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brassherald he/himJack of All Tradeshe/him
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I'm not super concerned with your read because it's wrong, it's been wrong, and you have not made any compelling case to sway anyone to your read on me, so, no, I'm good without asking about it. If you want to share something about it, don't be scared, you can just talk like anyone else here.
It can even be about any of your reads of the 7 other players you need to read in this game.
So, in short, I have no questions, read is wrong.I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.-
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Formerfish Busboy Revolutionary
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You could talk about this Bins. I have a wall post out there with your name on it too with some questions.In post 45, Bins wrote:
Sus, why?In post 41, brassherald wrote:I'm fine with putting a wagon to L-2 this early.
VOTE: nonny
Early read, this is sus.
I voted nonny for a reason too, but it was more just tonal. Anything in particular?-
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Skygazer anyFor My Next Guestany
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Has anyone ever heard of a tactic before where a scum will say they’ve been away for a few days and asking everyone to hold off on lynching someone. And then it turns out they were partners? Could Bins’ absence have been meant to just give time for things to cool down against 2.7, if they are partners?-
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Skygazer anyFor My Next Guestany
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TrinityNZ Goon
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GuerillaWoo he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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The only complaint I have about lynching Bins is that I kind of do not to lynch the IC on day 1. I am sure that if we think she is scum we can kill her off before LyLo, but if she is town then we would be killing a valuable "soft" asset (soft, as opposed to a "hard" asset like a PR). The IC, if town, can be the key to the town's success, especially in LyLo's.
In fact, in my first game, we lynched the IC on day 1, and lost. Yes, correlation does not imply causation and there were plenty of other factors, but still.
Brass, why did you say
Would you not have seen Bins' post 7 minutes before? (Or did you not see that there was a 14th page?)It can even be about any of your reads of the 7 other players youneed to readin this game.. I have no replacement.Retired Account
After 2 years (almost exactly!) of inactivity I am giving MafiaScum a second chance...
Nah. I'm gone. Again.-
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nonny Mafia Scum
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It still stands out to me, that he said "I thought we don't lynch non CC PR" (paraphrased). That is significant regardless. But leans towards nervous scum that panicked and thought they found a "get out of jail free" card. He obviously was feel pressured, or he wouldn't have claimed, the claim was rushed as well. The messiness of it lends to inexperienced player with no guidance, a townie may have said "hey guys, do you want me to claim?" whereas a scum would have asked his partner. Maybe reading too far into it, but my guess is the latter and the partner was absent long enough to make 2.7 nervous and jump the gun.In post 298, Bins wrote:I've been reading E as completely freaked out at this game and it's protocols. Not sure if fakeclaiming is really something I see happening from him as scum, but maybe he was misreading how screwed he was. Like when he asked the other player in this game to claim.
Why? Your original vote did not have that much to go on, and you have not elaborated since.In post 305, Bins wrote:I think brassherald is still my strongest scumread. I have pretty much every other slot at varying levels of town, which I'll try and get into.
In post 324, Bins wrote:I’m hesitant to straight up say my townreads if we’re about to lose our doctor.
What does this mean? How does a lack of doctor effect townreads? For all we know currently there isn't even a doctor in play. Is the assumption doc 2.7 would be protecting you tonight? What could you have to share that is that valuable/harmful?
In post 333, TrinityNZ wrote:Has anyone ever heard of a tactic before where a scum will say they’ve been away for a few days and asking everyone to hold off on lynching someone. And then it turns out they were partners? Could Bins’ absence have been meant to just give time for things to cool down against 2.7, if they are partners?
Scum are notorious for lurking, and jumping in when something may actually happen that causes them issue. So, I wouldn't say it's unheard of
/curiousIn post 335, Skygazer wrote:I don't think lynching Bins today is the best idea for the record, for reasons I don't want to talk about yet.
Lynching Bins has only been casually discussed at this point, so this feels premature. Secondly, having a scum IC can be just as harmful as having a town IC is helpful. Really it is just perspective, alignment, etc. So far this game Bins hasn't contributed a lot IC wise other than the initial intro which leaned towards being promising IC play.In post 340, 2 718281828459 wrote:The only complaint I have about lynching Bins is that I kind of do not to lynch the IC on day 1. I am sure that if we think she is scum we can kill her off before LyLo, but if she is town then we would be killing a valuable "soft" asset (soft, as opposed to a "hard" asset like a PR). The IC, if town, can be the key to the town's success, especially in LyLo's.
In fact, in my first game, we lynched the IC on day 1, and lost. Yes, correlation does not imply causation and there were plenty of other factors, but still.
Brass, why did you say
Would you not have seen Bins' post 7 minutes before? (Or did you not see that there was a 14th page?)It can even be about any of your reads of the 7 other players youneed to readin this game.
Brass is correct, Bins could discuss those reads more. All she did was list the active players (minus one) and give her alignment reads. There was no reasoning, no "evidence", etc. It's a soft read if anything, and I agree with Brass saying she could expand if she's keen too. Especially since she breadcrumbed having more on Brass but not wanting to reveal it unless Brass himself was worried.
It's been well over the 24hours that Bins requested and the contribution as everyone has said was sparse at best. Still agree we have nothing concrete until we have a lynch and that 2.7 is the best lynch right now. I would like to see more from Bins but it feels like pulling teeth at this point. I'm leaning scum on Bins or Trinity, the latter could just be clouded by newbness, obviously depends on how 2.7 flips. Do we think 5 more days is going to reveal a whole lot more, or is it just posturing?
VOTE: 2.7 So when we do agree on hammer it'll be easy to do.*insert bad joke here*-
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nonny Mafia Scum
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It's been over 24 hrs, just saying. *shrug*In post 274, Bins wrote:Hi all, been in Paris. I’ll post tomorrow when I’m back at work!
Haven’t read the last two pages. But there’s no reason to rush anything just yet.
In the future please let us know if you are going to be away like this. It takes only a few seconds to do a simple "V/LA a few days due to (reason)" post. -Mod*insert bad joke here*-
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VOTE COUNT 1.11
TrinityNZ (1) - Skygazer
GuerillaWoo (0) -
2 718281828459 (4) - Formerfish, IcemanCh, TrinityNZ, nonny
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IcemanCh (1) - brassherald
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brassherald (2) - Bins, 2 718281828459
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Not Voting: GuerillaWoo
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
Day 1 deadline is Sunday, July 1st at 11:15 am PDT which is in(expired on 2018-07-01 11:15:00)-
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nonny Mafia Scum
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Maybe, post where she was upset about the 24hrs was past tense, so went to v/la post. Not in a rush.In post 346, GuerillaWoo wrote:You're counting from the wrong post nonny :p June 25th at 10 pm UTC, still like 14 hours*insert bad joke here*-
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Bins Survivor
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This is a pretty meh reaction to me. Scum always try and look like they don’t care.In post 326, brassherald wrote:I'm not super concerned with your read because it's wrong, it's been wrong, and you have not made any compelling case to sway anyone to your read on me, so, no, I'm good without asking about it. If you want to share something about it, don't be scared, you can just talk like anyone else here.
It can even be about any of your reads of the 7 other players you need to read in this game.
So, in short, I have no questions, read is wrong.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to set a E red flip to me, I don’t defend a partner to the death like this. I release how condemning this would be as scum.
@Guerrilla - It was more I need to address some questions had to me and I’ve been on mobile. When I get my internet at work today, I’ll be able to respond to more @Bins posts.
If you really want to hammer, feel free. I have said my reads.
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