Newbie 1876 - Game Over!

[Skygazer]

Ice, do you have any other scum reads besides E2.7?

[nonny]

Nonny I'm tone reading you as guarded and defensive.

I could see that. Not sure how to change it, but thank you for answering my question. I'm probably taking everything too seriously, I'll try to lighten up. Downside to be a perfectionist

In what way are you a perfectionist nonny?

Just personality quirk, I put pressure on myself to do everything "correctly" even when there is no quantifiably correct action.

Welcome skygazer, good to have a fresh set of eyes, interested to see what you think.

I agree with Bins feeling town lead, but as stated IC does have advantage of being seen as a mentor.

I wish that there was a designated person who had an IC-like role but was not playing, therefore you could ask questions that might reveal your role ("So I found 2 townies as Cop, should I reveal now or later?" or "Should I, as scum, pretend to be a Tracker to try and win this LyLo?") without compromising the game.

Could be an interesting theme, like a omnipotent NPC. But scum already has an advantage. I'm curious when it changed from being able to talk only at night to them being allowed to talk all the time, I tried to look into this after reading the rules over day 1. I'm guessing it was changed because it's hard to enforce something like that.

[Jackal711]

VOTE COUNT 1.3

TrinityNZ (1) - GuerillaWoo
GuerillaWoo (0) -
2 718281828459 (3) - nonny, IcemanCh, Formerfish
Skygazer (0) -
IcemanCh (0) -
nonny (2) - Bins, brassherald
Formerfish (0) -
brassherald (1) - TrinityNZ
Bins (0) -

Not Voting: Skygazer, 2 718281828459

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Sunday, July 1st at 11:15 am PDT which is in

(expired on 2018-07-01 11:15:00)

[TrinityNZ]

Can you describe what intuits to you that I'm town? I feel like I haven't actually said anything AI.

If you were actually town, why would you ask this question? This seems a strange question to ask.

[TrinityNZ]

Welcome stargazer.

[Bins]

Welcome Stargazer!


To everyone else, it's always good to be using your vote. Pressuring people with a vote may be the only way you can get a proper read on them.

VOTE: brassherald
because his townread on me seems a little easy and maybe too preemptive.

[Bins]

Seriously?

I am saying Bins is town, GuerillaWoo is a scum lean.

It's really simple sorting of slots.

Why do you think Bins is town?

She's been open about her thought process, has been posing the question, then giving a response to whether somewhat scummy actions are scum motivated rather than let people like me (paranoid jerks) just run with what may be a mislynch.

If she's not town, she's doing a heck of a job hiding it right now.

By way of a side note, even if I thought she was scummy, I would not be advocating for her lynch since I am past pushing for a day 1 lynch of ICs. I'd need to look into the numbers of it, but I don't know that the IC slot of a newbie game has ever been lynched day 1. This is mostly trivia to talk about since it is irrelevant here.

Trinity is also townlean, good questions.

Actually, this post is interesting. I can't tell if I think this post gets scummier or more town.

The first part is an easy read.
You say you're paranoid and I like paranoid; paranoia always feels town. But the second line reads the opposite of paranoid, which is why I don't like it.

But the last part is a thought process that I'm not sure a scum player would post.


I'mma think about it.

[IcemanCh]

Ice, do you have any other scum reads besides E2.7?

At the moment no. So far nothing is screaming out to me as Scum. I'm kind of leaning town on Brass and FormerFish but, there's not really enough to go off yet. I'm only leaning town on those two because they seem to be actively scum hunting and that always makes me think town.

Everyone else is so far nuetral.

E2.7 might be scum but, it's worth noting that it might just be a new player. In the last game he was still learning what all of the different abbreviations meant. If he was scum with say FormerFish then FormerFish could easily be coaching him to come off exactly the way he did in the last game.

[Bins]

The way E2.7 says "this might not be protocol" is so cute I can't!

[GuerillaWoo]

Can you describe what intuits to you that I'm town? I feel like I haven't actually said anything AI.

If you were actually town, why would you ask this question? This seems a strange question to ask.

Scum will try to buddy you

[GuerillaWoo]

Ok I'm actually back to scumreading nonny. Being self-deprecating as a gameplay defense never goes over well for me. Always reads like dodging.

It's VOTE: nonny for me

[Skygazer]

VOTE: Ice

107 seems very noncommittal and kind of waffley to me, which isn't too big of a deal since it's early, but I also haven't seen them engage much at all other than to call out the obvious problems with E2.7's post and to ask E2.7 for reads. If Ice is so on the fence, I would think they'd be engaging more, asking questions, etc.

[Skygazer]

But the last part is a thought process that I'm not sure a scum player would post.

Why is that?

[2 718281828459]

Unofficial vote count

TrinityNZ (0) -
GuerillaWoo (0) -
2 718281828459 (3) - nonny, IcemanCh, Formerfish
Skygazer (0) -
IcemanCh (1) - Skygazer
nonny (2) - brassherald, GuerillaWoo
Formerfish (0) -
brassherald (3) - TrinityNZ, Bins, 2.718
Bins (0) -

I am going to follow Bins's advice and also VOTE: brassherald, who is now 2 away from a lynch.

Skygazer's vote seems unwarranted but then again that is what all early day 1 votes are. Currently skygazer and IcemanCh are neutral to me.

[2 718281828459]

Hello all, thank you for what I can only assume will be a very warm welcome.

I mean... I still have a little bit of lean on nonny = Scum, although not as strongly as before..

Why is that?

Not sure anymore. I think it was something involving earlier posts and a mood of defensiveness.

[Bins]

OK, lmfao. I may be losing a grasp of my Numbers townread.

[nonny]

Ok I'm actually back to scumreading nonny. Being self-deprecating as a gameplay defense never goes over well for me. Always reads like dodging.

It's VOTE: nonny for me

Starting to think you just read any thing I say in a negative light, even with the added emoticons.

[Jackal711]

VOTE COUNT 1.4

TrinityNZ (0) -
GuerillaWoo (0) -
2 718281828459 (3) - nonny, IcemanCh, Formerfish
Skygazer (0) -
IcemanCh (1) - Skygazer
nonny (2) - brassherald, GuerillaWoo
Formerfish (0) -
brassherald (3) - TrinityNZ, Bins, 2 718281828459
Bins (0) -

Not Voting:

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Sunday, July 1st at 11:15 am PDT which is in

(expired on 2018-07-01 11:15:00)

[GuerillaWoo]

Ok I'm actually back to scumreading nonny. Being self-deprecating as a gameplay defense never goes over well for me. Always reads like dodging.

It's VOTE: nonny for me

Starting to think you just read any thing I say in a negative light, even with the added emoticons.

I read everything in a negative light. Once you get duped in this game you realize people will actually go to extents to fuck with you.

[GuerillaWoo]

But am I wrong here, like what's her post up there appealing to other than sympathy?

[2 718281828459]

I may be losing a grasp of my Numbers townread.

Um, I thought we were supposed to pressure people by voting for them?

To everyone else, it's always good to be using your vote. Pressuring people with a vote may be the only way you can get a proper read on them.
VOTE: brassherald

Is there a reason why adding more pressure to the player

you

voted for (within reason, but I doubt two scum would instantly jump on this wagon unless they were suicidal) causes you to lose the townread?

Or am I misinterpreting something?

[brassherald]

I doubt two scum would instantly jump on this wagon unless they were suicidal

Hey, a bonafide scumslip.

VOTE: 2 718281828459

The only reason that two scum jumping on THIS wagon would be suicidal is if you already know that I'm town.

Only way you know this is if you are scum.

[TrinityNZ]

Ok I’m changing votes. Thinking more about brassherald, he seemed to be a bit annoyed early in, and I firstly was suspicious of this. Now though I think he wouldn’t have done that if he was scum. Nonny on the other hand, is coming across as more suspicious by being self-deprecating, as someone else mentioned.

As for numbers, I think he is Bri g a bit naive. It could be deliberate, to try to throw us off, but I don’t think so at this point. So

UNVOTE: brassherald

VOTE: nonny

[IcemanCh]

VOTE: Ice

107 seems very noncommittal and kind of waffley to me, which isn't too big of a deal since it's early, but I also haven't seen them engage much at all other than to call out the obvious problems with E2.7's post and to ask E2.7 for reads. If Ice is so on the fence, I would think they'd be engaging more, asking questions, etc.

I of course disagree. If I hadn't played with E2.7 in the previous game I would be 100% convinced he was scum. Because I have played with him it makes my read less sure. That's why I'm making sure people have information about his prior play. I also have not engaged much because I like to sit and observe in the early game. Especially considering that I'm newer to this site and still learning the meta. I've also been very very busy at work.


Anyways... Post 120 makes me more confident in the scum read on E2.7.

[GuerillaWoo]

Ok I’m changing votes. Thinking more about brassherald, he seemed to be a bit annoyed early in, and I firstly was suspicious of this. Now though I think he wouldn’t have done that if he was scum. Nonny on the other hand, is coming across as more suspicious by being self-deprecating, as someone else mentioned.

As for numbers, I think he is Bri g a bit naive. It could be deliberate, to try to throw us off, but I don’t think so at this point. So

UNVOTE: brassherald

VOTE: nonny

Why is self-deprecation suspicious? How is being light-hearted or charismatic more deserving of a vote than irritability? The latter shows a distinct lack of confidence.