SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE
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Okay... why would that make Fire's claim fake rather than the result flawed?In post 1721, MariaR wrote:Check my rankings esp was one of my top townreads and his reaction felt legit to me. I felt it was more likely fire was bsing in some way IE gambit or just fakeclaiming then having a srs guilty on one of my top townreads yes. If it was on someone I was scumreading I wouldn't have had an issue.-
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When I called the claim fake he was just claiming outright cop not "my cop result can be incorrect" and that is much more believable then an outright cop with a result on my top trIn post 1728, Shoshin wrote:
Okay... why would that make Fire's claim fake rather than the result flawed?In post 1721, MariaR wrote:Check my rankings esp was one of my top townreads and his reaction felt legit to me. I felt it was more likely fire was bsing in some way IE gambit or just fakeclaiming then having a srs guilty on one of my top townreads yes. If it was on someone I was scumreading I wouldn't have had an issue.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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You can lynch me tomorrow but not today take your vote off me because it's taking info away from scum about Chara/me if you keep it on I'm considering it a scumclaim (even if I already sr your slot)In post 1726, Commander Shepard wrote:VOTE: MariaR
Fire Shoshin MariaR
Punreader SK
This game is coming together beautifully.
Pedit: If he can't be a cop >> You're a cop >> Ergo confirmed scum. It's a counterclaim. That's a thing.
That's also hyperbole. Examining reads is something everyone should be doing.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Ah ok that's fair enough then. That's just how I act for the most part but I obv can't give any reason why it's more likely to come from town me (cause it's not)In post 1725, Shoshin wrote:Maria, what I mean is you had a lot of posts that didn't have any scumhunting purpose, like, "give me a 10," "nice to see I'm townread," "this is why I haven't been posting," "I'm town," type of posts.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I'm actually surprised there aren't more powers based on the rankings. Scum lied about the numbers for a reason.In post 1728, Shoshin wrote:
Okay... why would that make Fire's claim fake rather than the result flawed?In post 1721, MariaR wrote:Check my rankings esp was one of my top townreads and his reaction felt legit to me. I felt it was more likely fire was bsing in some way IE gambit or just fakeclaiming then having a srs guilty on one of my top townreads yes. If it was on someone I was scumreading I wouldn't have had an issue.
If any of the cop claims are genuine I'm actually leaning towards Fires mechanically simply because it uses the rankings.
Pedit Because of your PP unvote. It was horrible. You spent a majority of the thread talking about PP and then unvote him and haven't actually seemed to do any reevaluating of the slot. A majority of your reasons PP is scum also don't link to PP's meta.-
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Neither of me or fire are doing this. Fire is also not mech scum and the fact you keep ignoring that is tellingIn post 1727, Commander Shepard wrote:And yeah I believe there's no cop claims right now. Neither of them are acting like cops should act. I think they're using too much information andtrying to ride the cred.
You do when it's a guilty and the guy is getting run up to L-1 very fast. Cause then you get lynched when they flip town.In post 1732, Shoshin wrote:Cops don't usually say their results might be wrong when they claim, especially when they've been scumreading the person they got a guilty on.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Shepard unvote me in your next post I'm linked to Chara that is all you need to know we're not giving scum anymore info then that so unless you sr both me and Chara unvote.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Not always. Especially in Face To Face mafia. If you assume that there is at least one cop in MariaR and Fire then naturally scum would have some sort of defense against it. Having the results be sane/insane depending on the rankings makes sense.In post 1735, MariaR wrote:
Neither of me or fire are doing this. Fire is also not mech scum and the fact you keep ignoring that is tellingIn post 1727, Commander Shepard wrote:And yeah I believe there's no cop claims right now. Neither of them are acting like cops should act. I think they're using too much information andtrying to ride the cred.
You do when it's a guilty and the guy is getting run up to L-1 very fast. Cause then you get lynched when they flip town.In post 1732, Shoshin wrote:Cops don't usually say their results might be wrong when they claim, especially when they've been scumreading the person they got a guilty on.
Pedit: If you're a cop then you'd be counter claiming or arguing there'd be two cops. It's pretty straight forward. Either vote Fire or you're full of shit.
Pedit2: Chara said your votes are linked. Are you linked some other way? I don't see a reason I shouldn't be voting my top scumread, especially when you don't actually vote who you scumread and instead vote me.-
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Shoshin Jack of All Trades
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I don't really think that's true, Maria. I've never seen a cop qualify their result when its a guilty on a scumread. I'm also having trouble believing that you'd think Fire was scum just because he didn't qualify his result by saying it could be wrong, as if any result ever needs that qualification.-
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I don't understand how you read my unvote as a scum-tell. If I were town in that situation, you think I'd have ignored the new information and kept pushing PP?In post 1734, Commander Shepard wrote:Because of your PP unvote. It was horrible. You spent a majority of the thread talking about PP and then unvote him and haven't actually seemed to do any reevaluating of the slot. A majority of your reasons PP is scum also don't link to PP's meta.
What do you mean my reasons don't linke to PP's meta? And I gave my reasons before even looking at any of his games, so I'm not sure what that has to do with my alignment.-
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MariaR Alternatively,
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I outright claimed that I'm not just a cop in the post youIn post 1737, Commander Shepard wrote:Pedit: If you're a cop then you'd be counter claiming or arguing there'd be two cops. It's pretty straight forward. Either vote Fire or you're full of shit.claimedto read.
That's what me and Chara are trying to do hold the info we don't answer. We are linked vote wise maybe that's it maybe it's not we're not saying and if you tr Chara you should hold off on voting me. I also sr your slot hard I outright cased the slot you replaced into a page before you came inIn post 1737, Commander Shepard wrote:Pedit2: Chara said your votes are linked. Are you linked some other way? I don't see a reason I shouldn't be voting my top scumread, especially when you don't actually vote who you scumread and instead vote me.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Because cops are important town roles and we want their night actions?In post 1697, Commander Shepard wrote:Furthermore if you believe there can’t be two cops why is this not a 1v1 for both claimed cops?
Even if one of the cops is scum (which I don't think is true), lynching between them wouldn't be a good idea right now at risk of hitting cop-
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He handled the claim incorrectly Sho he gets a guilty or an inno depending on the rankings of the playerlist that is outright fact that the result can be wrong. So when fire comes up claims a guilty and only retracts itIn post 1738, Shoshin wrote:I don't really think that's true, Maria. I've never seen a cop qualify their result when its a guilty on a scumread. I'm also having trouble believing that you'd think Fire was scum just because he didn't qualify his result by saying it could be wrong, as if any result ever needs that qualification.afterI cc him you don't see the issue in this? I didn't believe he was a straightforward cop because I had that part of the role a rankings cop makes much more sense yes but at the time he was just outright saying he was a cop with a guilty.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I don't believe that town has 0 investigative roles so if nobody else says anything I don't think they can be a pairIn post 1706, Taly wrote:Actually, I've made multiple posts entertaining this idea and questioning Maria/Fire as a pair, and it's driving me a bit crazy. Nobody seems interested too interested in that though...-
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In this situation, it does need the qualification, though. It's strange not to, when you know that your result is going to be wrong depending on the rankings.In post 1738, Shoshin wrote:I don't really think that's true, Maria. I've never seen a cop qualify their result when its a guilty on a scumread. I'm also having trouble believing that you'd think Fire was scum just because he didn't qualify his result by saying it could be wrong, as if any result ever needs that qualification.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I think just because someone linked you a post doesn't make the reasons NOT meta related invalid.In post 1739, Shoshin wrote:
I don't understand how you read my unvote as a scum-tell. If I were town in that situation, you think I'd have ignored the new information and kept pushing PP?In post 1734, Commander Shepard wrote:Because of your PP unvote. It was horrible. You spent a majority of the thread talking about PP and then unvote him and haven't actually seemed to do any reevaluating of the slot. A majority of your reasons PP is scum also don't link to PP's meta.
What do you mean my reasons don't linke to PP's meta? And I gave my reasons before even looking at any of his games, so I'm not sure what that has to do with my alignment.
Furthermore, if you're using a meta argument and evaluating it, you'd have to read that entire game to obtain the context in which the post came from and compare it to this one here and see if they are similar.
A simple POST is not enough to unvote.
That you gave non meta reasons is my fucking point.
The post doesn't have any relation to those non meta reasons, so those non meta reasons should still be reasons you scumread the slot.
So your arguments for PP scum are
(A bunch of non meta reasons and meta reason) someone gives post
You still have (A bunch of non meta reasons and a meta reason that needs a reread)
Since you haven't actually reevaluated anything and seen how that post compares to your meta reasons you're very likely scum.
Pedit what? You're not a cop...Then how did the Vax shit happen? *goes back to relook*-
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^^^^^^In post 1744, ManWithNoName wrote:
In this situation, it does need the qualification, though. It's strange not to, when you know that your result is going to be wrong depending on the rankings.In post 1738, Shoshin wrote:I don't really think that's true, Maria. I've never seen a cop qualify their result when its a guilty on a scumread. I'm also having trouble believing that you'd think Fire was scum just because he didn't qualify his result by saying it could be wrong, as if any result ever needs that qualification.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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You're claiming cop here. So which is it? Are you or are you not a cop?
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