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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 9:55 am

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In post 1211, acryon wrote:Actually don't answer that question. You've made up your mind and are clearly going to just be useless for today.
In post 1216, acryon wrote:
In post 1215, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1208, acryon wrote:
In post 1207, Katsuki wrote:Do you think there was a scum motive for Misaka tracking me?
I'm not sure, but it's an action that doesn't make sense to me.
It's glaringly obvious. Should have made a ton of sense from your perspective too.
Then spell it out for me. Why would you motivate someone and then track that person? How does that help solve anything?
In post 1221, acryon wrote:I'm finding myself just getting super frustrated and that means I'm not enjoying this game anymore.

I'm going to claim. You can believe it and back off, or you can continue to groupthink tunnel and lynch me.

My role for today is role-checker, which is why I was asking those questions. But again, people too tunnel-visioned to even think about it. Yetserday I was universal backup, and I picked up Srceen's role, but since he used it I just inherited VT. My other roles are lovely, and gladiator.

I'm going to step away for a bit.
In post 1190, acryon wrote:
In post 1188, Taly wrote:Also Acryon if you townread me and
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I'm sheeping Wisdom

Then why aren't you trying to convince me your reads? Do you have scumreads?
Town requires tact too, which I'm attempting to exercise.

I can put together a full readslist, but I doubt it placates my critics.
The truth is my reads are largely gut-driven at this point.
Yesterday was a bit of a mess with the 2nd half being such a non-day and so many people lurking. It's very possible most scum exists in the lurkers.
In post 1270, acryon wrote:I'm not opposed to that. As you mentioned, he fit the criteria I was looking within and his near-naked vote on me is bad. Probably best to stay off of Misaka and Katsuki for now with their night interaction.

VOTE: Wheme
Taly wrote:@Acryon

1) I don't consider this a speedlynch. But a lynch with half the town firmly believing it flips scum, and some random votes of people who most likely KNOW your alignment.

2) My reason for scumreading you is not solely your change in wanting to claim and then hammering. Your posts don't draw to well-held conclusions, I think just about everyone wagon you've been on I've townread to some degree. And you seem associated with others in my scumpool.

3) If you're confused by why and how I think your view could be scum, then you could try more to explain how it isn't coming from a scum perspective.
1) That's fair. L-2/L-1 in less than 24 hours feels like a speedlynch to me, but I don't think your characterization is unreasonable.

2) Not much I can do about that I guess. In relatively content-light games like this one, I think I rely too much on my gut and then look at people my gut is pointing too and see if their posts make sense within that context. I think this drives me to build cases (big or small) and stick to people too long because I believe I've found things to justify my gut.

3) That's such a weird request in context though. I mean I gave you my exact perspective it came from, which clearly I know to be my town perspective. So I don't exactly know beyond that what it would look like to "explain how it isn't coming from a scum perspective." It isn't because it's coming from me who is town.
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In post 1267, Taly wrote:I want {Nico, Purr, north} to post substance before we end the day.
The fear here is, when will that happen?
We've got lots of day left.
This is such a weird flip back and forth between "ugh you're all so useless why even bother" and "oh gosh yes I totally get why you think that but gee I just don't know how to explain you're wrong" and random pokes at people to see what traction Acryon can get on non-Acryon wagons that I don't know what to make of it. Like, pushing at the Katsuki/Misaka role interactions, then backing off it when it doesn't look like it'll go anywhere, then as soon as people reiterate suspicion of Wheme (which is valid enough) you're on that too. Also, I feel like I'm reiterating it but it's something I really want to emphasise - only gut reads with 3 flips and 50 pages to work on is honestly a position I've never found myself in as town.
Kokichi Oma wrote:VOTE: wheme
Please don't be that dude who uses being an IC to be useless and avoid posting any content... I mean, you weren't posting much beforehand but still, bruh.
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In post 1268, Taly wrote:
In post 1267, Taly wrote:I want {Nico, Purr, north} to post substance before we end the day.
The fear here is, when will that happen?
nico is town
north might be scum
im clear :D also way to stupid for scum to want to nk me
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This is not substance, but I'll engage with it anyway because maybe that'll actually get you into the game: why is Nico town when they've done so little, why is North scum when likewise, and unless I'm radically misinterpreting your meaning, how are you clear?
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 9:58 am

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Well, that's a "fun" interaction between BBcode and AutocardAnywhere.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:24 am

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The first part of this day I played without a care for drawing suspicion on myself. This is typically how I play and it's typically never close to a mislynch. This game is clearly not typical for me in that regard. As such, I need to adjust my play a bit.

I vocalized suspecting Kokichi; it went nowhere and got me heat.
I vocalized suspecting Creature; it went nowhere and got me heat.
I vocalized suspecting Misaka/Katsuki; it went nowhere and got me heat.

What'd they say the definition of insanity was again?

Related, but trying to survive is NAI.
I want to survive as scum because it supports my wincon and I like to play.
I want to survive as town because it supports my wincon and I like to play.

In short, I can either choose to play the way I normally would and risk getting myself lynched which is bad for not just me, or I can adjust.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:45 am

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In post 1277, acryon wrote:The first part of this day I played without a care for drawing suspicion on myself. This is typically how I play and it's typically never close to a mislynch. This game is clearly not typical for me in that regard. As such, I need to adjust my play a bit.

I vocalized suspecting Kokichi; it went nowhere and got me heat.
I vocalized suspecting Creature; it went nowhere and got me heat.
I vocalized suspecting Misaka/Katsuki; it went nowhere and got me heat.

What'd they say the definition of insanity was again?

Related, but trying to survive is NAI.
I want to survive as scum because it supports my wincon and I like to play.
I want to survive as town because it supports my wincon and I like to play.

In short, I can either choose to play the way I normally would and risk getting myself lynched which is bad for not just me, or I can adjust.
This is not a town post
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 1252, Wisdom wrote:wheme who else is scum?
Probably some lurkers

Like where is nos
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:47 am

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In post 1279, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1252, Wisdom wrote:wheme who else is scum?
Probably some lurkers

Like where is nos
And northsidegal
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:48 am

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I strongly believe kid wisdom Taly are town

I’m worried about Kokichi not being an ic and somehow this popularity contest hurts us but whatever
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 12:04 pm

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In post 1275, KidAmn wrote: This is not substance, but I'll engage with it anyway because maybe that'll actually get you into the game: why is Nico town when they've done so little, why is North scum when likewise, and unless I'm radically misinterpreting your meaning, how are you clear?
ok u doing way too much
nico is the second coming of the screenplay wagon



i gave misaka the thing i am a little deflated they didn't do anything magical with it tho

VOTE: Nosferatu

acryon is really scummy
i guess ill put him in my town pile
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 12:47 pm

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Why nos and not wheme
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 1:15 pm

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In post 1283, Wisdom wrote:Why nos and not wheme
Please explain

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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 1:20 pm

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as a wise person once told me: why me= fry me
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm

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every fucking game when i get back to prodge there's a vote on me

like why do i have just the shittiest timing
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 1286, Nosferatu wrote:every fucking game when i get back to prodge there's a vote on me

like why do i have just the shittiest timing
Have you tried playing the game instead of prodging
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 7:31 pm

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In post 1285, Kokichi Oma wrote:as a wise person once told me: why me= fry me
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:21 am

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In post 1287, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1286, Nosferatu wrote:every fucking game when i get back to prodge there's a vote on me

like why do i have just the shittiest timing
Have you tried playing the game instead of prodging
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:21 am

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In post 1286, Nosferatu wrote:every fucking game when i get back to prodge there's a vote on me

like why do i have just the shittiest timing
Are you admitting to replying WHEN you're suspected?

Because if this is ALL you gotta say since your last post then I should evaluate if we need 3 wagons now or not.
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:22 am

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Wheme, are you going to actually respond to my prompts and Qs to you instead of doing what town-you is expected to be like?
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:25 am

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Still don't get the threads kink of suspecting Nico.

And that Wheme wagon looks better with each of posts.

I'm slightly losing the point in going back and forth with Acryon atm. They say they suspect people and they get heat, but the two people they suspect D1 had wagons on then

And if he's saying that he's "genuinely" suspecting and scumhunting in Misaka and Katsuki right now then I'm laughing.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:26 am

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Acryon, if you suspect Misaka/Katsuki as scum, why are you voting the second other popular wagon?

Ugh. I know town does this sometimes but that's a real great way to misled people post flip.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:34 am

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Also can I not get so readily townread by people I suspect l?

That just makes me think people are trying to diffuse me or some shit.

And Wheme, can you tell me why doesn't warrant a vote? While you're at it, what's the reason for your scumread on Acryon?
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:36 am

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In post 1281, WhemeStar wrote:I strongly believe kid wisdom Taly are town

I’m worried about Kokichi not being an ic and somehow this popularity contest hurts us but whatever
Why do you strongly believe they are town?
Taly wrote:I'm slightly losing the point in going back and forth with Acryon atm. They say they suspect people and they get heat, but the two people they suspect D1 had wagons on then

And if he's saying that he's "genuinely" suspecting and scumhunting in Misaka and Katsuki right now then I'm laughing.
I wouldn't exactly say that. I would say that I just barely began to. As I mentioned, it was where I was starting to look post-flips.
In post 1293, Taly wrote:Acryon, if you suspect Misaka/Katsuki as scum, why are you voting the second other popular wagon?

Ugh. I know town does this sometimes but that's a real great way to misled people post flip.
I suspected Misaka/Katsuki primarily as a function of looking for people that were on Srceen and off Tora. As Wisdom pointed out, Wheme also should technically fall into this category despite it not showing on VC's. As you can see in my posts, I never really got much further than that before things devolved.

Wheme (again as Wisdom pointed out) was actually much more vocal in his support of the Srceen wagon and opposition of the Tora wagon than either Misaka or Katsuki. Additionally, I believe his jump onto my wagon was very opportunistic, showing no previous sign of suspicion and mostly-naked voting.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:40 am

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In post 1291, Taly wrote:Wheme, are you going to actually respond to my prompts and Qs to you instead of doing what town-you is expected to be like?
Thought I did idk what did I miss
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:46 am

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Also want to clarify my stance on Wisdom. I was getting very frustrated with his suspicion of me because it felt very weak from him. But then I remembered that I think he's literally only played in games with me where I was scum, so it's not surprising he would suspect me here. Actually looking at the work he's done this game, I do genuinely think he's doing solid scumhunting, just maybe letting some bias lead him astray on me. He's town.

@Taly: I also believe you are town. I
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the readslist in 1138. Outside of your position for me, this is very close to where I feel with things. Disagreed with your change on Purr, but sadly you're actually probably right in light of his claim.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:48 am

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In post 1292, Taly wrote:Still don't get the threads kink of suspecting Nico.
Honestly it's not so much suspicion as "either this slot gets replaced or it needs to be gone before it throws endgame" because they've shown little to no inclination to really play the game. Although in fairness there are plenty of people that could be applied to right now, Nico is just a particularly egregious example.

Pedit: not sure Purr should be considered clear by any means given that this game is supposed to be role madness.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Wed May 23, 2018 1:53 am

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Acryon, could you spend less time reiterating your stances and push them?

Purr is mostly town for me based on associative and my scumreads being correct. But if you disagree with me why do you think I'm right?

Wheme probably knows Kid/Me/Wisdom are town LOL

Also Wheme, ISO my posts directed to you and reply to the question marks or what's quoted to you.

Ehhh... Nico is more town to me based on interactions and sincerity but that's not a strong read. I just think several other people need the rope.
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