Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[dramonic]

Then just vote group 3.
Regardless of what Muffin does, none of your top 3 scumreads is leaving.

EDIT: False

[Pine]

Bu is universally town read lol

No he is not

You saying that makes me want his blood more.

[dramonic]

false at cake not pine.
Pine's right, obviously.

[SirCakez]

Look now he's lining up lynches for tomorrow after group 3 mostly/completely flips town
P-edit besides you Pine

[Wisdom]

If it's not you it's Riku
I don't need to think beyond this
muffin should swap with g1 scum

@pine

[Pine]

I could get behind that I guess.

Who's your G1 scum? I think Eddie's most likely, but he's still probably Town

[Pine]

Look now he's lining up lynches for tomorrow after group 3 mostly/completely flips town
P-edit besides you Pine

How can I line up lynches if I flip red?

[Wisdom]

fitz

[zMuffinMan]

i see wisdom did the selfish swap

cool

i'm surprised dram is still able to type after snapping his keyboard in half

talented

after sleeping on it, i decided i no longer give enough of a shit about this to do something selfish myself. i'll either use my role or not use my role depending on where public opinion sways

happy to consider all options

actually, i'm not particularly happy about it, but since the swap has already happened, i'm open to it i suppose?

*shrug*

gonna shit, shower, shave (yes, i felt this personal information relevant enough to the game to share with you all) and mull this over some more

[Pine]

Ehhhh nah

Fitz is Townish

[Wisdom]

either dont swap, swap with pine, or swap with fitz

all three work for me

[Pine]

The first two work for me

[Kokichi Oma]

if we can kill pine, riku, ROJ, Cakez, and dramonic, is anybody against that?

No but I think all 5 is impossible now

[Pine]

Well, no. I'd rather you swapped yourself out for SOMEONE.

[SirCakez]

Look now he's lining up lynches for tomorrow after group 3 mostly/completely flips town
P-edit besides you Pine

How can I line up lynches if I flip red?

You're not getting lynched as it stands
Unless Muffin swaps you in

[zMuffinMan]

oh i see

@kokichi yes it is, and it should be obvious what eddie means by that

that is another option to consider i suppose

[Kokichi Oma]

Eddie can you add a person to group 3 yes or no

[BuJaber]

Go.
Fuck.
Yourself.

This is the 2nd time.

We are having a game-related disagreement. This is unacceptable behavior. We're not animals.

You can't play mafia and not make any assumptions at all. Scum will have a field day with us if we are only doing the "trust no one" approach.
In a normal mafia game if 2 people's posts contradict each other you'd never opt for ignoring both of them because you can't guarantee which is truthful. You would analyze each and lynch the one you feel is less believable.
Risking 4 town to lynch 1 scum just because we are too scared to trust our reads is bad play. Also there is info gained. Even with the worst case scenario that wisdom is the only scum in group 2 and we swap him out with a townie (which btw is a scenario that doesn't fit with everything that happened) we would know for a fact that wisdom is scum and that there were 2 scum outsude of group 2.

@eddie swapping koki out has the same end result. If you guys are not townreading anyone based on claims you can't say that wisdom might be scum so we can't not lynch him and then assume koki isn't lying too.

[Kokichi Oma]

If so I'm fine with all those gone. I think cake and riku are partners which is why he 180'd after riku was swapped and not pine

[Wisdom]

i more get the impression pine is scum who knows riku is flipping town
hes both trying to get attention on bu (as alternative guilty in g2) and trying to mindfuck muffin into not swapping him into g3

[SirCakez]

i'd also be fine with that group dying ftr, kills most of my scum/null reads
don't think i ever explicitly said that

[SirCakez]

i more get the impression pine is scum who knows riku is flipping town

hes both trying to get attention on bu (as alternative guilty in g2)

and trying to mindfuck muffin into not swapping him into g3

i called bolded part earlier

[Pine]

i more get the impression pine is scum who knows riku is flipping town
hes both trying to get attention on bu (as alternative guilty in g2) and trying to mindfuck muffin into not swapping him into g3

As much as this is absolutely something I would do

And as much as I am flattered by your apparent regard for my scumgame

This is not a thing I am doing

[dramonic]

You can't play mafia and not make any assumptions at all. Scum will have a field day with us if we are only doing the "trust no one" approach.

That's irrelevant to the point

In a normal mafia game if 2 people's posts contradict each other you'd never opt for ignoring both of them because you can't guarantee which is truthful. You would analyze each and lynch the one you feel is less believable.

This is neither a normal game nor an accurate portrayal of the situation.
Risking 4 town to lynch 1 scum just because we are too scared to trust our reads is bad play. Also there is info gained. Even with the worst case scenario that wisdom is the only scum in group 2 and we swap him out with a townie (which btw is a scenario that doesn't fit with everything that happened) we would know for a fact that wisdom is scum and that there were 2 scum outsude of group 2.[/quote]The only info we get is "we fucked up". We'd have lynched 0 scum and lost 4/5 town.
Yeah, that's totally better than 4 town 1 scum minimum.

We coulda also have no swap, lynch group 2, net 1 scum minimum and know there were 2 scum outside of group 2. Except we'd be at worst 6-2 instead of 5-3

[zMuffinMan]

it occurs to me there's probably 4 group-manipulating roles in this game

swapper, self-swapper, mover, self-mover

that would be nice symmetry; kudos to implosion for thinking that up, if that's the case