In post 846, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Eddie – I can see things that could be Town and things I could see from scum. I’m doing my best to temper my dislike for his constant appeals to how other see him as a great player from filtering into my read. Show don’t tell.
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In post 831, Pine wrote:Kindly fuck off. I'm one of the very few people who had a Tywin!Town read, and your bullshit pushes are doing work upending that.
...wat
In post 834, Lycanfire wrote:I made it clear I was talking about Pine-Chamber and the most I got out of it was Petro asking about it, Insanity sneering at it and Ginngie making monkey faces at her for it. This is back to the point meant to be aimed at Hito in my 747 (ok I went stream of consciousness and it made more sense in my head) that the more information you take in, the more opportunities you afford to scum to talk you out of it. This game was the equivalent of a game with twice its paged just from sheer density. That's an information overload. There's a reason why I limited myself to KMD-Cooldog showing up to fill in the blanks.
But you specifically do your sorting off of individual posts. There are less individual posts. Unless I'm misremembering your process from discord (I left the TM server so I can't check), the post count should be all that matters and the density should be irrelevant.
In post 834, Lycanfire wrote:Pine and Chamber both had their time in the sun, then didn't, and the best I got was "so did you read up yet?" Or in the case of Moi, flat out refusing to hear about anything I had to say about OM until I got to his claim (and somehow Moi was still tunneling when I showed up-so obviously what I had to say was relevant.)
i don't know what you're responding to here
In post 834, Lycanfire wrote:542-605 has the progression that you didn't like Hito's read on Petro and you planted a giant flag in a grass saying "hey this person might be scum"?
well he's townreading my strongest scumread idk why you think I would like that
and not really. Yes he might be scum. no he probably isn't. the previous two sentences are the definition of a town read my guy. 605 doesn't qualify as shading.
In 505 you're scummy for how you pushed back on Petro.
hito's been fosing me most of the game at least a bit, including up to now (there is no "best buds" reversal)
In post 834, Lycanfire wrote:In 505 you're scummy for how you pushed back on Petro. You two tango from 541-547 (all Hito seems to want to say on the subject) and you're #2 scum, behind me, while Hito wants to ignore me and tell me to RTFT. 547 is marked with this hilarious line. Not only are you #2 scum, but you are remarkably fair while being so!
weak
In post 834, Lycanfire wrote:Ginngie's pred was one of the few that cared about anything I had to say, even when she was trying to hulk you like a one man army. 663 is a woke post, which I saw before. It was reminiscent of how KMD fingered Moi in 191 for starting the fire of your wagon. I voted Ginngie because people that think being drunk makes you stupid piss me off, and part of me wanted to see Ginngie make an ass of themself. Mainly though I wanted to see how Moi would digest it. He didn't. His response to Ginngie is in 701, and I feel the exact opposite about Ginngie's play here. Whether my vote was digested or not I don't know, but everyone ought to know that I'm worth keeping around now!
weak
why are you still voting your expired and explained reaction test
In post 835, Lycanfire wrote:He's a player that tunnelfucks on people like PJ or Kmd. Those votes were consistent with how I feel like he is as a player (this player must be in some way fundamentally wrong, so I must vote). What I didn't like is his attempt to sort Hito... then vote onto me. The method is there, but the arrow went far. I don't think Josh actually believes I'm scum.
I never said I scumread you?
In post 839, Ginngie wrote:2) Knowing what I know about Eddie, I'd be talking to a brick wall because ego clashing and I highly doubt he would respect a single thing I would ever say in mafia ever after TM18.
It was more funny than infuriating fwiw. Now I get to laugh at MS for town faking a guilty on town in the best tour of the year.
Your only comments towards me were strongly town though?
*nods*
In post 847, Tammy wrote:I could easily see Inanity as scum. Her overall posting is generally fine and while she's fine tonally, it's not alignment indicative.
still town imo.
In post 852, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I'm pretty sure I know who OldMan's main is so this last second addition to my advice - having the main replace into this slot in combination with not activating IC tomorrow is an absolute lock 100% scum-claim.
who? he doesn't have to tell us but we have the right to talk about it.
In post 853, Tammy wrote:Eddie - you called Lycan your friend and said he probably replaced in to play with you, so I thoight you had more experience. My bad.
We are atp, we talked a LOT in team mafia and our whole team is pretty tight as far as mafia friends go now. He can clarify why he /in'd.
In post 854, Axelrod wrote:For example, there is approximately <1% chance that Ginngie is scum. There is just no way she (he? sorry, I'm still not sure) does a reversal on me like that this close to a deadline. Not when it would be SO EASY to just say nothing, let it ride, let other people continue to push it for you. You could try to argue "oh, she's trying to gain credibility for later" but the fact is, scum also HATE to reverse themselves. So much easier to just be "consistent." It just wouldn't happen.
he
but... this assumes Lycan isn't also a mislynch?
In post 859, Tammy wrote:Kison was the one who used Tywin's replace out to supplement his already scum read. I didn't realize that the first time around, so meh. Tonally I've liked some of his posts, but I forget he's in the game a lot.
Yea Kison wya boi.
Have you played with him though? 1 sample of 1 alignment obviously isn't lock, but this looked v different from his last game and ya he's very genuine sounding.
In post 862, MagnaofIllusion wrote:As to Eddie's "Sheeping is perfect good scum-hunting Elli does it and won a scummy" stance - I don't buy that for a second. It is a bad Appeal to Authority given that Elli clearly did not win Paragon for blindly sheeping.
not remotely what I said
blindly sheeping is not a thing
finding a player better seasoned to read people and sheeping while still sorting, that's different.
fire's is questionable, but on principal sheeping your townreads is not a bad thing. and elli and i are good friends, i know how he plays. sheeping is obviously not his entire game or even the crux. its probably meta > fakemeta (personality analyses - v useful) > outsourcing reads (sheeping) > etc.
In post 862, MagnaofIllusion wrote:The last post you made that I could conceivably say contained any actual attempts to find scum (and not just be jovial fun old Fire who likes to have fun and be liked) is 409 and even that was over two weeks ago. I've heard you say in other games that you do things behind the scenes to scum hunt and just because you don't show it doesn't mean you aren't doing it. To which I say if I don't see you doing it here in the thread for all to see and judge I'm not going to assume it is happening elsewhere. Sorry that's a bad assumption you should expect anyone to make.
@fire@
In post 864, insanity018 wrote:The stuff that he's posting seems generally fine and there's nothing that jumps out as terribly bad. My previous concern about the fake emotional post is still there, but my concerns with his catchup style are not alignment indicative for him. That said, nothing in his posts really jumps out as town either.
KMD: an animated motion picture
In post 878, roflcopter wrote:it boggles my mind that no one else is even concerned by the fact that axel put actual effort into scrutinizing both kmd and tywin[lycan] earlier in this day and now that they are the only two viable lynches aside from himself he won't commit to either.
wh
In post 880, Axelrod wrote:I suspect that I would be voting one or the other of them at this point were I myself not also in the running. There's something about voting someone else to save your own skin that just feels wrong to me on a kind of primal level. Even someone I had suspicions about.
I don't get it. Obviously this isn't right, but how I interpreted this is "I don't vote my counterwagons because I feel bad"
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
