Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

Nosferatu · Post Post #3225 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:35 am

how little time i should say

Theta Alpine · Post Post #3226 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:46 am

In post 3217, zMuffinMan wrote:why do people have creature as a town read?

day 1 creature was good
day 2 radiant had the whole fake claim bit which is what i think caused creature to lurk

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VOTE: projectmatt

i could also go with vecna again

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3227 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:04 am

I started with DAy 2 and I'm on page 80 but I need a break. Did the vig never claim? That seems really weird, I guess he could be multi-shot, but still kinda weird with the rest of the games mechancis.

Math and Vecana are both town. I think hebichan is. I still don't like vecna recent posts, but day 2 start was good.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3228 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:05 am

In post 3226, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 3217, zMuffinMan wrote:why do people have creature as a town read?
day 1 creature was good
day 2 radiant had the whole fake claim bit which is what i think caused creature to lurk

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VOTE: projectmatt

i could also go with vecna again

Why do you think it caused creature to lurk and what does that mean?

Vecna · Post Post #3229 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:00 am

In post 3226, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 3217, zMuffinMan wrote:why do people have creature as a town read?
day 1 creature was good
day 2 radiant had the whole fake claim bit which is what i think caused creature to lurk

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VOTE: projectmatt

i could also go with vecna again

See, I dont really think this is something scum would say when theyre at L2, and im on their counterwagon. It'd be pretty suicidal at least, because it really makes me want to get rid of them.

Unless both him and PJM are scum I guess. Then it suddenly would make a lot of sense again for him to feel out a potential wagon on me. Anyways.

Titus · Post Post #3230 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:17 am

Or he just was not watching? Not everyone obsessess over votes like I do.

I still feel we should lynch Oath. Not town = die. I really just don't believe a "not town" claim that has town wincon.

Creature · Post Post #3231 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:55 am

Okay, maybe we should indeed lynch non-town for today

VOTE: Oath

Nosferatu · Post Post #3232 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:11 am

oath seems like a waste of a lynch

even tho i believe his wincon claim i still think that wolves will eventually kill him before LyLo

Titus · Post Post #3233 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:14 am

In post 3232, Nosferatu wrote:oath seems like a waste of a lynch

even tho i believe his wincon claim i still think that wolves will eventually kill him before LyLo

Why? Assuming he's truthtelling in that setup, he'd have to be lynched by us anyway in case he's a third party or traitor on the day before lylo.

Nosferatu · Post Post #3234 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:17 am

because as long as he's not being lynched, its in his interest to role block wolves so he doesn't get nightkilled, which makes it in the interest of wolves to kill him before he successfully blocks a nightkill and finds scum

Titus · Post Post #3235 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:19 am

In post 3234, Nosferatu wrote:because as long as he's not being lynched, its in his interest to role block wolves so he doesn't get nightkilled, which makes it in the interest of wolves to kill him before he successfully blocks a nightkill and finds scum

Again, why would he ever fear a nightkill at all? Smart scum never shoot him for what I described before. Second, I don't recall him claiming roleblocker.

Nosferatu · Post Post #3236 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:29 am

he claimed a drain ability that removes pt and abilities iirc

Nosferatu · Post Post #3237 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:30 am

its unlikely that he his 0 scum until mylo so scum should be inclined to shoot him sooner or later

Nosferatu · Post Post #3238 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:31 am

In post 2993, Oath wrote:Abilities are : Drain- ability to target someone and block all active, passive, and factional abilities for that night except for PT that would be blocked the following night for obvious reasons

Titus · Post Post #3239 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:35 am

Whatever role you give it, it's more likely to scumside and with the PT recruit thing will probably stop that from being pure town. Objectivrly, Oath targets the hood.

Nosferatu · Post Post #3240 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:51 am

targets the hood to do what?

Nosferatu · Post Post #3241 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:52 am

removing one person from the hood in a delayed fashion doesn't seem like optimal play

Titus · Post Post #3242 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:54 am

In post 3240, Nosferatu wrote:targets the hood to do what?

Cancel the member in the PT. Particularly if he's scum. He can remove players scumreading scum thus ensuring scum control of the PT.

Vecna · Post Post #3243 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:11 am

Im pretty sure the way he described his ability is that if he effectively roleblocks someone, he gets a BP use. Scum would actually benefit from shooting him tonight since I kinda believe that he can only win with town. Vampires and Werewolves dont go well together, and I know that without watching twilight. Townsided BP roleblocker? Sounds like a pretty damn good target for a NK if they can prevent him from getting a BP use.

Titus · Post Post #3244 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:12 am

In post 3243, Vecna wrote:Im pretty sure the way he described his ability is that if he effectively roleblocks someone, he gets a BP use. Scum would actually benefit from shooting him tonight since I kinda believe that he can only win with town. Vampires and Werewolves dont go well together, and I know that without watching twilight. Townsided BP roleblocker? Sounds like a pretty damn good target for a NK if they can prevent him from getting a BP use.

Then why would his role pm not just say town. This is a too good to be true scenario. If it's not town, it dies.

Vecna · Post Post #3245 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:15 am

The only thing that irks me....is that he claims theres more of him. Seeing how the human wincondition means at least one human need to survive, and the vampire wincondition states the same for vampires.....it pretty much means that scum can spite-lock a faction out of winning if they somehow have an idea of whom is human and whom is vampire.

Vecna · Post Post #3246 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:18 am

Guess its possible the slot is a fake-claiming SK type of role, where he does have the flavour and the abilities he claimed. That does kind of fit. Give it a kill (explains the TGP kill) and a way to defend itself by getting BP charges by draining people of their energy.

At any rate.....

Vecna · Post Post #3247 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:20 am

Yeah lynching wolves is where its at. I dont care about this one bit, and if it gets BP uses from roleblocking shit, itll still be better for the role to try and aim at scum.

Nosferatu · Post Post #3248 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:22 am

In post 3242, Titus wrote:Cancel the member in the PT. Particularly if he's scum. He can remove players scumreading scum thus ensuring scum control of the PT.

i mean its a role block, they'd come back to the pt

Nosferatu · Post Post #3249 (ISO) » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:24 am

either way i just think its a sub-optimal lynch choice for today

wolves could kill a slot that was on the sidelines and the day would effectively repeat