Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

[MOMOMEN]

I think mutant should be the lunch, then nm, then Alonzo.

[jjh927]

Wagon up then

[mutantdevle]

Tbh I think I prefer NM > Alonzo > mutantdevle.

I don't know why though.


Also, I can't actually remember why anyone, other than pintu, is scum reading me?

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: MutantDevle

[MOMOMEN]

no point dragging this day out idt, once everyone's checked in lets lynch NM alonzo or mutant honestly I couldn't care less which

[jjh927]

Remember to declare intent to L-1 this time around to give mutant the chance to claim

[Sando]

Okay. I've done a lot of reading since last night

These are the people I don't think I ever want to lynch:
Pintu, Oxy, Quick, Sando

These are the deep scum that I lose to:
Momomen, Fitz

And this is the lynch order I'm at right now

NM/Mutant -> JJ -> Alonzo

I'm ok with most of that, but I think we do JJ last, I have some thoughts percolating and it seems like people are pretty intent on this so I wanted to put that out there.

Also we're saying mutant/NM are independently scummy of each other? I'm confused as to what we're suggesting about NM based on Mutants flip, or don't we care and we think we've got 3 scum in the 4?

Sorry for lack of involvement today, work has decided to be a biatch, and I'm running on very little sleep and not much caffeine yet this morning. Should calm down in 48 hours or so.

[Eddie Cane]

well yes and everyone's just town other than them lol

[Oxy]

yeah, the reads are independent of one another.

[mutantdevle]

Remember to declare intent to L-1 this time around to give mutant the chance to claim

Yes, this please.

[mutantdevle]

I don't want to get fucked over by the very thing we could have destroyed yesterday.

[Quick]

VOTE: NOT MAF

Good vote here.

VOTE: NM

[Quick]

OK, way too many people agreeing on Scum which tells me something is amiss.

[Eddie Cane]

how hard can quick gamethrow: grand finale

[Oxy]

the same people who think that Mutantdevle is scum think NM is scum

So why are you voting NM?

[Oxy]

actually, I believe more people are calling NM scum than are calling mutant scum

[jjh927]

OK, way too many people agreeing on Scum which tells me something is amiss.

We're all agreeing on scum because PoE at this point in the game with this many obvtowns and conftowns is piss easy

[Quick]

the same people who think that Mutantdevle is scum think NM is scum

So why are you voting NM?

Pretty sure that doesn't necessitate I am wrong. At this point, it's a PL because he's not even playing. This is on top of the fact that the longer he survives, the more it hurts Town. I thought NM was somewhat readable, but the only way I can conclude NM is Town is if he is telling the truth. IDK if that is a tell for him or not, it might be, but IDK for sure.

[Quick]

OK, way too many people agreeing on Scum which tells me something is amiss.

We're all agreeing on scum because PoE at this point in the game with this many obvtowns and conftowns is piss easy

You don't have a PoE without a Scum flip.

[jjh927]

Yeah you do

[Quick]

Yeah you do

Explain.

[Sando]

actually, I believe more people are calling NM scum than are calling mutant scum

NM is a significantly safer safe-haven for people to vote-park and still look like they're contributing at this point.

What's mutant at right now, anyone know?

[jjh927]

Quick, I don't get why you think you can't do PoE without lynching a scum.

Mutant is L-2

[Quick]

Quick, I don't get why you think you can't do PoE without lynching a scum.

Mutant is L-2

Because no one is confirmed, for one. Secondly, as Town, we don't know what Scum are up to and we won't know what Scum are up to until we get a Scum lynch. When I say that I mean you can't assume your PoE is correct without something to look back on from Scum that can further provide evidence of other people's alignment. The basic rule before we get a Scum flip is to Scum hunt. Once you DO have a Scum lynched, then you can look at associations that player had with other players. You can't know someone is Town because sometimes Scum play very well. You could argue that a player is executing a lot of Town tells based on play, which fair enough, but it doesn't clear them from a PoE. The only way I think you can really have a PoE before a Scum flip is based on stances and/or votes, and that is quite the hary project to undergo without a Scum flip.

[jjh927]

We have 2 town confirmed and scum lynches don't confirm town any more than normal locktown reads