Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[mutantdevle]

I stand corrected, picking 2 is not scummy. For some reason I just assumed scum would pick it. That said, 2 is scummy if 1 is town, going by my stats.

I'm glad you finally realised this :3 I've been facepalming every time you've said 2 is a scummy number this game but have never been bothered to really explain it to you.

I agree that 2 is scummy when 1's are town though.

[yessiree]

VC 1.24

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

Ausuka (5) -

Ircher, Lovebird, Mathdino, Eddie Cane, Myloninja13

Lovebird (4) -

Taly, Lalendra, mutantdevle, davesaz

Lalendra (2) -

the worst, Ausuka

davesaz (1) -

Iconeum

Not voting

- The Janitor, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-05-15 20:00:00)

[mutantdevle]

Town role cop.

2 questions that are kinda the same but not really:

Why did you pick role cop?

Why did you pick role cop over UB?

[Lalendra]

the question is why role cop and not universal backup

i'm actually trying to wrap my brain around why scum would choose role cop in this setup tbh

scum have the advantage in PR hunting :/

I am unfamiliar with this setup so I messaged the mod requesting to be either role cop or universal backup, thinking that the mod was supposed to choose which of those roles you receive. I received the role cop.

[Lalendra]

Ok ircher can fuck off with the bolded caps, I'm claiming because math requested it and hadn't done so in response to ircher's previous requests for some weird reason...oh that's right, I was V/LA! Ha ha. Silly me.

Sorry my V/LA was inconvenient, it was for something that I do every single year, so...sorry not sorry? Also I have pneumonia and am tired of being called lynchbaity, bad, or a liability, so I'm done defending myself. Not gonna self-vote because it's a pussy move but if I die, Math will ride all your asses into the ground.

Town role cop. Planning on following maths plan if I live to N1.

Okay, I've been quite rude, but at the same time, you have to understand that deadline is right around the corner, and a good portion of the game is stalled waiting on said claim.

Sorry, not letting you make me feel guilty about real-life shit I had to deal with. And it's not my fault that the game is held up because they're so eager to lynch a town PR. I can't even give a shit right now because if I don't get lynched, I'm almost definitely going to get NK'd so fuck it

[mutantdevle]

scum goes for universal backup a LOT in this setup

No they don't lol.

[Ircher]

@Lalendra --> Ausuka Y/N?

[Mathdino]

shit i think that confirms lalendra as town

that's never faked

any better ideas for a copcheck?

[Eddie Cane]

mathdino

[Lalendra]

VOTE: Ausuka

L-2

[Mathdino]

@Eddie: bad call, i'm just confirmed scum if i'm alive in lylo due to my placement in the draft and my activity/lategamesolving
it's not unlikely i get killed literally tonight

{Eddie Cane, Ircher, The Janitor} would be better picks i think

problem is that if the cop is scum with one of them, they could just lie

[mutantdevle]

mutant i kinda need you to catch up to the setup spec/draft pick shit

Your plan works for the most part.

I'm currently thinking it over in my head of whether Lalendra should only out Icon's role if it's one of the scummier ones. But I feel like any role other than cop is at least somewhat scummy for the 1st draft order. And we can hardly say "only out their role if it isn't cop".

Everyone is expecting Icon to be cop anyway, so is outing his role really so bad? Besides, if Icon is outed as not being the cop, then that means scum will have to put effort into finding the cop which would distract their attention. Which likely means they'll start shooting people higher up in the list which potentially gives themselves away.


So I think Lalendra should out Icon's role regardless of what it is.





Any setup spec specifically you would like me to weigh in on?

[Ircher]

I think Janitor or me would be the best choices. Both of us had major wagons today at some point.

[mutantdevle]

mathdino

NGL I would actually really appreciate this. I'm heavily paranoid of math being scum but I just so want him to be town.

Only cop!Icon should check math though. A cop check on math is only valuable if the cop is prepared to out early or, in Icon's case, is probably going to be outed quickly anyway.

[Mathdino]

tbh iconeum/the janitor is a highly likely scumteam anyway

i'm not sure that's the smart move

maybe just paranoia-checking lalendra cuz she's not getting NK'd anyway

@mutant: the cop should out their result tomorrow anyway.

[Mathdino]

man i'm telling you i get NK'd this game anyway

if you specifically order a copcheck on me tonight, that kills me the majority of the time

if we're gonna direct a copcheck, it should be on a suboptimal nightkill, not me

[mutantdevle]

@Eddie: bad call, i'm just confirmed scum if i'm alive in lylo due to my placement in the draft and my activity/lategamesolving
it's not unlikely i get killed literally tonight

Yeah, if we make it Lylo together, I'm probably voting you :P


Obviously, a cop check on you isn't the most effective use of the role, but I'd certainly be more at ease if I was able to confidently town read you.

[mutantdevle]

VOTE: Ausuka

L-1.

[Mathdino]

you'll be able to confidently townread me when i lynch scum

you're better off assuming i'm town on the basis that i still can't fake large scale continuous gamesolving as scum

i'm not interested in resolving your paranoia by way of killing myself

[Mathdino]

look if the cop checks the same person that scum kills, just lynch the cop, fair?

[Eddie Cane]

@Eddie: bad call, i'm just confirmed scum if i'm alive in lylo due to my placement in the draft and my activity/lategamesolving
it's not unlikely i get killed literally tonight

{Eddie Cane, Ircher, The Janitor} would be better picks i think

problem is that if the cop is scum with one of them, they could just lie

I'm a more likely kill, and st best you could argue its equal. what makes me a good cop check and you a bad one?

[Mathdino]

you're objectively MUCH more likely to be a VT than i am

that's not a softclaim, that's just fact

plus jailkeeper's probably gonna be on you

i'll accept being copcleared if and only if i'm also guaranteed doctor protection but the chance that we have a town doctor is minimal
although i guess you could just lynch any roleblocker claims down the line

eddie you keep setup speccing this based on scum doing what you would do
rather than what scum ACTUALLY tends to do, which is kill around spots 2-7 from the draft
VT kills are rare, i can only see scum killing you if ausuka flips scum (turning you into an IC)

[Ircher]

I think Janitor or me would be the best choices. Both of us had major wagons today at some point.

Plus, why would we cop check Eddie/Math other than paranoia? I think that can be resolved later...

[Mathdino]

janitor is prob going to be a guilty (or a lying "innocent"), while ircher gives us wagon info on a likely innocent

do we value an innocent in the PoE pool or a potential guilty more?

tbh i'd say go for the innocent

[Eddie Cane]

but you're not overly likely to be a pr anyways so that isn't a huge point anyways?

i'd rather a janitor cop over ircher