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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 8:39 am

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BOT-SAN are you going to GRAB a pagetop?

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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 8:40 am

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I guess not! ┐(‘~`;)┌
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 8:49 am

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pagetopper broke, you get me instead. it will be back with upgrades
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 8:51 am

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WARUI... (´;Д;`)

I felt like he was the ONLY one whom understood me....
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:01 am

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In post 2209, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 2206, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:WHAT is there to NOT understand?
I'm just confused about Lalendra's flip. But not much point dwelling on that.

What I would say about it though is that, since scum did not get the role cop, I revoke my suspicion of Icon.
Iconeum is definitely in the Lynch pool.
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:04 am

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In post 2221, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 2217, mutantdevle wrote:This is one of several upcoming posts which is just documentation to myself rather than making any strong statements:

Based on draft number alone the scum are as follows:

Taly > Icon > Janitor >
Saske > Ausuka / Eddie >
Davesaz / mutantdevle > Ircher
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Please completely ignore this ^^ post. I used the wrong stats.

This is the correct version:

Ircher* > SIMYK > mutant / davesaz >
Icon > Ausuka / Eddie >
The Janitor > Taly


* = very limited data.

This is based on how frequently each number has been picked in each of this setup's past games.
I love how this is the total opposite of your earlier post.
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:34 am

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1. In :
Mutant wrote:Based on role claims alone the scum are as follows:

Eddie > SIMYK > {All the neighbourizer claims} > Icon > Taly.
Are you sure this is correct? Also, Taly claimed VT/Neighborizer, so.....???

2. In :
Ausuka wrote:Starting to think there's scum in {SIMYK, Taly}.
Not sure about Taly, but I'm starting to have my doubts about SIMYK. I still haven't gotten around to ISOing them though.

3. In :
SIMYK wrote:that it is DAVESAZ, so if there is a roleblocker it is BETWEEN myself and janitor!

It is ALSO possible that ICONEUM is LYING, which will be REVEALED if that is the case after Janitor or I am LYNCHED.
My thoughts over the night was that the simplest explanation actually is that Iconeum is lying, and there is no roleblocker. That said, I really think today's lynch pool is one of {SIMYK, Janitor, Iconeum} (in no particular order) because I highly doubt scum gambited with fakeclaiming with the lower draft numbers.

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Mutant wrote:Forgive me if I don't seem too interested in forming reads this day phase because I'm going to attempt to solve this game mechanically rather than through reading into too much of what people post.
Didn't we already try that? It hasn't helped us much so far, that's for sure.
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:44 am

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Not that it matters for this game (or setup) but the discussion on highest draft # ever caught my eye...

The highest draft number by far in a similar game was
3141592653
by Titus, in the double deck game.
She was town and 7 out of 23 in the draft order. Only one of the 3 other people who picked really big numbers was scum.
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:28 am

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Davesaz, are you going to contribute something useful now?
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 1:08 pm

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VOTE: Iconeum
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 6:28 pm

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In post 2259, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
And who would I be scum with, exactly?

I targeted Saske this night, no result.

Lynching janitor today.
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 6:33 pm

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My town bloc:

mutantdevle
Eddie Cane
Ausuka
Eddie Cane
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In between:

Ircher
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

Lynch first:

davesaz
The Janitor

If by lynching janitor we kill the RB, I will die this night. At the very least, that will take away the doubt you (should) have about me.

@Ircher, why lynch me over janitor today?
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 8:08 pm

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Ircher and Saske are much more likely to flip RB then janitor, simply based on draft position:

1.Iconeum 1
2.the worst 3
3.Lalendra 5
4.Ircher 11
5.SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis 413
6.Mathdino 2
7.The Janitor 2
8.Beefster 4
9.Taly 4
10.Almost50 8
11.mutantdevle 8
12.Ausuka 6
13.Lovebird 6
14.brassherald 6

Scum is ALWAYS gonna go for a high number, and I know it's not 1, so very likely 2. Math flipped, which heavily incriminates janitor.
It's the safest lynch today in any scenario.
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:03 am

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You realize that if I’m RBer, then Taly and Ausuka are my partners, right? My role is self-confirming.

Your partner is definitely The Janitor and probably one of {Mutant, Davesaz, SIMYK}
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:04 am

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that kill is horse shit, i was going to probably try and lynch dino today for all of his bullshit

ah well

thanks scum!
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:05 am

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But mainly, your posting is lackluster, and I want you to start actually playing the game and giving actual reads.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:06 am

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In post 2264, Eddie Cane wrote:that kill is horse shit, i was going to probably try and lynch dino today for all of his bullshit

ah well

thanks scum!
Meh, Math was close to conftown at that point.

So am I actually.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:08 am

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Eddie - for the purposes of numbers

Taly - was town anyways, but scum!Taly never lets Dino be a kill so this slot is basically conf town.

Mutant - still pretty solidly town too

Ircher - not scum with Ausuka, and Ausuka townreads on meta, and has that generally awkward townie vibe. Town.


Saske - less confident than before, meh. Townish.

Ausuka - townish

davesaz - I wish we had a n3 vig to threaten to policy you if you don't stop being actively useless. meh.

Iconeum - scummish

The Janitor - spewed scum by Dino
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:09 am

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In post 2266, Ircher wrote:
In post 2264, Eddie Cane wrote:that kill is horse shit, i was going to probably try and lynch dino today for all of his bullshit

ah well

thanks scum!
Meh, Math was close to conftown at that point.

So am I actually.
I

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disagree

being against the Lalendra lynch was actually scummy
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:10 am

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In post 2267, Eddie Cane wrote:Eddie - for the purposes of numbers

Taly - was town anyways, but scum!Taly never lets Dino be a kill so this slot is basically conf town.

Mutant - still pretty solidly town too

Ircher - not scum with Ausuka, and Ausuka townreads on meta, and has that generally awkward townie vibe. Town.
1 more town and the game is over bar a random vig/vengeful faking vt scum, cool coooool.
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:11 am

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In post 2261, Iconeum wrote:My town bloc:
mutantdevle
Eddie Cane
Ausuka
Eddie Cane
Taly

In between:
Ircher
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

Lynch first:
davesaz
The Janitor
this is pretty similarish to my reads though, and a cop claim. we probably have to do Janitor today. Saske and Dave are options too. Ico, meh. 50/50
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:37 am

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Fine, we Lynch Janitor but we use our time wisely.

Eddie, do you care to be neighborized tonight?
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:39 am

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In post 2260, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2259, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
And who would I be scum with, exactly?

I targeted Saske this night, no result.

Lynching janitor today.
What do you think of Mutants switching his vote from you to Lalendra?

I don't understand his reads much. Going solely by draft st this point seems dismissive of all the other game information.
In post 2242, Ausuka wrote:Why should we prioritize roleblocker?
Lalendra flipping town means her Cop result on Iconeum is probably correct.

There is credibility in prioritizing an RB because with Iconeum getting NO results for the 2nd time in a row it means one of two things:

1) Iconeum is Mafia Cop trying to conftown himself through having no substantial results but being a confed cop.
2) Iconeum is Town Cop getting repeatedly RBed

With the 1st number being normal in drafts for scum, I have reservations with treating Iconeum as an IC.

However, my townread on Janitor has deteriorated completely with the Math flip. Multiple people who have suspected him have flipped town and there's nothing to suggest his VT claim is valid based on draft and claim info.

VOTE: The Janitor

Townbloc for me right now: {Taly, Ircher, Eddie, Ausuka, SIMYK}

Dave is townlean, but I'll need to reread him again.

{Iconeum, Mutant} are question marks still.

I'll explain reads in depth later when I have time.
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:41 am

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Let’s use as much of D3 as we have.
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 3:43 am

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In post 2273, Ircher wrote:
Let’s use as much of D3 as we have.
Was just about to say this

I'm going to do some ISO digging
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