Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Ouroboros]

But lynch order for me would be you third and start worrying about deep wolves if the game isn't over.

[Ouroboros]

It's barely 6 in the morning and I can't remember where RC put our vote.



Ghost

[wilky]

Problem is, we keep spending deadline doing these switches just for this quest.
But well i can always blame it on Ram right?

Ram and RC

It unfortunate that this causes another day of unnaturally formed wagons VCA is one of my strong points.

Or we could have L-1'd you then had some unvotes after the vc and by now be past that stage of the quest but you and RC had to be awkward about it all.

It unfortunate that this causes another day of unnaturally formed wagons VCA is one of my strong points.

Eh, I can do VCA on the unnatural ones too. If anything, they'll help overall.

What would be helpful from the unnatural wagons?

i think focusing this day on fulfilling the quest is a bad idea that stifles natural conversation/scumhunting/vca

i hope we're done soon

We would have been done earlier if it weren't for two awkward players...

The flip would help me figure out RC's alignment and the other lynches I wanted at the time weren't happening.
If someone acts super confident in a read and I know them to have decent reads I don't mind sheeping it it's not like we were at lylo. Vents flip of info was gonna help me regardless I didn't really care if they flipped town or scum the fact they flipped scum is a bonus

I mean I've never even played with RC but know enough to know that hard bussing is well within his range so what would a flip on someone who was null to you provide on RC exactly?

Wraith, Kaede, Impossibear

Tchill

Jungle Kokichi

Maria

Ouroboros

These people continue to need to vote Tchill's replacement so we can get a VC and be done with this ridiculous L-1 thing. No one else should vote Tchill, but I can't be arsed to actually do an FOS vote count rn.

Non bolded names are already on the wagon, but should stay on the wagon. We will unvote at our earliest opportunity after GiF votecounts. Remember, we get the hammer and to hammer today is a scumclaim.

OTM, there's a list of claims that was accurate not long ago in my ISO. If you skim backwards you should be able to find it pretty quickly.

~Jingle

I think Tchill slot is still awaiting replacement isn't it?

Ouroboros still town obviously
Ankamius town
Wraith town
Kaede town
Alchemist21 town

that's my 100% list, I'll branch out from there

Okay I am legit scared.

I agree with RC.

Help. Me. I must be going insane.

can you explain where literally any of these reads came from

RC because when he busses he doesn’t talk about anyone else.
Ank is a because I know her read.
Wraith is because his reasons are good for attacking my predecessor’s slot. Wrong conclusion but I see where he is coming from.
Kaede is the IC.
Alchemist21 is more a gut read.

This sounds awkward and fake.

I said I wouldn't strong arm shit today so I'll leave you to your mislynch of Tchill. Wraith and Dunn die the next two days though.

It's not a mislynch though is it, its getting the first part of the quest done which you are hellbent on not helping with.


I'm not liking OTM since he has joined, his push on kokichi makes no sense at all, the lack of understanding about a scum no kill seems like someone with information feigning ignorance and the reads he posted seem fake.

[wilky]

Impossibear so we can get past this first part of the quest I will be will to move my vote to the tchill slot if you want to, it doesn't look like RC will cooperate here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At that point in the game, I actually hadn't seen Impossibear claim Vig. Had I been scum, I would have known she was vig and no reason to make that post. But, that's neither here nor there.

As I was saying, in that point in the game I'd only ISO'd about 3 people. So, I'm not quite sure why that post would make you think I'm scum. And based on the posts of other people, they are saying the same thing. How does that make you feel?

So you said you hadn’t seen the claim.

Why did you think vig then hmmm?

Can't believe you are this dense.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The player said they werent the scum kill, but ironically they died, hence Kokichi's comment, it makes 100% sense to me dunno why it doesnt make sense to you.

[MariaR]

Ah I see how Kaede is gonna play around Kokichi now.

[MariaR]

Keep votes on Tchii but don't end the day thank you

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Wraith

This the shit I don't like.

What's your case on Wraith?

[OnTheMark]

The player said they werent the scum kill, but ironically they died, hence Kokichi's comment, it makes 100% sense to me dunno why it doesnt make sense to you.

That’s the core of the issue chica.

If Kokichi didn’t see the vig claim there is no reason to think they weren’t the scum kill.

If Kokichi did see the vig claim then they outright lied.

A typical response to a weird kill without a vig claim is “why the hell would scum kill them?”, not vig hunting.

[OnTheMark]

Generally when something doesn’t make sense or goes against the grain Kokichi has a response like
viewtopic.php?p=10069180#p10069180

Kokichi doesn’t do shit like instantly trust. That’s not Kokichi’s nature.

[Kokichi Oma]

At that point in the game, I actually hadn't seen Impossibear claim Vig. Had I been scum, I would have known she was vig and no reason to make that post. But, that's neither here nor there.

As I was saying, in that point in the game I'd only ISO'd about 3 people. So, I'm not quite sure why that post would make you think I'm scum. And based on the posts of other people, they are saying the same thing. How does that make you feel?

So you said you hadn’t seen the claim.

Why did you think vig then hmmm?

This post makes me want to facepalm so badly.

[Kokichi Oma]

At that point in the game, I actually hadn't seen Impossibear claim Vig. Had I been scum, I would have known she was vig and no reason to make that post. But, that's neither here nor there.

As I was saying, in that point in the game I'd only ISO'd about 3 people. So, I'm not quite sure why that post would make you think I'm scum. And based on the posts of other people, they are saying the same thing. How does that make you feel?

So you said you hadn’t seen the claim.

Why did you think vig then hmmm?

Can't believe you are this dense.

[OnTheMark]

Well, I mean I felt like Dave was scummier than Wilky here and I haven't really changed my mind so....what else do you feel like I should be doing?

I'd like it if you could expand on your dave/wilky viewpoint.

it's mostly the same as b4. I don't really see scum Wilky CCing Dave here. Them both being Millers is just as equally plausible to me as Wilky Dave fakeclaiming miller as scum. I'm not really getting y I can't think that Dave is scum that got CC'd. If its "there's mod meta!" then fair, I'm not saying we HAVE to vote Dave I just hadn't moved my vote to another scumspect yet. I'd want to lynch off the Wilky mini wagon.

This also needs rope. Kokichi/Nero

Still reading up.

[Kokichi Oma]

Like their logic is so bad, that I want to call OTM bad town. But everytime I say that the person ends up being scum. So OTM needs to be lynched eventually

[Kokichi Oma]

Please stop reading up if you're going to make posts that continue to make no sense

[OnTheMark]

I don't get how town Nero can get "oh 3 people claim neg utility so scum has to be fake claiming" without thinking if that's the case town has to have some great stuff or scum are underpowered etc etc.
Scum nero thinking that and using it as an agenda to push something makes a lot more sense though imo.

MariaR is town.

[OnTheMark]

Like their logic is so bad, that I want to call OTM bad town. But everytime I say that the person ends up being scum. So OTM needs to be lynched eventually

Don’t worry.

Scum (if not you which I doubt) will kill me. This wagon on me didn’t manifest on me out of no where after I claimed PR with info. I will die. Then my confusion will make sense. So if you’re town you have nothing to worry about. And if you’re scum you have everything to worry about.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ah I see how Kaede is gonna play around Kokichi now.

What does THIS mean, Maki. You meanie pants.

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't get how town Nero can get "oh 3 people claim neg utility so scum has to be fake claiming" without thinking if that's the case town has to have some great stuff or scum are underpowered etc etc.
Scum nero thinking that and using it as an agenda to push something makes a lot more sense though imo.

MariaR is town.

This is NAI for her. And she'll agree with this.

[OnTheMark]

If you want to be able to stand a chance of lynching me as scum you first have to establish that you can townread me as town.

If you are town now would be a good time to start.

Lord help me I am scared of scum!RC don’t want to wagon him today because I get paranoid of RC a lot but ewwww this post is bad. I am hoping this is a Ghost post.

[Kokichi Oma]

Like their logic is so bad, that I want to call OTM bad town. But everytime I say that the person ends up being scum. So OTM needs to be lynched eventually

Don’t worry.

Scum (if not you which I doubt) will kill me. This wagon on me didn’t manifest on me out of no where after I claimed PR with info. I will die. Then my confusion will make sense. So if you’re town you have nothing to worry about. And if you’re scum you have everything to worry about.

Literally NO ONE is voting you. What wagon? Also has it not given you pause literally EVERYONE says your push on me makes NO SENSE. Not even one person agrees. Your push was so bad that even Ouroboros stopped scumreading me after it.

[OnTheMark]

I don't get how town Nero can get "oh 3 people claim neg utility so scum has to be fake claiming" without thinking if that's the case town has to have some great stuff or scum are underpowered etc etc.
Scum nero thinking that and using it as an agenda to push something makes a lot more sense though imo.

MariaR is town.

This is NAI for her. And she'll agree with this.

Don’t care if she thinks it’s NAI.

While I tend to struggle as town I can literally count the amount of times I have misread MariaR on one finger. So her opinion of NAI is irrelevant. She’s town. Like I just feel it.

[OnTheMark]

Like their logic is so bad, that I want to call OTM bad town. But everytime I say that the person ends up being scum. So OTM needs to be lynched eventually

Don’t worry.

Scum (if not you which I doubt) will kill me. This wagon on me didn’t manifest on me out of no where after I claimed PR with info. I will die. Then my confusion will make sense. So if you’re town you have nothing to worry about. And if you’re scum you have everything to worry about.

Literally NO ONE is voting you. What wagon? Also has it not given you pause literally EVERYONE says your push on me makes NO SENSE. Not even one person agrees. Your push was so bad that even Ouroboros stopped scumreading me after it.

There is no vote wagon, but there is a wagon of copy pasta reasons of “fake” and “OTM is scum”. The wagon doesn’t require votes it requires mass follow agreements. While traditionally used as a vote wagon there are other wagons like a conga line.

No one is gonna vote me because this quest thing. Not sure what else is needed for it.

[Kokichi Oma]

Okay, yeah. You're just scum. Everything is too fake.

Kaede let me know when we are done doing whatever L1 thing we are doing and I can vote OTM