Minuet's Trio [Game Over]

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egogogogo

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if I could vote right now it'd be on kaede
inconsistent tone, floating between calm/floundering
having difficulties reading why

It's cause she's trying to look like she is on the verge of losing her cool and basically anything and is holding it in for the sake of the game but she's really not so it just looks like random mood swings with no real reason or rhyme.

Every post is AI some are just more telling than others. I was going to scumread this reaction but I mostly can't, because the logical answer humans have to not understanding something is to call it incorrect/wrong and in mafia terms scummy

I think you're being simple minded. This is the base logic behind mafia yes mafia do want to look towny but 'towny' does not have a definition of what towny play and scummy play is or mafia would be much harder. The thought I get here is you would townread players who act bad and scumread people who act towny. I simply disagree with your outlook and going more into this would be useless theory talk and noise.

You're a legitimate riot lmfao.

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if nos scumreads kaede too I might be confident enough to sheep there based on an assumption that you both understand her well enough to read her decently, but I'd like a little more explanation than none from either of you

why does what I think matter?

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i appreciate the info on kaede, nosferatu

you shouldn't take me for an expert on kaede, i feel like you do.

i just read her posts and made a theory on what would explain her wonky tone, and stated it as fact because im arrogant like that.

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brian, would you like to hydra with me this game? you can control our (your) vote, but we discuss where it goes as a team (in our hydra PT - aka this thread).

lmfao


also brian's avatar is very similar to someone else's and i dont remember them

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@nosferatu i see
i assumed you had history
regardless u seem to have been correct

we do but i wouldnt write a dissertation on my ability to read kaede's every emotion


although I will undoubtedly try

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VOTE: kokichi

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Oh yes, Nos. I'm sure you can read me correctly. Weren't you the one scumreading me when I was obvious town in like last FakeGod game.

lmfao

what do you think is happening right now kokichi
im dying to know

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Neither did I; I just assumed this was one of those games where you pair off into lovers on D1 with the odd-man-out leaving the dance and from that point onward kills/lynches take out two people due to the lover mechanic.

this is just my highschool experience

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I don't think just because someone reads you incorrectly one game doesn't give the right to use it as an argument on why it's false.

I also didn't scumread him that game so it gets better

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I don't think just because someone reads you incorrectly one game doesn't give the right to use it as an argument on why it's false.

I also didn't scumread him that game so it gets better

That's half untrue, I definitely wanted him lynched for that game because he was intent on just roleplaying, posting anime reaction images, and doing dumb shit.

I never understood policy lynches until that game

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is this just a baccano avatar party now

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VOTE: nancy

gang

pedit: dont interrupt me

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I wouldn't call it fence sitting because that is a pool of suspects that nancy is interested in.

it's not fence-sitting - fence-sitting would be someone who's unable to decide (e.g. someone weighing up the pros and cons of something but being unable to decide which is more likely)

what she did is just a lack of commitment

was gonna say the same thing but i kept reading and lo and behold

i don't particularly feel like breaking this down into very minor details and explaining specifically what i don't like, so i will just float this out there and you can say whether you see why i might think this:

i currently think the most likely scum team is nancy-kaede-ginngie

subject to change on a whim if i feel like it

I'm okay with these reads.

My lynchpool is currently <Dunn, Hebi, Kaede, Nancy> with Ginn as a 'meh' read. Hebi I still think is an easy target. I do think Ginn's reaction to Moment is a little overblown.

Spoiler: Actual List of Reads That I'm Still Working On

My Hydra Partner
zMuffinMan

Town
Purrcocet
Human Sequencer
grapes
Nosferatu
Kokichi Oma
andriod18

Looks Town But I'm Super Unsure
Moment

Not Getting Lynched Today
mastina

Meh
Katsuki
Wisdom
Ginngie

Desired Lynches
Dunnstral
Kaede Akamatsu
hebichan
Nancy Drew 39

I did not remember how big this game was

why am I so high? I've been really tuned out of this game, usually a scumtell for me.

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tune in quickly please
otherwise i'm gonna have to scumread you

!

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{nancy, muffin, brian} <--- townreads so far

I'm gonna townhunt this game so I don't have to read as much (4 games and a piano concerto to write rn)

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nos why is muffin town?

because he often says things that im thinking and if he had a different alignment from me we probably wouldn't think the same things.

kokichi can be town too i think, i like the mood

nos why is muffin town?

I was about to ask this. And if he thinks him and Nancy are both town that he didn't try to talk to muffin and talk him out of the nancy case.

i didn't have a read on either of them until pretty recently.

not to say i would have stopped him either way; don't you think its fun to watch?

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VOTE: moment
let's find out then

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need 3 more votes on moment pls

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i see a bunch of people who think moment >>might<< be town that apparently don't wanna turn that >>might<< into an is/isn't situation.

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@android18: he hasn't scumposted to me.

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Brian is muffin's hydra partner so copy/paste what I said about muffin.

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i expected kaede to scumread me today, it makes sense

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Someone explain the moment case

well do you townread him?

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None of what you jsut said gives a reason to vote Moment

ye ok but he's either town or not, do you think he's town?

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HUELGA

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None of what you jsut said gives a reason to vote Moment

ye ok but he's either town or not, do you think he's town?

yes

ok why

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That isn't how this works, people who are voting him (including you) need to explain why he is a good vote (vs just naked voting him with approaching deadline)

ive made my intentions with this wagon pretty clear so if youre saying this then youre just being complicit in lynching him and the whole "but the burden of proof!!" shenanigans are useless.

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Could you restate those intentions for me, if you don't mind? I don't recall hearing you ever actually scumread me and on a review of you ISO all I see is this:

its right there

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If we dont lynch for 5 real time days I get an ability

I hope you werent lying

Me? Lying? Would I ever?

jesus christ

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Mastina you already voted me before. You sure you're paying attention? Why am I scum?

its for emphasis

hi Nos

where are your reads at right now

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

{nancy, muffin, brian, mastina}

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I can't wait for episode 2 of The Young and the Restless

i think its closer to general hospital given the mafia element

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uhhh this is very clearly a green flip

which one?

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ye probably

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whats your angle lmao

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Just gonna say, if town is really this derp to lynch me, do NOT expect me to claim so feel free to hammer me without waiting for a claim, but then the ball's on you,

I do blame myself for letting myself be hard buddied hard, but that's a weakness I have to work on anyway

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I was almost buying this . . . almost, until the bolded.

idk why, kaede gets buddied a lot.

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I dont get the grapes votes tbh

I don't either

me neither.

im on this wave tbh

VOTE: grapes

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Ill link you to specific kaede posts when i get home

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nosferatu is scum

i just wanna say that i disagree

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like aside from the AtE thing which is pretty NAI if you ask me, the reason she's being voted is pretty dumb

her voting nancy seems like a pretty fucking linear thought process? I don't see how town!kaede would not vote nancy when she did.

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Ill link you to specific kaede posts when i get home

is this still needed? Kokichi figured it out by himself

kokichi "figuring it out" was him quoting two posts and asking if they looked the same

and if you legitimately think that

You know what, whatever, if Wisdom decided to devolve back to the days of him tunneling town me, im not even gonna bother anymore because he's certain to just continue tunneling me until i end up replacing out of frustration, which is a thing i dont want to do ever again.

and

Yeah wisdom keep provoking me, that way i'll learn if i finally have been able to overcome my own emotions.

are emotional posts idk what to tell you

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who the fuck am i voting?

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oh grapes

well he can stay

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nos pls
Kaede can fake everything shes doing is the point

I've played with kaede many times

"she can fake everything" is like such a headass argument to lynch somebody for though

like you know that right?

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i mean the only reasons ive seen you give are that she voted nancy and she has the ability to fake emotion

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VOTE: nos

excited to see post game

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keep tellin yourself that

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at least one is town

that's legit the most useless info

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WAIT A SECOND LMFAOO

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who's scum, nosferatu?

do you have fun asking these questions?

we both know im not scumhunting

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ok?
VOTE: ginngie

idk where you wanna go with this vanity wagon

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at least one is town

that's legit the most useless info

Main character roles are stronger than normal roles

says who?

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like aside from the AtE thing which is pretty NAI if you ask me, the reason she's being voted is pretty dumb

her voting nancy seems like a pretty fucking linear thought process? I don't see how town!kaede would not vote nancy when she did.

this could be scum

but ytho

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can we just pick one? i dont care at this point

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tf is leviathan btw

VOTE: kaede

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what?

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ok

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tf is leviathan btw

VOTE: kaede

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... =Leviathan

tf is leviathan btw

My flavor name.

see this was you being extra my dude

at least one is town

that's legit the most useless info

Main character roles are stronger than normal roles

says who?

Says me

thats gonna be a doubt from me dawg

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Speaking of which im gonna go over to muffin's reads list and check why he TRs kokichi.

technically a Neapolitan is different from a vanilla cop but continue

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no, the main reason ive been okay with her lynch is she makes sense as scum with moment

which would be obvious if you were reading the game

i forgot to a reply, but you've literally never said this.

read your own iso

VOTE: ginngie

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you know it really bothers me that a18's name has a spelling error in it

like to an unnecessary degree

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VOTE: moment then

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no, the main reason ive been okay with her lynch is she makes sense as scum with moment

which would be obvious if you were reading the game

i forgot to a reply, but you've literally never said this.

read your own iso

VOTE: ginngie

Ill quote later if you need but this is stupid
Go to where i voted kaede and youll see i wanted to stay on moment but eventually reluctantly moved to kaede
In general you can find my reasons by following the flow of the game, i dont make cases

yeah i could infer it but its a stretch to call it obvious
i dont care enough to ask you to quote it

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just because youre a weak player and cant figure out scum on d1 it doesnt mean theres anything wrong with site meta
enjoy pushing your nolynch

did I even spell that right?
devoid, divoid, divide, divie....

GAH english is hard.

you used the right spelling but its a verb so you can't use it the way you did.

Dunno why, but this just popped into my mind.

Spoiler:

Subject: Micro 753: Votefuckery (Game Over)

mkay when I read through those exchanges I'll keep that in mind.

tho I kinda want to remind ya something if ya don't mind.

And keep in mind this happens to me too, and this is something I also tend to manipulate as scum

But ya know how a bunch of people like Cowbells have these insane ego battles and they dominate games based on these battles and they use anger to help control the game?
Its male manipulative and kinda reflective of the real world if you think about it.
I wanna quote Camn on it because I'm basicly trying to paraphrase mostly what she said about this kind of stuff.

In real life, men wouldnt speak to each other like this.. because fist-fights and murder would ensue. But they would talk to US this way.. and many times we would simply capitulate. OR we DO talk back... and fist-fights and murder ensue, only we never win.
This is also true, historically, here on ms.net. Often the men involved can handle the purifying flame of CAPSRAGE and hate.. and some of us (not all!) but some, we don't handle it well. We stop playing. we replace out. whatever. And almost always the game sucks.

Either way, I don't think its a good time for either of ywall to start mealting down and taking this personally.
You're trying to ignore him however that sends the message to Bee that you can be bullied so he's continueing to do it.

I think the best way to deal with these types of things is to just defuse them if you are aware that its happening.

I don't think now is the best time for a 1v1 with Beeboy mostly because others haven't shown up.
Sure he is most likely scum, and if you two were to 1v1 I'd probably end up voting him in a heartbeat if my vote wasn't locked.
(Now that I think about it a Gladiator might exist in this game that can solve the freezing problem)

I mean
when it comes to the 1v1 then fucking burn him with fire.

But not everyone has posted yet, we're not even 24 hours into the day.
That's not the thing to be doing right now.

So just find a way to defuse it and calm it down.

cause guys totally dont have screaming matches with each other on a daily basis lmfao

Someone recount to make sure we have enough

8 votes iirc

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didnt see ank's vote

we got it

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inb4 scum vanillize themselves

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VOTE: ginngie

l-3

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pagetop

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purr just claimed vig

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It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped

especially since i visited muffin last night

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who are the scum sheeping

besides nos

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Nos can you explain more?

I'm not cc'ing the watcher claim. I visited muffin's slot last night.

So either katsuki thinks that 2 scum members visited the same person at once or this is a crazy gambit

he was being satirical lol

no he wasn't lol

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UNVOTE: ginngie

Y'ALL ARE ACTUALLY SERIOUS LMFAOOO

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lmao i dont mind lynching ginngie, i went along with the gambit for a reason

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im being deadass

i visited muffins last night

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bruh im from ny i mean business when i say deadass

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cause i wanted to see how far cupcake would go

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bruh im from ny i mean business when i say deadass

word to my mother son *adjusts fitted* *polishes timbs*

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Andriod seems like a poor shot based on vca

how good would you say you are at vca?

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Okay, sure. Maybe it's a four-scum game.

Considering there's 15 players I'm like 70% sure there's 4 scum

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Game isn't called Minuet's quadruplet

u right

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Nos, if you're being serious about visiting Muffin, is there a reason why you can't claim?

I mean why do I have to

it's kinda secondary to the issues at hand.

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Nos, if you're being serious about visiting Muffin, is there a reason why you can't claim?

I mean why do I have to

it's kinda secondary to the issues at hand.

Okay. New question.

Do you think it's possible for there to be any merit in what Katsuki claimed today?

no lol I thought that was self-evident

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That makes a lot of sense since I visited mastina cupcake

I would also like to point out how, instead of checking literally anyone else (like Andriod who indicated he was a PR), Ginngie went ahead and 'visited' someone who claimed to be basically conftown

tomorrow

.

Well really he visited someone who was going to say "well here's why I went with this fakeclaim" in a huge wall with a vote on some rando tomorrow

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Yeah, I don't really like this avatar. Isaac is super scummy. But it's hard to turn down an in-thread hydra with Muffin.

well muffin's dead now so

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Yeah, I don't really like this avatar. Isaac is super scummy. But it's hard to turn down an in-thread hydra with Muffin.

well muffin's dead now so

But his avatar still lives on.

a noble cause

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ouch

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How do you guys even plan on playing this game out after Ginngie's scumflip?

with as little foresight as possible


this is a scumclaim btw

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It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped

especially since i visited muffin last night

This isn't the scumclaim I thought it was, but I still think this slot is very likely scum mainly because of tone.

ok but you're wrong

How interesting.
Muffin's last sets of reads was to lynch, ank, nos, ginggie and andriod (i think?), and nos and ginggie were his strongest scumreads.
katsuki says ginggie alone visited muffin and nos is counterclaiming that he also visited muffin

Is it not weird that from katsuki starts attacking ginggie, and nos is counterclaiming it, and ankamius is calling it a scum-gambit?

Ok stop me when I'm wrong,

you're saying is that me ginngie and ank are all scum together
me and ank are de-legitimizing katsuki's claim
while at the same time ank distances by calling me scum
and neither of us vote katsuki so ginngie can get lynched
when I could have easily cc'd her before the ginngie wagon built momentum
instead of bussing the fuck out of a useless lurkslot

That right?

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More like trying to save ginngie.
I'm putting Ank in the back burner for now because im starting to believe her.
What i think is most likely is you are scum with ginngie.

im thoroughly interested in why

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More like trying to save ginngie.
I'm putting Ank in the back burner for now because im starting to believe her.
What i think is most likely is you are scum with ginngie.

im thoroughly interested in why

Except I already explained why.

oh thats the whole reason...

yikes

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It's literally a question that will connect almost everything in the game and will have clarity.

im quite frankly amazed you guys even want the question when the answer is grilled cheese sandwiches cut diagonally

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I just looked up "cutting sandwiches into octets" just to make sure that wasn't a thing

I call hammer rights on this heathen

As his scumbuddy I deserve this right

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Why would you tell them that! log kya kahenge!

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i was gonna hit y'all with that 42 but grilled cheese

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you blocked two people last night?

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because blocking katsuki's ability to gambit was far more important than blocking the scumread who is an outed PR

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every time

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why didnt u jailkeep muffin N1.

I blocked two scumreads.

who did you block then

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mastina you crack me up holy

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VOTE: Purrcocet.

Purr's got some 'splaining to do.

Actual claim: Night 2 Vig; last night, I shot Purrcocet.

(And yes, it's spelled that way. Not Vigilante; Vig. Not N2, Night 2.)

Purrcocet, a scumread of mine no less!, claimed my fucking role. He fucking claimed Night 2 vigilante. I had been

planning

to shoot someone like, say, Kokichi Oma, but as a vig the correct play is to always just fucking shoot your counterclaim especially when you don't get the chance to fucking talk all of D2.

I was basically breadcrumbing this role in every fucking post of mine (I can pull up my VERY specific wordings in a bit), but.
The reasoning for the fakeclaim should be self-evident. I said on D3 I would be an innocent child; that's because you don't fucking give a vigilante to a scum player, and the proof would be in the second nightkill with me having killed Purrcocet. (Well originally I was planning on shooting Kokichi, but. Yaknow. Claimed my exact fucking role, and all that.) By claiming D3 Innocent Child, I would lead scum to think I had no night action; by claiming D3 innocent child, I would lead players to think that I was utterly harmless before D3.

But for SOME fucking reason.

Purrcocet isn't dead.

So.

Purrcocet.
You've got some 'splainin' to do.

That makes a lot of sense since I visited mastina cupcake

I would also like to point out how, instead of checking literally anyone else (like Andriod who indicated he was a PR), Ginngie went ahead and 'visited' someone who claimed to be basically conftown

tomorrow

.

Well really he visited someone who was going to say "well here's why I went with this fakeclaim" in a huge wall with a vote on some rando tomorrow

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I also dont get how anyone thinks ank fakeclaims what she claimed

She could have just claimed jk on purr and argue katsuki is bsing without claiming a block there

Now shes forced herself to give two block targets for n1 (and for the rest of the game if she lives) which is certain to get her caught

She could be a double role blocker or a double mafia jailkkeper.

It doesn’t make any sense that she JK Katsuki over Nos. Think about it.

nancy is right here though.

protecting katsuki even though ank thought that the katsuki's result was a gambit over blocking a PR scumread makes no sense.

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how long do we have to wait until mastina sees that ank jailed purr

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VOTE: ank

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what are the odds that scum claim your exact role, modifier and all

like bruh

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if he claimed even night vig i would understand but the shot is ???

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get ready

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yerr

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every time lmao

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was grapes an mc?

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oh ank nvm

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NO NEED FOR MASSCLAIM LOL WE CAN JUST LYNCH WISDOM

I WANNA PROVE I CAN LYNCH YOU WITHOUT A FAKECLAIM ANYWAYS

VOTE: WISDOM

Wisdom is town

So people have just been randomly receiving messages each night that Nos is town?

:S

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no actually

wisdom is town

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I'll just uhh

VOTE: Dunn

i'll just say that i think mastina is town

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