NY 213 - Game Over!

[JarJarDrinks]

UNVOTE: Actually maybe Rob has a point

yes I do have a point because talk to me scum motivation for fakeclaiming mason partner then retracting before he engages?

So you can make this post?

Honestly I was thinking the same thing but I dislike you pointing it out.

[Golden Robster]

Why does town!GR do this to begin with?

town fake claiming mason to try and protect my mason partner(s)

[PenguinPower]

Yeah, but town!GR doesn't know that he's a mason so I don't know why you would try that.

[Scioness Sajj]

his is a consistent mindset to his past meta
also yeah he might be defending you but I still think he's making a mechanical assumption that's pretty loony

flavor was defending me where? he just said he is town reading me.

[Scioness Sajj]

UNVOTE: i would be willing to lynch in Lalendra/Scion/Rob

what have i done?

[PenguinPower]

Yeah, but town!GR doesn't know that he's a mason so I don't know why you would try that.

And then vote and push his slot. It doesn't add up to me.

[Golden Robster]

So you can make this post?

Honestly I was thinking the same thing but I dislike you pointing it out.

get why you dislike it but am pointing it out because it's a legitimate reason

it might seem scummy coming from me but it's a justified question

[Scioness Sajj]

FL sounded powertown. Then I didn't like how he didn't react to Rob's fake claim, because it seemed to me that if he was really a mason, he would have had a reaction. Then I decided he probably was really a mason because he explained that he was just making that post as he was heading into work and didn't have the chance to react, so I unvoted.

FFS, I really don't understand why people have such a hard time following my reasoning in EVERY GODDAMN GAME

i think the way you are writing would work fine if you were speaking with somebody but doesn't really translates well into writing.

[JarJarDrinks]

UNVOTE: i would be willing to lynch in Lalendra/Scion/Rob

what have i done?

Posted reads... oh wait no you haven't done that at all.

[JarJarDrinks]

Like seriously who do you scumread or townread? YOU HAVE NO READSSSS?!?!?!?!?!??

[Golden Robster]

Yeah, but town!GR doesn't know that he's a mason so I don't know why you would try that.

And then vote and push his slot. It doesn't add up to me.

because zero response to my gambit

[Golden Robster]

Yeah, but town!GR doesn't know that he's a mason so I don't know why you would try that.

not sure what you're trying to ask me here

[Golden Robster]

if you're asking me why I did the gambit in the first place then it's obvious

he was being voted and a wagon was building up when he hardclaimed mason

I claimed mason in order to stop votes but since no response to my gambit I got super paranoid and retracted

[Hopkirk]

@ Scion, yeah you're posting a fraction of the amount of your previous games why? What are your reads right now? In the abscence of another reason, all that springs to mind is that you want to fly under the radar.
Also my flavour thing was that I called him 'Flavour Leaf' while shortening the names of everyone else on any line he was on in my reads list.

We could always lynch Wheme right?

Will try and get into more stuff tomorrow.

How long did you intent to wait Rob?

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #24

Golden Robster (2) - Flavor Leaf (2774), PenguinPower (2775)
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) - Andriod18 (2533)
WhemeStar (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) - Dunnstral (2206)
Andriod18 (1) - Pine (1936)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (0) -
Vaxkiller (1) - Kublai Khan (2423)
Wavemode (1) - TehBrawlGuy (2690)
PenguinPower (4) - EspeciallyTheLies (1996), Myloninja13 (2437), Lalendra (2809), Creature (2835)
Myloninja13 (3) - Vaxkiller (2472), Texcat (2552), Ausuka (2574)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) - WhemeStar (2542)
Not Voting (7) - Frozen Angel, Scioness Sajj, JarJarDrinks (2755), Hopkirk (2782), Golden Robster (2783), Wavemode (2800), Gamma Emerald (2867)

Lynch Threshold

During day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Frozen Angel is V/LA until July 11.
Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies.
Prodded Pine. He has (expired on 2018-07-12 09:49:40) to respond in-thread.
If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Dunnstral: Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206)
Golden Robster: Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) --> WhemeStar (2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) --> Flavor Leaf (2642) --> (Null) (2783)
Pine: Andriod18 (1936)
Creature: Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835)
Kublai Khan: Flavor Leaf (1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423)
WhemeStar: Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) --> Flavor Leaf (2542)
Hopkirk: Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782)
Gamma Emerald: Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867)

Ausuka

: PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) --> Flavor Leaf (2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574)
Lalendra: Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) --> Flavor Leaf (2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809)
EspeciallyTheLies: PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks: Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) --> Flavor Leaf (2327) --> (Null) (2612) --> Flavor Leaf (2640) --> (Null) (2755)
Andriod18: JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat: ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy: (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690)
Vaxkiller: WhemeStar (2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472)
Wavemode: Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) --> Flavor Leaf (2635) --> (Null) (2800)
PenguinPower: Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) --> Flavor Leaf (2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775)
Myloninja13: PenguinPower (2437)
Flavor Leaf: JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

[Scioness Sajj]

JarJar, I know we are in rush but i'm not going to rush through reading.

i have commented on things, pretty sure there was a read or so in there. i will make a readlist when i'm done catching up. i have 4 or so pages to read.

if you want my attention or just something from me, don't do it by engaging on my engagement with other people, thanks

[Golden Robster]

also it didn't help that JJD was saying shit like

@Robster and Flaovrleaf, if either of you claim this was fake at a future point, then you get autolynched.

last chance to come clean.

and then wavemode started pushing me and throwing shade so I figured it wouldn't have worked

my interactions with FL were dodgy as well and didn't help

[Golden Robster]

How long did you intent to wait Rob?

not long

was hoping that he would respond after I posted and make a decision

[JarJarDrinks]

Robsters explanation makes sense

[PenguinPower]

if you're asking me why I did the gambit in the first place then it's obvious

he was being voted and a wagon was building up when he hardclaimed mason

I claimed mason in order to stop votes but since no response to my gambit I got super paranoid and retracted

I don’t see why you felt the need to fake claim to halt the wagon, especially given you didn’t stick to the gambit.

That’s said I cant express scum motivation for it either.

UNVOTE:

I have a gut feeling none of the recent posting about FL stuff is from scum.

[Scioness Sajj]

@ Scion, yeah you're posting a fraction of the amount of your previous games why? What are your reads right now? In the abscence of another reason, all that springs to mind is that you want to fly under the radar.
Also my flavour thing was that I called him 'Flavour Leaf' while shortening the names of everyone else on any line he was on in my reads list.

yeah, i know how it looks but there is nothing ui can do about it. I was on prolonged v/la d1. I didn't expect to be vla at all and since my other site commitments are smaller i paid more attention to them.
a readlist will be made today, just want to be up to date with the thread. you can count me accountable for everything i have said, i do double check when posting now so there is that.

yeah you are right, i need a break from reading i'm starting to skim.

[TehBrawlGuy]

standard timetravelling warning

There is zero chance there isn’t at least 2 scum in
PoV
JJD, Golden Rob, PP, Lalendra, Wave, Wheme, and I will power lynch my way through after the mason claim comes through.

Hint, I will not be going after JJD or Wave.

You're a mason, Wave's on your wagon which you want to lynch from, and Wave's the only non-conf town Neighbor left... and you won't vote him? How is he not obvscum from your PoV?

[Golden Robster]

I don’t see why you felt the need to fake claim to halt the wagon, especially given you didn’t stick to the gambit.

only reason I didn't stick to gambit is pressure from other players and dodgy interactions with FL which didn't make sense from mason pov + zero acknowledgement from FL didn't help

[Scioness Sajj]

oh

just realized it's andriod not android

(i'm writing readlist, don't yell at me)

[Kublai Khan]

presented a choice of "PenguinPower or Golden Robster" and PenguinPower immediately dropped his hard Myloninja13 push and voted Golden Robster. Despite not commenting on him about anything anywhere.

Um. He faked claimed mason and then didn't give a reason when asked why he did it? Didn't really care until mason were actually confirmed.

Yes, action is bad.

So tell me about the scum motivation in the action.

{PenguinPower doesn't answer and time passes until...}

PenguinPower responds to Golden Robster:

I guess this could make sense sense, but fake claiming as town is just bad. I mean, you didn't know that he was mason, so I don't get what you were hoping for if A) occurred; don't get why you voted and pushed when B) did occur; or, what you hoped for if C) occurred.

Why does town!GR do this to begin with?

PenguinPower seems to be backtracking to justify his vote. Insincere scum-hunting.

VOTE: PenguinPower