this was an invalid shot. In between BBmolla shooting Hyung and it being resolved.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:41 pm

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the worst wrote:
@xyzzy just checking for good order--can I shoot you?
you're certainly welcome to try, but it won't have any mechanical effect on the game and won't count as having used your shot.
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:42 pm

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Sorting this player list is a nightmare but here we go

Town Bloc > ie. Shooting here warrants a shot from whoever's online


Taly - Probably the most constructive player in the game, has been sensible, made realistic arguments for who's town or scum (and is trying to sort people as town as well as scum), plus about the only person who gave their reasons for shooting someone
Sando - Looking for town not just scum and I give that great credit in this mess
Theta Alpine - Came in late, would like to see more but has been thoughtful and considered and has put forward who he thinks is town as well
Ausuka - Like 547 and 843, and agree with the point about srceenplay (864)
Davsto - I like this one, feels like a strong town analyser to me

Weaker town/in the middle > Will not shoot today BUT would like to improve my read of before I'd town bloc them


StefanB - Constructive
Vaxkiller - Not ready to townbloc but I don't see much reason why he'd be scum either. I would like to see a readslist or something similar here just so I know what you're thinking
The Worst - Feels genuine to me
TheBrie - Yes I'd like to see more, but I like what analysis this one has posted


Weak scum (PLEASE INTERACT)


Austerity - Really hasn't said enough that I get info from and I don't like that
Chickadee - 846 / 856, claims that Nero will likely kill him from meta, yet doesn't use then expectation he's gonna die soon to actually contribute. Seems to be disengaging whilst claiming he isn't disengaging
Lovebird - Not a fan of anything she's said, really
Wingedcatgirl - ANOTHER low energy player. Ughhh

Momrangal - Really not sure what to think on this one... null (can someone tl;dr the debate around her pls)
Nero Cain - Waiting on the replacement to be active before moving this off null

Stronger Scum Reads AND Anti-Town Players


Srceenplay
- Anti-town. The everyones town joke was passable at first, but 411, 434 and his shot indicates an anti-town mindset. Can't reach D2
Not Mafia
- Seems to not give a shit, the king of all lurkers, known from meta as an anti-town player in general who can't be trusted D2

Iconeum - Anyone who refuses to read people (265) and scumreads explanation (702) is a red flag for me
Randomigdet - Where are you? 3 nothing posts
Archwing - Has only posted to complain about the length of the game and moan, to the point where I'd forgotten he was in the game
BBMolla - The above two points apply

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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:42 pm

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And yes, I am aware that I have way too many scum reads atm
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:43 pm

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Varsoon was the next one to be shot. I'd be suspious about this, except his shooter is now dead town, and thus couldn't have been shooting him to stop him shooting BBmolla successfully.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:43 pm

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In post 886, Sando wrote:
In post 883, the worst wrote:I'd say shoot people who we think are scummy.
Yep, end of day, chat with PRICKS and people you trust and if you get a quorum I think go for it.
Aye I think this is the right strategy, discuss among PRICKS where we should put our shots
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 887, the worst wrote:well when I saw ppl taking it srsly I took it srsly
In post 888, the worst wrote:
@xyzzy just checking for good order--can I shoot you?
Lol
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 895, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 887, the worst wrote:well when I saw ppl taking it srsly I took it srsly
In post 888, the worst wrote:
@xyzzy just checking for good order--can I shoot you?
Lol
always a relevant question.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 1:42 pm

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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 1:45 pm

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hold on
wait a minute
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2018 1:46 pm

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I can't figure out how to make the YouTube link work

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