NY 213 - Game Over!

[Golden Robster]

krazy thinks scum would bus after one of their teammates got lynched

and then wagons texcat with dunstral, one of his scumreads sheeping him

[Krazy]

Yeah, that lines up!

I think you also might be higher than Dunn on my list at this point. So your displeasure is my... pleasure.

[Golden Robster]

like you said it was first impression reads and then you completely ignore them

pretty useful

[Ankamius]

though, lately I've been like "but damn, that player might be just pretty lynchbait"

and like a lot of players rn feel like lynchbait

ooh pick me pick me!

[TehBrawlGuy]

though, lately I've been like "but damn, that player might be just pretty lynchbait"

and like a lot of players rn feel like lynchbait

ooh pick me pick me!

cast a vooooote

[Ankamius]

I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum

[TehBrawlGuy]

I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum

because voting scum is how i win

tbh the best way to see this is to go look at tex iso

the short version though:
she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere

[Golden Robster]

mylo is town

texcat is less sure but so-so at best

[Golden Robster]

don't understand how we're letting these players away with soft defending wheme

and then letting them wagon the most lynchbaity players in the game aka the weak players

[Kublai Khan]

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

[TehBrawlGuy]

don't understand how we're letting these players away with soft defending wheme

and then letting them wagon the most lynchbaity players in the game aka the weak players

is this not what tex did?

[Golden Robster]

she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere

this is literally any lurker

[Golden Robster]

is this not what tex did?

when did she soft defend tex?

also is this question sarcasm because you're asking me for empirical validation about your argument?

[Golden Robster]

wheme*

[TehBrawlGuy]

is this not what tex did?

when did she soft defend wheme?

also is this question sarcasm because you're asking me for empirical validation about your argument?

in referring to potential CFDs off wheme:

What about Mylo?

also here:

The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.

Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.

Have you looked at Mylo's ISO? Have you looked at ArcAngel's ISO (though it has improved somewhat with BrawlGuy's replace in)?

After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.

I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.

I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.

Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.

it's a legitimate question, imo she soft defended wheme and has been voting lynchbait players for most of the game

[Ankamius]

I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum

because voting scum is how i win

tbh the best way to see this is to go look at tex iso

the short version though:
she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere

I skimmed texcat's ISO and I don't understand this case at all.

[TehBrawlGuy]

I don't have any scumreads currently

why is your vote on scum

because voting scum is how i win

tbh the best way to see this is to go look at tex iso

the short version though:
she casts a lot of naked votes, shadecasts others for casting naked votes
of the votes she casts and directions she pushes, it's usually on the softest targets - today she expressed suspicion on wave/rob, but did nothing with it and then just sheeped mylowagon
most of her contribution is null points, townreads, etc that don't stick her neck out - there's actually very little town-motivated pushing anywhere

I skimmed texcat's ISO and I don't understand this case at all.

do you want to not skim it
or ask anything that i can clarify
or suggest other options

[Ankamius]

is this not what tex did?

when did she soft defend wheme?

also is this question sarcasm because you're asking me for empirical validation about your argument?

in referring to potential CFDs off wheme:

What about Mylo?

also here:

The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.

Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.

Have you looked at Mylo's ISO? Have you looked at ArcAngel's ISO (though it has improved somewhat with BrawlGuy's replace in)?

After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.

I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.

I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.

Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.

it's a legitimate question, imo she soft defended wheme and has been voting lynchbait players for most of the game

what makes 3032 and 3098 scummy though

this looks like the type of thing I'd post as town when I'm getting a really bad feeling about how the day is going

[Ankamius]

idk

something's really wrong about this game

[TehBrawlGuy]

the fact that wheme flipped scum?

i'll give you that they make sense from worried town, but the posts also vibe from the perspective of a scummate who thinks wheme is potentially savable

[Golden Robster]

this was supposed to be the focal point of today

Remember who is stalling back and forth.

yeah this needs to be the precedent for d3.

instead we got this

via Imgflip Meme Generator

[Ankamius]

Day 2 VC #37 (LYNCH)

Golden Robster (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) - Andriod18 (2533)

WhemeStar (12) (HAMMER @ 3453) - Flavor Leaf (2958), PenguinPower (2962), Wavemode (

2966

3115), Hopkirk (3008), Kublai Khan (3027), JarJarDrinks (3030), Lalendra (3097), TehBrawlGuy (3233), Golden Robster (3286), Ausuka (3293), Gamma Emerald (3318), Creature (3453)*

Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (0) -
Andriod18 (1) - Pine (1936)
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (1) - Dunnstral (3248)
Vaxkiller (0) -
Wavemode (0) -

PenguinPower (5) - EspeciallyTheLies (1996), Myloninja13 (2437), WhemeStar (2930), Scioness Sajj (3255), Vaxkiller (3290)

Myloninja13 (1) - Texcat (2552)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (0) -
Not Voting (1) - Frozen Angel

Lynch Threshold

During day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:15 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:15:00).

Moderator Notes

WhemeStar is V/LA on July 14.
Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies (who requested it) and Andriod18 (who failed to pick up their prod).
Prodded Pine. They have (expired on 2018-07-14 15:25:53) to respond in-thread

with game-relevant content

.

Unless I find a replacement before the end of the day, there are no plans to extend the day's deadline.

If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral (4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) --> PenguinPower (3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) --> PenguinPower (2112) --> Scioness Sajj (2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) --> WhemeStar (2304) --> Wavemode (2367) --> Scioness Sajj (2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) --> Flavor Leaf (2642) --> (Null) (2783) --> PenguinPower (2979) --> WhemeStar (3099) --> (Null) (3284) --> WhemeStar (3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) --> PenguinPower (2835) --> WhemeStar (3453*)
Kublai Khan (5): Flavor Leaf (1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) --> PenguinPower (2899) --> WhemeStar (3027)
WhemeStar (4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) --> Flavor Leaf (2542) --> PenguinPower (2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) --> WhemeStar (3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) --> PenguinPower (2990) --> WhemeStar (3318)

Ausuka

(7): PenguinPower (1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) --> Flavor Leaf (2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) --> WhemeStar (3293)
Lalendra (7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) --> Flavor Leaf (2657) --> (Null) (2705) --> PenguinPower (2809) --> WhemeStar (3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1): PenguinPower (1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) --> Flavor Leaf (2327) --> (Null) (2612) --> Flavor Leaf (2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) --> WhemeStar (3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)
Texcat (2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1): Texcat (2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) --> WhemeStar (3062) --> (Null) (3118) --> WhemeStar (3165) --> (Null) (3196) --> WhemeStar (3233)
Vaxkiller (5): WhemeStar (2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) --> PenguinPower (3012) --> WhemeStar (3112) --> PenguinPower (3290)
Wavemode (6): Texcat (2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) --> Flavor Leaf (2635) --> (Null) (2800) --> WhemeStar (2966) ==> WhemeStar (3115)
PenguinPower (7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) --> Flavor Leaf (2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) --> WhemeStar (2962)
Myloninja13 (1): PenguinPower (2437)
Scioness Sajj (3): Andriod18 (2904) --> WhemeStar (3034) --> PenguinPower (3255)
Flavor Leaf (5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) --> PenguinPower (2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) --> WhemeStar (2958)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5):

Osuka

(77) --> Texcat (1388) --> Lalendra (1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) --> TheRampage (909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) --> TheRampage (813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)
WhemeStar (3): Lalendra (234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) --> Flavor Leaf (955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) --> Lalendra (279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2): Texcat (84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) --> Lalendra (1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)
Lalendra (3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) --> TheRampage (771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)
Texcat (4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4): Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) --> TheRampage (1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5): Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)
TheRampage (3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)
PenguinPower (1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)
Scioness Sajj (4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)
Flavor Leaf (1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

No, that doesn't make sense with this, TBG.

I think Whemestar was heavily bussed from what I'm seeing so far, and Texcat being on a Mylo wagon for 1000 pages before the hammer doesn't fit that theory at all.

[Ankamius]

Somewhat related question: What has Frozen Angel's activity looked like throughout the game?

[Krazy]

I mean I was with you on the Dunn wagon and mostly all you've done is complain about other people's wagons rather than pushing it. Why is Dunn better than tex, Rob?

[Golden Robster]

Somewhat related question: What has Frozen Angel's activity looked like throughout the game?

absent from a good portion of d2 and d2 lynch

she was fine when she replaced