Yeah, I was talking about lucky and unrealIn post 122, AP wrote:If you mean Lucky vs Unreal, I think so too. CJV isn't though.In post 120, BlackStar wrote:This feels like TvT to me
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You're right on AP imo.In post 108, UnrealSeal wrote:I get some town vibes from AP but I'm not ready to actually call him town yet. He's only posted theory so far with a votepark on himself, and has not done any actual scum/townhunting so far. I'd suggest wagoning the fuck out of him if his activity begins dropping once theory-crafting dies down.
MM feels very much like new!town with all the vote hopping. Not-Mafia's vote on him feels like a genuine Town!Not_Mafia vote but I think it's misplaced.
VOTE: LuckyOtter 105 is pretty bad (CJ's bothered because he has meta reads on you, not just because your disengaged. I don't think there's a way to misunderstand that without doing so purposefully) and the 82 vote feels rather opportunistic.
I'm to the site, but not to FM. And "vote hopping" as you say is my meta.
N_M didn't post enough for me to read him. Why do you believe he's town for some unexplained votes?
:O why are you saying that? I didn't feel the 105 was scummy.Norweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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..........what? Wtf is that? VOTE: Ceejayvinova
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Before you got voted up, it did, actually. But right now, I believe you're town. And I believe this entire thing with you and the Seal is a town vs town argument.In post 119, LuckyOtter wrote:Did you read through my last game? Does it feel like a large discrepancy? (CJ and Sando can weigh in on this, too). How much are you reading me for this game vs. CJ's meta read?
So you obviously understand the value of using votes to place some early pressure, because in your eyes that's what CJ is doing. But somehow, my vote on MM must be scummy because it is not a genuine scumread. I couldn't possibly just be trying to feel MM out, a person who you are not certain about either?
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"this" being who vs who?In post 120, BlackStar wrote:This feels like TvT to meNorweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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Oh lol ignore #129. I think that too.In post 125, BlackStar wrote:
Yeah, I was talking about lucky and unrealIn post 122, AP wrote:
If you mean Lucky vs Unreal, I think so too. CJV isn't though.In post 120, BlackStar wrote:This feels like TvT to meNorweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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@Korina, what do the numbers next to our names mean? I thought it was the votes on us, but apparently no...
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It's N_M's meta. He plays in a way that makes him very easy to sort.In post 126, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
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Ok thanks <3In post 133, Korina wrote:The bolded numbers are the number of votes a player has. The normal, non-bolded numbers are the number of posts the player has made.Norweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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Okay, but don't you think that he can change his meta very easily then? I believe he's the incarnation of the problem with metareads.In post 134, UnrealSeal wrote:
It's N_M's meta. He plays in a way that makes him very easy to sort.In post 126, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
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Wtf lolIn post 137, UnrealSeal wrote:he's been playing this way for like 4 yearsNorweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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So because I'm not as lethargic as you, I'm scummy? I'm always top poster on my forum, every game (unless I die early of course, but even there lol). And "desperate for town validation"? Elaborate on that please.In post 139, BlackStar wrote:I really don't like the vibe I'm getting from Marsh. He seems way too frantic and desperate for town validation
If you want a link to a game on my forum, http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthrea ... ht=spirits. My newbie game: viewtopic.php?t=76171&start=875.
Does anyone know BlackStar's meta, or have a link to a game he was in to give me?Norweegian:I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.-
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Elaborate on the vote please.
What do you think was the scum motivation of that post?In post 121, AP wrote:VOTE: CJV
So, you voted Unreal because you failed to get his logic. That was fine. Then you "got his point", so you unvoted, which was also fine.
But how the hell do you now vote Lucky for failing to understand Unreal's logic and -instead- taking it the way you yourself had intended it to be??? If you bloody didn't see your own point until someone else pointed it out to you, how can you fault another person for failing to see it too?-
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I’m sticking to my early read on Manat. I’ve read 3 games where he was mafia and lately 1 town one and I think it shouldn't be hard to meta-read him.
Or like, as mafia he struggles with making reads and reacting to stuff a lot. I’m not sure if anything would change if he rolled SK, but I’m gutting him town rn.
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Same with cee, like, I can see him flipping town here. He is normally an easy ML-bait and considering the previous games I’ve played with him, I don’t think his vote switches are that bad. Like, I’ve seen him do worse things as town, I don’t think it makes him scum. I’m kinda freaked out by the amount of stuff he’s written, but I think I’ll reread the game lucky was talking about and change/solidify my read on him after that, cuz my memories of cee’s play from back then are kinda vague.
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Tbh this felt like shade.In post 79, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:In post 61, LuckyOtter wrote:He was scum and I ended up listening to people instead of my gut.
Gut says AP is a good wagon.
VOTE: AP
Did you just entirely sheep my views lol?In post 62, LuckyOtter wrote: Mmmm I dunno, honestly you're probably right D2, but D3 I think I'd be more likely to go crumbhunting. I'm thinking crumbing is better than hypoing in this scenario but I have no experience with hypoing so take that with a grain of salt. I just feel like hypoing might lead to more WIFOM than necessary
And I don’t like this one. The vote feels really itchy considering he seemed to have some thoughts about Lucky and black.In post 81, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
Why are you asking for something "stronger" when we're not even 90 posts into the game? Which kind of case do you expect? VOTE: SandoIn post 72, BlackStar wrote:I'm not convinced in your argument against Sando. If you had something stronger, I'd consider it
It felt like he was either trying to buddy me because of my read on sando or was nervous to push his own scumreads.
Regardless of which of it is it, I don’t really like it.
How do you read otter’s vote on you?In post 83, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:In post 82, LuckyOtter wrote:
Nah just looking for a good wagon. Yours is better. VOTE: Marshmallow MarshallIn post 79, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Did you just entirely sheep my views lol?
This feels either like an “unnecessary power contest” or a stress/defense reaction.In post 85, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthrea ... he-Smith-sIn post 84, ManateeDude wrote:
This just feels like a bad way to back away from their actions.In post 76, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Ignore what I said about him trying to confuse town... I think I'm the one who's confused right now lol
VOTE: MM
Convinced?
Like, this is not a strong argument, but this and the previous post really remind me of his previous scum game Iplayed with him.
Defensive posts and being afraid to OMGUS a townread/strong townie were one one of the main reasons why I scumread him there. Tbh the only thing that he’s doing differently in here is that he doesn’t feel like he’s rushing in for all the easy towncreed.
Like, that posts ^ are either scum-indicative, or NAI for him. I remember him saying post game, that most of the stuff I read him for were NAI, but like, tbh I’m not really thrilled to test it out.
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