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[MathBlade]

I gotta drive home but let’s not go down the rabbit hole of paranoia.

[Sando]

So who exactly is Titus supposed to conspire with?

You for one...

This isn't conspiracy, I'm not using this to say either of you are scum, or suggesting we go down any rabbit hole. I'm just pointing out that you and Titus aren't necessarily cleared of negation as a power. Oh the humanity, I know.

[MathBlade]

So who exactly is Titus supposed to conspire with?

You for one...

This isn't conspiracy, I'm not using this to say either of you are scum, or suggesting we go down any rabbit hole. I'm just pointing out that you and Titus aren't necessarily cleared of negation as a power. Oh the humanity, I know.

*le sigh*

I am pretty sure Titus/Sando/stun isn’t a thing but my gut is screaming it is

[MathBlade]

it’s so annoying how these random quotes keep showing up when i go to preview a post, and it’s also hard to edit those posts out in safari. does anyone know how to fix this so these quotes don’t show up if i go back to previous pages between trying to make points?

Let us say you would actually have concerns about why ank died over me. Let me spin this chessboard around.

why would anyone have such concerns? cause they thought I was a more towny/valuable player than ank and that I could die. So as a person with a real concern you start the day saying why fa is alive over ank. Lets say you're also lazy to investigate that question that you had. you don't check the mechanics cause you're lazy. you don't check ank reads cause your lazy. and you come in saying I have mix feelings about fa cause she is alive. later when fa points out you act with stubbornness and throw those reasons/important things in trashcan and say if you're obvtown just become one instead of taking a stance.

It's either that or you not giving a fuck about why ank died over me and you wanting to mention it just so you look in a way that you're hunting.

I actually HAVE been floating that question in my mind.

I have been checking mechanics but they are just that mechanics. I am investigating that question just by listening. It is troublesome but that may be wine scum are throwing to manipulate me.

I am also wondering why I am so townread. It has me nervous that the only person scumreading me is 404 and 404’s reasoning/logic if you can call it that is just bad.

oh one last thing before i go back to lurking: has stungun done anything town?

i loled at this for a number of reasons...

shit, i just voted ankamius for leader and now she’s dead. :-/

she was the only iso i had gotten too fwiw as well, other than my own role and bbmolla. i was 100% on her being town because of brassherald’s 275 + her completely unnecessary change from the 123456789 wagon to titus wagon (i think off memory) at the end of d1 in the instance she was scum.

Not that I can think of.

It’s just a lot of words far as I can tell. Looks like questions for questions sake.

I am wondering what leads he finds worth pursuing.

they were all intended to a). gather more information regarding where people stand by seeing them commit to harder stances and b). to see if i could use them to further PoE my way to the scumpool by eliminating town from my focal point.

I feel bad bc like I feel like Sando's actual reads on other players should be more advanced by now considering he seems like he's really really into this game but by the same token I don't really know where else to vote so I'm kinda still voting Sando because my head is stuck in a plastic bag.

This feels icky. It’s like he is trying to excuse a Sando vote.

Again what are the Sando arguments?

what are your thoughts on the worst? i personally could see him being scum, and especially if you are not.

I don’t see you doing that though. It looks really random with no common thread and you aren’t following up on what you’re given. Sure you’re hounding for an answer but I don’t see you doing anything with it.

I could see him being scum but mainly I am trying to narrow my focus
When I call the team and am wrong it is difficult to reset my reads.
I would compromise there.

[MathBlade]

So overall nullscum

[stungun0404]

I don’t see you doing that though. It looks really random with no common thread and you aren’t following up on what you’re given. Sure you’re hounding for an answer but I don’t see you doing anything with it.

I could see him being scum but mainly I am trying to narrow my focus
When I call the team and am wrong it is difficult to reset my reads.
I would compromise there.

every single question has a common thread of making people take definite stances, take a look at them and you can determine that with relative ease.

and, i’ve actually followed up on several and indeed most of the questions i’ve asked that have been answered and used them as information to build stances on players



proof: asked questions to all in 4820

in 5090 i followed up and drew some conclusions from the answers given from the worst, shiro, sando, sakura hana, nosferatu and titus.

in 5094 i redirected attention to unanswered questions

followed up on gamma emerald in 5123. that’s 7/18 follow ups there.

in 5129 i followed up on your answer, mathblade.

in 5133, i followed up on creature’s answer. that’s now half the players: 9/18



most of the remaining players have not answered my questions, and i hadn’t gotten responding to the others, but in 5168 i made sure to redirect zmuffinman’s attention to the question i asked him. and also i did the same to kokichi.

so you can’t say i haven’t followed up and drawn conclusions from my questions.

and i’ve used the strength of the answers to sort people. i was impressed by sakura hana’s answer, and that was enough for me to townlean with her. i was impressed by sando’s answer, which upheld my townread of him.

[the worst]

prolly gonna not read last 10 pages
Who'd like to fill me in?

[Sando]

prolly gonna not read last 10 pages
Who'd like to fill me in?

You have daychat, ask there.

[the worst]

interesting.

[Sando]

I don’t see you doing that though. It looks really random with no common thread and you aren’t following up on what you’re given. Sure you’re hounding for an answer but I don’t see you doing anything with it.

This is fairly egregious in just how wrong it is.

[Toranaga]

hey there

who we lynching

what's the case on sando

[the worst]

he's picking on me

[Nancy Drew 39]

Shiro voted Katsuki based on Cerb’s read but now I’m not sure if he wanted Sando instead? @Shiro, please clarify this. Thanks.

Sounded like Cerb wants me dead for associatives.

Please explain.

[Nancy Drew 39]

for clarity

what is that list Titus

You Me Ank Nancy Drixx Math Shiro

Well, we can verify that I gave everyone but Drixx a power in my pool. A slot with medium targets Ank. Sorry Drixx. Someone had to be removed and you had the largest wagon, plus none of the abilities were hoods where I could talk to you.

@Drixx, I'm not a characture and the notation you had one of the largest wagons at EoD was noted.

Ank is dead Town
Drixx didn’t get a power
Shiro used Medium
Nancy I believe if memory serves talked about her powers some

So who exactly is Titus supposed to conspire with?

Second of all fake claiming is stupid if you’re scum. Like I don’t know if a “powers cop” is gonna come up. I mean if scum wanna be stupid let them. As for me I have Precog 100%

If anyone has a lie detector come up they can check if

Drixx? FA wasn’t on that list?

[Nancy Drew 39]

So who exactly is Titus supposed to conspire with?

You for one...

This isn't conspiracy, I'm not using this to say either of you are scum, or suggesting we go down any rabbit hole. I'm just pointing out that you and Titus aren't necessarily cleared of negation as a power. Oh the humanity, I know.

*le sigh*

I am pretty sure Titus/Sando/stun isn’t a thing but my gut is screaming it is

How?

[Sando]

Shiro voted Katsuki based on Cerb’s read but now I’m not sure if he wanted Sando instead? @Shiro, please clarify this. Thanks.

Sounded like Cerb wants me dead for associatives.

Please explain.

Cause of this:

He was reading it as it happened screaming that we should have lynched sando because that at least owuld have been useful to anylise in retrospect.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Shiro voted Katsuki based on Cerb’s read but now I’m not sure if he wanted Sando instead? @Shiro, please clarify this. Thanks.

Sounded like Cerb wants me dead for associatives.

Please explain.

Cause of this:

He was reading it as it happened screaming that we should have lynched sando because that at least owuld have been useful to anylise in retrospect.

@Shiro, who does Cerb think Sando’s aligned with? I think he suspects Muffin and Katsuki. Is that right?

[Sando]

@Shiro, who does Cerb think Sando’s aligned with? I think he suspects Muffin and Katsuki. Is that right?

Why do you assume I'm going to flip scum? Why do you assume Cerb only has opinions on me flipping scum? I've already articulated why my town flip says duckling is scum and stungun is town, surely you've at least considered it?

[stungun0404]

@nancydrew, how would you feel about voting titus here? for it or against it?

[stungun0404]

hey there

who we lynching

what's the case on sando

personally, i think titus would be a good lynch here.

sando is town if you ask me, and i think you should at least lean that way as well. you can see the evolution of my townread there and support for it from posts 4487, 4707, 5070, 5090, 5210, 5217, 5220 and 5305

i would heavily recommend for you not to vote there.

[stungun0404]

you guys notice that titus is on the sando wagon, and that sando is on the worst wagon? which one looks more like scum just trying to survive? correct answer: titus!

[MathBlade]

I don’t see you doing that though. It looks really random with no common thread and you aren’t following up on what you’re given. Sure you’re hounding for an answer but I don’t see you doing anything with it.

I could see him being scum but mainly I am trying to narrow my focus
When I call the team and am wrong it is difficult to reset my reads.
I would compromise there.

every single question has a common thread of making people take definite stances, take a look at them and you can determine that with relative ease.

and, i’ve actually followed up on several and indeed most of the questions i’ve asked that have been answered and used them as information to build stances on players



proof: asked questions to all in 4820

in 5090 i followed up and drew some conclusions from the answers given from the worst, shiro, sando, sakura hana, nosferatu and titus.

in 5094 i redirected attention to unanswered questions

followed up on gamma emerald in 5123. that’s 7/18 follow ups there.

in 5129 i followed up on your answer, mathblade.

in 5133, i followed up on creature’s answer. that’s now half the players: 9/18



most of the remaining players have not answered my questions, and i hadn’t gotten responding to the others, but in 5168 i made sure to redirect zmuffinman’s attention to the question i asked him. and also i did the same to kokichi.

so you can’t say i haven’t followed up and drawn conclusions from my questions.

and i’ve used the strength of the answers to sort people. i was impressed by sakura hana’s answer, and that was enough for me to townlean with her. i was impressed by sando’s answer, which upheld my townread of him.

That isn’t what I mean.

You are saying

words

But you aren’t drawing conclusions from that.

You are quoting the posts and saying words after yes but there doesn’t seem to be a rhyme or reasoning to the posting. It’s like you’re counting ANY response versus a response that makes sense and coalesces into a whole

It’s why I hate gunfire questions people can look Townie versus be townie
Town doesn’t measure whether they have interacted with everyone they just play

Scum have to fake it. And you don’t feel genuine

[MathBlade]

I don’t see you doing that though. It looks really random with no common thread and you aren’t following up on what you’re given. Sure you’re hounding for an answer but I don’t see you doing anything with it.

This is fairly egregious in just how wrong it is.

I can go through the list
Ask everyone a question
Spam til I get everyone to answer it
There is no stream of consciousness there

[MathBlade]

for clarity

what is that list Titus

You Me Ank Nancy Drixx Math Shiro

Well, we can verify that I gave everyone but Drixx a power in my pool. A slot with medium targets Ank. Sorry Drixx. Someone had to be removed and you had the largest wagon, plus none of the abilities were hoods where I could talk to you.

@Drixx, I'm not a characture and the notation you had one of the largest wagons at EoD was noted.

Ank is dead Town
Drixx didn’t get a power
Shiro used Medium
Nancy I believe if memory serves talked about her powers some

So who exactly is Titus supposed to conspire with?

Second of all fake claiming is stupid if you’re scum. Like I don’t know if a “powers cop” is gonna come up. I mean if scum wanna be stupid let them. As for me I have Precog 100%

If anyone has a lie detector come up they can check if

Drixx? FA wasn’t on that list?

Drixx was removed per Titus
And FA was on the list I think she said what she did with it.

I forget and I don’t see a Titus FA world

[MathBlade]

So who exactly is Titus supposed to conspire with?

You for one...

This isn't conspiracy, I'm not using this to say either of you are scum, or suggesting we go down any rabbit hole. I'm just pointing out that you and Titus aren't necessarily cleared of negation as a power. Oh the humanity, I know.

*le sigh*

I am pretty sure Titus/Sando/stun isn’t a thing but my gut is screaming it is

How?

Because then scum would be literally imploding so in this case town would stomp