Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

[MOMOMEN]

we arent no lynching dumbass LMAO

VOTE: randomidget

[MOMOMEN]

Spam Squad: The name says it all; these will be our scum MVPs.
LicketyQuickety: The dude tries so hard, but he gets...off-track so easily. So easily letting emotions get the better of him. So easily going off on tangents. He's often mislynched, he's often wrong in reads, he's not often charismatic. He tries to improve, but he just keeps on focusing on all the wrong areas and whenever he finds a right one...it's not too difficult to send him back into the wrong areas. This is what we'll use if we're against him.

[MOMOMEN]

I want to lynch Alonzo, KTS wants to lynch Random, we are both also cool with a Devle push. I don't townread CJ sure we can lynch him I guess but like I said in the scummiest post of the game, we win by getting carried by the hider or we lose because the hider chokes / scum JKs well.

[MOMOMEN]

Are we town Quick?

[MOMOMEN]

Is Alonzo? Not gonna get into why the tracker statement is dumb idrc

[MOMOMEN]

Can you sum up the CJ push in one post?

[MOMOMEN]

Can you sum up the CJ push in one post?

I can do it in one word: Meta.

CJ doesn't seem confused the person in the game most familiar with him is pushing him hard, thats a thing

[MOMOMEN]

never bot hered logging into hydra but im kinda vla cause sick idk where kts is

[MOMOMEN]

we need the VC now

[MOMOMEN]

Why is this game bad Momo?

Forgive me If i was salty earlier. I think we need to discuss thangs
you online for a bit?

Decision Decisions

Momo still really pings me as scum, Dont fall for his Wolfin'.
Ceejay wagon is as thin as they come, I expect to see Sando and Momo join the Party any time now. =)

Quick- Appreciate the Evidence,have you Got a few posts from this game that Give insight into what hes thinking In this One?
If you have that, I will be your L-0 on the Ceejay wagon.

like 4 posts apart :/

[MOMOMEN]

i saw people posting about how act = town

its the opposite

scum is winning and the games dead asf and apathetic to ehll

scum is more likely to be active on a pure psychological basis, town is more likely to be unmotivated

[MOMOMEN]

Alonzo, CJ, Random/NM is a solve, but eh.

VOTE: Alonzo

[MOMOMEN]

Read page 9: Oxy and Quick are town. NM town lean actually. CJ and Mutant scum lean.

I can't do a proper catchup because some DUMBO didn't give me the hydra PW lmao.

Read Page 17: Sando, Oxy, Quick, slight NM town. CJ, Mutant, Worst, Ico scum lean. No idea on Pintu, Korina, Random, Alonzo

Caught up: Oxy and Quick are still town, so Sando either needs to fuck off with that or lose his town status. NM seemed townie from the couple posts they had, but its the weakest read possible and if trackvig chooses vig he should be shot tonight on policy. My reads are mostly still the same; CJ, Mutant, Worst, and Ico is my scum pool, and the fact KTS got to the same conclusion is awesome because I did NOT read his posts before catching up nor have we communicated aside from meming. I don't know how to read Korina aside from "annoying", Pintu seems very slight town I guess ???, I will need to check but if I'm remembering right Random dislikes scum so that's a thing for why he hasn't posted yet (not voting there today though because he's the only player in this game I have any respect for or knowledge of going into the game who knows maybe one of you will earn that by the end!), Alonzo is a scum lean I guess I didn't Tr any of his content and KTS has him as scum.

Okay. Explain how

Its fairly obvious that random/ico/cj isnt the scum team here.

is a good reply to

tw, random, alonzo, ico, CJ, mutant therefore contains the scum.

Explain where you took those 3 names, and actually explains what makes them "fairly obvious not the team" because aside from the fact cj and random are the least scummy in that pool imo i don't see anything that explicitly makes them not a team.

Sure, I suddenly SR CJ.

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: Alonzo

Sorry Quick.

[MOMOMEN]

Fitz in a town slot... worse replacements have happened.

[MOMOMEN]

AYY MY BOY

[MOMOMEN]

JJ I NEED YOU TO BE TOWN AND WIN THIS GAME WITH ME KTS FLAKED SO YOURE MY NEW HYDRA PARTNER

[MOMOMEN]

no its not he faked not knowing about nm hammering despite it being talked about many times

[MOMOMEN]

read my iso. that'll get you started. this is an easy read, there's almost no lengthy posts

[MOMOMEN]

i dont care enough about this game to wallpost

[MOMOMEN]

If you're changing your avatar you should use the picture that momo suggested as a banner for his team mafia team

link?

[MOMOMEN]

Is there anything good we can talk about on the forwards front while I work on the backwards and catch up?

not really. just catching up will help.

[MOMOMEN]

i don't think that'll look good sized down

[MOMOMEN]

Fear not quick, it looks as though your re enforcements are on there way.

Sandro and moms just suddenly realised that were stranded on random island. Now they both conveniently SR ceejay just in time for the new players arriving!

no comment on how this is an outright lie?

[MOMOMEN]

viewtopic.php?p=10111163#p10111163

JJ, reading this and a few pages onward should get you to town!Eddie. We can work from there.

[MOMOMEN]

Good job Mathdinkle!

[MOMOMEN]

@ MOMO

Hm

could it be the fact I quoted me scumreading CJ from my catchup post and in all reads lists after that

[MOMOMEN]

[quote="In post 2077, jjh927"][/quote]
yea.

[MOMOMEN]

CJ Mutant Alonzo sounds like a semi possible team

maybe NM somewhere there, who knows

[MOMOMEN]

i want alonzo today though. sando, are you gonna be an asset or an obstacle?

[MOMOMEN]

im ngl im paranoid of oxy because eddie said oxy and worst has a scum and forgot about it but meh not interested in pursuing that rn

[MOMOMEN]

page 11 good progress!

[MOMOMEN]

okay mod cleared c/ping logs from discord without timestamps, i dont think kts wants to post itg but here's stuff

earlier this phase:
rando and mutant are where ill go
from a quick skim
games sort of boring and lame, sorry im not playing too hot

yeah i just have
0 motivation to play

i think randommidget is an easy scum hit
then we can hit alonzo

usually i can see why shit town do something
there's like no town agenda in rm's posts

i guess
i just feel he's scum, and i can't really explain why lol
but we can push alonzo or devle

nah i can't really explain the random read, and i haven't been paying attention lol
alonzo would be a fine push
random wouldn't help the gamestate really

yesterday:
k time to read game
ok so
lets go balls to the walls
and powerlynch alonzo
<
redacted
>

today:
this village is so wolfy dude
holy fuck

ive only got 3 strong trs
thats so bad

oxy sando quick
dude im not gonna look for a deepwolf while everyone else is obvwolfing
fuck that

kts can live vicariously through me!

[MOMOMEN]

eddie will probably not be casing

[MOMOMEN]

Thanks for the constructive criticism, then. I'll try to take that advice into consideration in future games.

alonzo w

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: Alonzo

[MOMOMEN]

i have a surprise for you jj

[MOMOMEN]

i have a surprise for you jj

Is it that you SR CJ?

I lol'd ty

-

nah its OOG and sorry JJ not for a couple days.

[MOMOMEN]

i can't even get within a minute of your score lol

[MOMOMEN]

how caught up are you

[MOMOMEN]

what was funny?

[MOMOMEN]

Hit halfway and damn shit's exciting even if I know the result

[MOMOMEN]

Huh. I have a lot of stuff to process.

[MOMOMEN]

I don't consider that a crumb from the worst. Oxy might be scum who killed what thehy thought was a crumb and got a false positive.

[MOMOMEN]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[MOMOMEN]

I've done that before as scum and as town qhen I've got a good pr read lmao

but idc Alonzo lynch today anyways oxy ismt an option

[MOMOMEN]

I lied I'm using data waiting for the bus

Can you give an example of you doing that because I'm a sceptical person

too lazy. I think I did in penguin mafia.

[MOMOMEN]

So Alonzo, both replacements lock town us. Thoughts

[MOMOMEN]

Back to Alonzo

[MOMOMEN]

Town: Quick, MOMOMEN

Nah your predecessor's take on slayer's was all I needed lmao

HAHAHAHA you can read right?

[MOMOMEN]

I think ceejay is town, and Alonzo is just a wolf.

[MOMOMEN]

says who

[MOMOMEN]

ok but can you wage a war against me? Do you have the resources, The town red, the momentum?

we might have to thunderdome, oxy.

[MOMOMEN]

no

[MOMOMEN]

Unlike my other Momo I don't think CJ is town necessarily. I want Alonzo. Probably not happening today, but its the best lynch and it hits scum.

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: alonzoVOTE: alonzoVOTE: alonzoVOTE: alonzoVOTE: alonzo

[MOMOMEN]

are you trying to use our progression our reads as a way to push us.

okay lol.

[MOMOMEN]

since when

the way you make it out is me being facetious all game, but i can't even remember the last time i was genuinely arrogant. sometimes i joke, sometimes i act very firm, but you paint me in a sinister light consistently throughout the game. it's like trying to shade my person rather than shade my slot, and it's sort of crazy to even believe that that's a strategy.

make a proper argument, please?

[MOMOMEN]

Momomen vs Alonzo

Spoiler:

LOL.

whilst this is funny, can you check out alonzo for me, though. i don't think i'm being particularly unreasonable.

[MOMOMEN]

sorry, forgot the rest of my post.

Actually no.

Im not making that arguement yet... Im just pulling up posts that track your reads progression. You are jumping the gun there.

im probably not even gonna make that arguement because I actually dont wanna revisit most of your content unless I think Its AI

refusing to visit our content while also shading our slot with "pulling up our posts" is a strategy that only scum seem to pull on me this forum whenever i catch a wolf. nothing you've done in response to me has been any sort of townie.

[MOMOMEN]

what

[MOMOMEN]

alonzo is a wolf, and ceejay having grown so fast while i'm pushing this is an obvious wolf counterwagon.

please do not lynch ceejay. i have a godread on him. i will die if you lynch him irl.

[MOMOMEN]

you have a god read on cj?

Meta case like Quick?

i can't case. i can just godread.

[MOMOMEN]

i can compromise. i don't know if jj is town yet. i'll look in other slots, too.

[MOMOMEN]

the fact that quick likes a ceejay wagon is a good sign. the fact that he also says there's no resistance to it is also a good sign that i'm right on ceejay being town.

[MOMOMEN]

i've got a godread

[MOMOMEN]

What I am seeing is Town getting cold feet on CJ because Town gets STOOOPID near EOD.

yeah no this is wrong.

if a wagon is a wagon all the way to eod, and if it has absolutely no resistance, it's likely it's flipping town. my eod flips almost always end in a wolf so.

[MOMOMEN]

i've got a godread

Sorry but that counts for shit. If you are not going to actually back up what you are saying like other slots are doing, I don't want you in endgame. I mean what do you make of devles case? That case was better than ANYTHING you have done this game.

i'm defending town. what have you done but push against town?

the argument works both ways, bud. the only way you can back yourself up is with postgame, and i guarantee you won't have a fun time there with the way things are spiraling. my godreads are never wrong.

[MOMOMEN]

What I am seeing is Town getting cold feet on CJ because Town gets STOOOPID near EOD.

yeah no this is wrong.

if a wagon is a wagon all the way to eod, and if it has absolutely no resistance, it's likely it's flipping town. my eod flips almost always end in a wolf so.

LOL. I would normally agree with you but it's been like pulling teeth getting CJ lynched despite a very strong case from devle and my strong meta read on them. Try again. The wagon has stalled like 4 times at this point.

the wagon on d1 stalled even though it flipped villa.

[MOMOMEN]

i've got a godread

Sorry but that counts for shit. If you are not going to actually back up what you are saying like other slots are doing, I don't want you in endgame. I mean what do you make of devles case? That case was better than ANYTHING you have done this game.

i'm defending town. what have you done but push against town?

the argument works both ways, bud. the only way you can back yourself up is with postgame, and i guarantee you won't have a fun time there with the way things are spiraling. my godreads are never wrong.

You're defending Town without evidence. And the only way you can know I am pushing against Town is if you are red so that means pretty much nothing to me.

a godread is stronger than a cop.

[MOMOMEN]

you can try to ignore me, but you can't ignore a godread.

[MOMOMEN]

Quick

Everytime you let MOMO pull you in like that, you let him bury good town reads behaind pages and pages of his dogshit.

Chill

bookmarked for postgame

[MOMOMEN]

whos offended?

you lol

[MOMOMEN]

i think this is a good look for you though, and i'm not really interested in you, oxy, quick, or sando.

how do you guys feel on pint?

[MOMOMEN]

i think korina was super townie. fitz is okay. i don't know, don't like that.

who's vivi?

[MOMOMEN]

could always just cop out on not mafia

okay wtf i have to reread

[MOMOMEN]

yeah i could always just be wrong on ceejay which would be hilarious LOL

[MOMOMEN]

did learning that Vivi = Ceejay change your read?

no, i haven't read a single post by them.

[MOMOMEN]

no by the replacement

[MOMOMEN]

uh, oops quotes. dont know what happened

I almost want to say this is an LOL!Clear.

literally how

[MOMOMEN]

no by the replacement

You didn't read posts by ceejay, but you read posts by his replacement?

opposite

[MOMOMEN]

it came from my heart

[MOMOMEN]

the scum team is Alonzo mutant and x

[MOMOMEN]

Quick is still town. Pint and oxy are now conf town. Hm.

[MOMOMEN]

{Momo, Pint, Oxy}
{Quick}
Without isoing I'm comfortable with those 4 town. Theres 10 alive. Find 1-2 more town, and games over depending on if one of us 4 is tracker.
{Sando, Fitz} - still townie slots. need to review predecessors though for fitz and sandos iso. Games probably over just lynching below here tbh.
{JJ} Slightly pinged in catchup, overall still pretty townie. Random was very meh though.
{NM}
{Mutant, Alonzo}

[MOMOMEN]

-eddieposts

[MOMOMEN]

tracker has no reason to claim unless they have a guilty in which case they should probably

[MOMOMEN]

people were talking about tracker claiming such as literally in the post above. thanks for your retarded attempt at being funny.

[MOMOMEN]

no.

[MOMOMEN]

anyways looks like this game is likely over. I'm more paranoid of sando than fitz tbqh nuf probably never lynching either.

[MOMOMEN]

no, I dont rhink it's relevant and theres mo reason xcum him wouldn't

[MOMOMEN]

I think mutant should be the lunch, then nm, then Alonzo.

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: MutantDevle

[MOMOMEN]

no point dragging this day out idt, once everyone's checked in lets lynch NM alonzo or mutant honestly I couldn't care less which

[MOMOMEN]

do u like your surprise jj?

[MOMOMEN]

OK, way too many people agreeing on Scum which tells me something is amiss.

I'm going to talk to you like an equal once. I am not continuing to discuss this.

Yes, you can PoE before a scum flip. A scum flip is irrelevant for tow hunting. The paragon of 2017, Elliberreth, plays by townhunting and PoE, and sheeping his townreads (unless theres players he can read). This is not a debatable statement. Personal example: viewtopic.php?p=10045395#p10045395

We have 2 confirmed towns. We also have 1 universal town, you, and ourselves, and that leaves finding 1 town to break the game. Then theres the scummy trifecta. you'll notice every single player pretty kcuh outside of those 3 and you is pushing those 3. That cant be xcum pushing. Maybe we are wrong on 1 of the 3, but that's a problem for later.

Not Mafia is a fine lynch though.

[MOMOMEN]

Mutant isnt town. KTS and I did extensive metadiving. I'm confident. But yes, as I said I'm not overtly against a NM lynch. Just want a lunch soon to speed this game up.

[MOMOMEN]

Yes, I do mind.

[MOMOMEN]

No. Reading your posts makes me want to puke.

[MOMOMEN]

I'm starting to think Not_Mafia is not mafia

can you tell people to stop being daft and lynch mutant?

[MOMOMEN]

And also just engineered for you to survive a bit longer

what's bad about this?

[MOMOMEN]

I'm not opposed to a Not Mafia lynch. Please don't get that from my posts. I just think Mutant is a much better bet for scum and KTS checked out because ya'll annoyed him too mcuh but he agreed and wanted us to lynch Mutant sooner. In entire honesty, as much as I personally want Alonzo to be scum and he's the best bet for 3rd I'm less sure than I am on Mutant and NM so those two should go first. I don't think anyone really disagrees with this so whatever.

[MOMOMEN]

pinturicchio - lol
Quick - lol
Oxy - lol
Sando - Generally town processes. Town on pushes. I think this is the closest thing to likely sleeper scum but I don't think there's anything that makes me vote him this game. Definitely not before Alonzo NM and Mutant flip. I only say that because he's the only one of you players I think is competent enough to powerscum.

jjh927 - generally town catchup. gut pinged me a bit, eh. town.
havingfitz - townie predecessors. good catchup reads. wish he had more of a presence.

no chance i lynch the above tiers before these:

Not_Mafia - scumfuck
mutantdevle - scumfuck
Alonzo - scumfuck

[MOMOMEN]

Actually, pulled up my resesasrch notes

if not mafia's reads are good and realistic he's town
otherwise, scum
he only tries if he likes a game and why would anyone like this game so this apathy is possible
and its possible town him hammers two wagons he doesn't like anyways
BUT, he didn't last game

I think NM has realistic and good reads. Quick and me as town. Of course, I'm stretching. Still probably scum cause idk wtf the solve is if I'm wrong. But I'm gonna backtrack and say I want mutant today.

[MOMOMEN]

Well, I got a better idea: I could target Not_Mafia today; if he's town, scum will shoot him and both him and me will die, but that would be good since Not_Mafia being alive is bad for town. If he's scum, I'll die and he won't (or scum will jailkeep me) so he will be conf!scum in one case and in the other case scum either he is scum or scumteam jailkept me to make us believe he's scum (this would be the worst case scenario, but I would live another day as conf!town)

Scum are more likely to jail you if NM is town than if he's scum, unless NM is himself the jailer. We've basically gamesolved this and I think him being Jailer is their only hope.

If you assume 2 conf!town and 3 town in Sando, Quick and MOM, then you're left with 5 others. Within that 5 there'd be 3 scum and they need us to mislynch twice. You can see via that math that scum simply cannot shoot within the 5 since even if it kills the hider, they're leaving us 4 people with 3 scum in it and requiring 2 mislynches.

If NM is town then he's the easiest mislynch target in there. They can't let you clear him, and they can't kill him, so their only option is to block you. If NM is scum but not the jailer then they can block you but they're leaving a tracker up and once we hit the jailer then you'll conf!scum NM. If NM is the jailer they keep jailing you and we never hit the jailer, so we have to deal with that.

So,

assuming we're happy with the 5 scumpossibles being Alonzo, mutant, NM, JJ and Fitz

, then I think we:
Lynch mutant
Hide behind NM
Track NM

NM being out Jailer is the danger point, if they jail hider but jailer isn't NM then we just keep looking for the jailer to get a clear/confirm on NM. If NM is jailer scums only hope is to shoot the tracker. I'd expect that if NM is not the jailer, they simply let you conf!scum him and hunt the tracker hardcore.

Please note, all of this requires you to be fine with the bolded part, otherwise it doesn't work and should be ignored. If you think of those 5 there's definite town then that's not a big deal, but if you think of the town there's possible scum then yeah, this doesn't work.

Correct, but we don't need to target the Tracker. They can do their own thing and claim if they get something useful.

and LOL at hider saying who they hide behind. That's dumb. If they want to do that they should give multiple people they are hiding behind because if they just give one, then that's two Town for the price of one.

No, the point is that we WANT scum to kill Not Mafia if he's town and we know who he's targeting...

Sando - Generally town processes. Town on pushes. I think this is the closest thing to likely sleeper scum but I don't think there's anything that makes me vote him this game. Definitely not before Alonzo NM and Mutant flip. I only say that because he's the only one of you players I think is competent enough to powerscum.

I Feel the same way about devle. Tell me why devle doesn't fit this category.

I'm not going to give you a tryhard case. He is scum. You can listen to me or not, your vote isn't needed for this lynch. His CJ case and Pintu stuff should be enough to see it. Or, even how awful his recent reads list is. If you ctrl + f not_mafia in his iso, all of the results are general "i played iwth not mafia once and we had a great time lmao!" type stuff, or complimenting, etc. nothing about alignment at all. and he casually mentions a PL and then pushes it off and says he doesn't want it. now today he's acting like we should have done it sooner. its the standard day 3 bus. Even his goddamn recent reads post is awful.

They strike me as the only player that hasn't been confirmed as town who is capable of being this good at scum hunting.

This isn't even sensical. "He is the only not conf!town player who is good enough to scum hunt well therefore he is scum".

[MOMOMEN]

Declaring the hide behind NM is a good call here, I think

you didn't compliment my avi you bastard

[MOMOMEN]

And also just engineered for you to survive a bit longer

what's bad about this?

You'd understand if you knew Pint's main

If he's an alt he'd be banned for joining newbie games as a newbie

[MOMOMEN]

Oxy, Pintu, you cool with a Mutant hammer now? Sando can do the honors with NM.

[MOMOMEN]

[MOMOMEN]

I think everyone agrees that there's 3 scum in me, NM, Alonzo, Mutant, Fitz

I'd add you in there and take out devle and add sando. Otherwise, yeah, right on.

Not me?

[MOMOMEN]

Oxy, Pintu, you cool with a Mutant hammer now? Sando can do the honors with NM.

Oxy, Pintu, you cool with a Mutant hammer now? Sando can do the honors with NM.

Absolutely

above post was @ pint

I'm cool wit it

goin to bed make me happy and wake up to a hammer

[MOMOMEN]

I knew Mutant wasn't a tracker too, because this setup doesn't have scum trackers.

[MOMOMEN]

MOMOMEN since you're obviously not going to agree with me that it's you who has essentially outed/killed all our PRs, who do you think would somehow be figuring out all these PRs? This question sorta applies to everyone tbh because I don't know everyone in this game too well.

How did I out or kill TW? Scumreading him makes him less likely to be killed and I actively avoided wagoning him.

How did I out Pintu? Wait, I didn't, Pintu outed Pintu because scum jailed him.

How did I out JJ? Wait, I didn't, you did by fakeclaiming Tracker.

What PR did scum figure out, exactly?

[MOMOMEN]

Obviously, that's telling that the mafia are good PR hunters which is something at least.

Lol at thinking this is a thing.

[MOMOMEN]

Obviously, N_M was a problem but I expected there to be more support for him being lynched day 2 and even if I was to shoot him then who do I shoot after that?

Except

you didn't even push his lynch D2 and actively argued against it D1

?

[MOMOMEN]

Vig is such a dangerous role and, as many people like to remind me frequently, my reads are shit.

Except town!you has actually good reads.

[MOMOMEN]

The only other person I can think of that might be that good of a PR hunter is MOMOMEN.

And unfortunately, your case falls apart because simply researching my past discussions shows I think PR hunting is stupid and irrelevant and going into any of my past scum PTs shows I don't even try to look for or target PRs.

[MOMOMEN]

sando can you vot mutant and let nm hammer now?

[MOMOMEN]

Quick. Nothings undeclared or subtle.

[MOMOMEN]

It may or may not be, but that's the decision we're going with.

You're wrong and I'm not going to go along with it, hopefully I can convince people today, otherwise I hope you learn from this in the post-game.

No, hes not. I'll vote Alonzo if the ICs do but Mutant is the optimal lunch.

Need 1 more reason?

I can read JJ and hes town

need 1 more?

all that's going to happen is mutant is gonna fake a guilty tomorrow and itll be a headache

also

this is technically a safer xcum bet than Alonzo (I say technically
because its confirmed)

he clearly claimed to get the cc lmao this isnt a hard game

[MOMOMEN]

VOTE: mutantdevle

[MOMOMEN]

As I said. I get your argument. Better to let JJ (or mutant)get a result etc. It isnt worth leaving the confusion alive. It isnt worth dealing with the guilty claim happening tomorrow. It isnt worth the Pintu.

[MOMOMEN]

One sec.

[MOMOMEN]

Maybe Sandos scum. Doubt it. Its between him and Fitz if Alonzo oR NM flip town

[MOMOMEN]

nope.

[MOMOMEN]

uou know what I dont fucking care wagon Alonzo I just want this game done

[MOMOMEN]

doesnt account for scum sando and in a wild universe with town mutant wr autolose because I dont vote you over him ever plus the likely partners are a tiny bit different

mutant is still the right lunch

but I'm hammering Alonzo when the ics switch

[MOMOMEN]

wow, mutant was scum like we've been pushing since day 1? what a goddamn shocker!

[MOMOMEN]

if Alonzo flips scum Fitz is confirmed town and you NEVER vote him this game. his Alonzo vote yesterday never comes from partner fitz.

[MOMOMEN]

how sure are we quick is still town and not scum playing up the idiot dynamic?

just doing the standard double checking

[MOMOMEN]

Sando - This is so obviously town.

I dont rhink this wording is about a partner haha

[MOMOMEN]

I'm maybe 50/50 between mutant and Alonzo for the jailkeeper fwiw

I think this is a comment that is too sure to come from Town.

lold

dont rhink anythin stops me from lynching Alonzo into not mafia

[MOMOMEN]

You're a troll

VOTE: OXY

Prove it.

good players like you?

[MOMOMEN]

fitz doesnt bus friends

[MOMOMEN]

fitz doesnt bus friends

what would fitz do if given a choice between busing mutant and busing alonzo?

fair enough.

[MOMOMEN]

Pintu NM is strong town why?

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Actually, pulled up my resesasrch notes

if not mafia's reads are good and realistic he's town
otherwise, scum
he only tries if he likes a game and why would anyone like this game so this apathy is possible
and its possible town him hammers two wagons he doesn't like anyways
BUT, he didn't last game

I think NM has realistic and good reads. Quick and me as town. Of course, I'm stretching. Still probably scum cause idk wtf the solve is if I'm wrong. But I'm gonna backtrack and say I want mutant today.

so basically what i said?

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tbh reread pisskop

scummish

korina still p townie

i will talk about doing fitz over sando or nm

but i want alonzo today please )

VOTE: Alonzo

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No I don't need to find evidence LOL its a well known fact that fitz doesn't bus and you can go look at any of his scum games yourself if you want proof. if alonzo and mutant are his partners then yea he is kinda forced to bus so regardless this doesn't really say much about his alignment now that i think about it

so here's another angle

kts was very confident korina was town

i don't overtly disagree with scum!fitz, but we are doing alonzo first.

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Cool. Vote me or stop talking to me please.

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and we are back to gamethrowing lock town. thanks.

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Cool. Vote me or stop talking to me please.

Rest assured, I will likely vote you in F3.

oog: lol i just love how you know you'll be alive in f3 despite being the most global townread day 1. scum's wifoming, right? no other reason you'd be alive.

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ftr fitzs last posts are scummish. idc. vote Alonzo today please n thanks.

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ftr fitzs last posts are scummish. idc. vote Alonzo today please n thanks.

In an independent "I still stand by not S+S" way? Or in a "yeah could be that Alonzo guys buddy" way?

never be partners is weaker then when i first posted but i'm commenting on that in isolation. i get why people are fosing fitz. alonzo reds and we do that first.

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I am pretty sure Quick is the worst player I've ever played with. Like there's newbies, but being new isn't the same as being outright awful despite 100+ games of experience.

@NM, Mafia Championships is the MU crossover event. Sometimes there's decent games, overall the quality of play is usually very low in most games because most sites don't have anyone actually good at mafia to rep. I declined my home site but there's other good players there so they're fine.

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And Quick, JJ lock townread my predecessor. This is nothing I could have influenced and he's very paranoid of me (see: hydra game). You're going to be kept alive to vote me and gamethrow LyLo if we mislynch here or tomorrow. Just so you know. I know you don't care because you've probably done it lots of times and always just write it off as the other person being shit or forget about it, so you're probably fine, but I thought I'd post this anyways.

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Also, Pin vs mutant is probably TvT.

Your Mutant stuff was pretty good up until this, the point you started fighting me on Mutant because you townread him posting a lot of words mixed with some AtE.

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Of the top 4

Oxy Null town ++
Devle Null town +
Quick Null town (strong)
The Worst Null scum ++

sidebar: townleaning partner.

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ICs, can one of you demand Quick sheeps you tomorrow and just promise to look into me? I don't want to get quickvoted in Lylo by the village's inbred cousin who lives a few miles out of town but is still technically in the county.

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I think Fitz literally just scum claimed. Lol.

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mfw yall quick lynch before I post so I dont gwt to be on all 3 scum lynches

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If MOMOMEN is scum: he kills you and votes Sando with me and NM.

nah I probably would have voted not mafia. still going to hit you can go first I guess.

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IDRC who we lynch between Momo and NM. Both don't explain shit.

like seriously, this has been one of the least enjoyable games I've played but an addendumnis pintu and oxy earned a lot of respect points

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I've replaced out exactly twice and it's only been to prevent myself from getting too toxic. I find it hard to believe someone's played over 100 games of mafia and still makes a post ike "I dont care who we lynch in lylo".

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I was going to hide behind Sando, so from scum perspective, I was going to confirm Sando as town, so scum had to kill him

but good thinking quick

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not mafia is still the scum

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Uuuuuuh right again NM, so back to my original post: Quick could be scum.

At this point, Sando's dead confirms that MOMO is town from my point of view. Only Quick or NM would do that kill (since NM could also had thought that MOMOMEN and Sando would be voting him and I could change my mind, so kill Sando and me and try to 1v1 either Quick or MOMOMEN in LyLo).

MOMOMEN what do you think?

it's still not mafia. and this should be proof to quick becUse you've stated me as conf town so me voting him makes him the lynch, but you cant reason with stupid so what ever. good luck convincing quick though

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I mean hes ignoring the ic in mylo and trying to find a way to scumread him idk what to say to that it's basically mathblade minus the good xcum game and minus being a decent person to talk to oog

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Why do I feel like the Sando kill only comes from NM or Pint...

NM, if you are hider, you really need to say something.

maybe because the above post explains why the Sando kill only comes from NM or Pint!

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throwing an idea that was immediately thrown out by the above person, and then immediately contradicting it by voting said person!

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

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but yes quick, sando, oxy, pintu, cj, and the worst were allpocketed by us, but we couldn't fool the legendary licketyquickety, you're a global town read alive in lylo for pure wifom!!! by me even though sando and not mafia were about to cross vote (because yknow people are unpredictable and wifom always wins!!), and we all pale in comparison to your scumhunting glory

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

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And lol, having accurate reads is not a reason to TR someone.

where on EARTH did I say you have accurate reads

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

what do you mean TOP priority? it's my priority because they're confirmed town and we literally cannot lynch xcum without their vote. you know they dont have an agenda. basic theory questions should be asked in mafia discussion in the future.

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And lol, having accurate reads is not a reason to TR someone.

where on EARTH did I say you have accurate reads

No, I am saying that would be the only reason to TR you. You never explained any of your reads. You're as bad as NM in that regard.

so in conclusion, I have accurate reads. correct. what about the fact our reads have been what allowed us to lynch each xcum,we tried doing mutant d1 and it almost happened, every single one of our trs has ended up town? wait no that's not a reason to tr someone, scum bus. hm. well,guess we did nothing protown this game. time to throw in the towel

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

yes, because you're quickvoting the person almost every single dead townie and the ic have called town in mylo. among other reasons. you deserve to be condescended to.

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

yes, because you're quickvoting the person almost every single dead townie and the ic have called town in mylo. among other reasons. you deserve to be condescended to.

And what do you deserve for being an asshole?

to never play with you again

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And lol, having accurate reads is not a reason to TR someone.

where on EARTH did I say you have accurate reads

No, I am saying that would be the only reason to TR you. You never explained any of your reads. You're as bad as NM in that regard.

so in conclusion, I have accurate reads. correct. what about the fact our reads have been what allowed us to lynch each xcum,we tried doing mutant d1 and it almost happened, every single one of our trs has ended up town? wait no that's not a reason to tr someone, scum bus. hm. well,guess we did nothing protown this game. time to throw in the towel

News flash: Scum bus.

I knew you were going to say that

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

what do you mean TOP priority? it's my priority because they're confirmed town and we literally cannot lynch xcum without their vote. you know they dont have an agenda. basic theory questions should be asked in mafia discussion in the future.

I think I understand that theory fine. I mean, you can try and play it off like I DON'T get that theory but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't just wait around for someone else to vote a certain way, whether they are confirmed or not. Like, you're not even making a push on NM... You just keep harassing me and doing a bunch of ad hom. You've basically just said "I have no power in this game, I will just blindly follow the IC" that is Scummy M8. If you actually wanted to get somewhere with me, you would try and reason with me. But you haven't really reasoned with anyone all game.

I have reasoned plenty this game you conf biased arrogant shitfuck. I actively tried to work with you. you wuickvoting today means you lose any silver of respect I didnt have left. I am not going to coddle you like a fucking child. I dont need to push nm, I told pintu I thought he was xcum, I've given reasons all game, you being town is enough to make his slot scum. you havent tried to talk to me all game, you've tunneled me as xcum from early day 1 and miraculously your alive in lylo..my previous post towncased us pretty much past the point of doubt and you're still being a belligerent redacted. redacted redacted, so no, pintu can reason with you and if you stick to your flabby ass guns then we will lose and I can happily never play with you again.

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I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

yes, because you're quickvoting the person almost every single dead townie and the ic have called town in mylo. among other reasons. you deserve to be condescended to.

And what do you deserve for being an asshole?

to never play with you again

Thanks God honestly. I think you are a piece of shit of a person honestly.

Cool. Right back at you redacted sack of redacted redacted redacted.

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I'm done posting here. pintu, figure out how to force quick to vote nm and we win. hes town. or, we lynch him ove ra mo lynch 24h yo deadline. prodging from here bye