Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Toogeloo]

you guys notice that titus is on the sando wagon, and that sando is on the worst wagon? which one looks more like scum just trying to survive? correct answer: titus!

Did you notice that Titus was voting Sando before there even was a real counter wagon, and that Sando voted Titus as well? Like, first two wagons of the day were just counter wagons to each other.

Titus isn't voting to survive, stop painting Picasso's.

[stungun0404]

That isn’t what I mean.

You are saying

words

But you aren’t drawing conclusions from that.

You are quoting the posts and saying words after yes but there doesn’t seem to be a rhyme or reasoning to the posting. It’s like you’re counting ANY response versus a response that makes sense and coalesces into a whole

It’s why I hate gunfire questions people can look Townie versus be townie
Town doesn’t measure whether they have interacted with everyone they just play

Scum have to fake it. And you don’t feel genuine

again, this is wrong and provable.

conclusions i’ve drawn: in 5090, a temporary out of scumpool reassessment of the worst. voiced a townlean on sakura for her answer when i had not previously had any even slight town indication on her voiced. indicated that i did not like the answer titus gave, so no need for me to reassess her imo.

5123 and expounded upon in 5333, that gamma emerald’s answer allowed me to reassess him from potential scum pool as i had voiced in another earlier post i’m not gonna track down at this moment, and helped me instead to voice a very slight townlean on gamma.

scum are invested in hunting certain types of answers and exploiting them potentially so they can justify scumreads. have you seen any of that from me?

plus, i still have intentions of finding anybody that had been dodging my questions but who has clearly been reading the thread to be scummier (because there should be no protown intent to doing so when i’ve restated them 3 times), but just haven’t gotten around to that because i’ve been focused on other stuff, and it’s literally been like 2 days since i asked them all, lmao. i’d prefer to have time working in my favor when i’m looking for alignment-indicative answers/lack thereof out of these questions.

[stungun0404]

so, 4 out of 9 of the questions i’ve directly addressed responses too have helped me with my reads

[stungun0404]

you guys notice that titus is on the sando wagon, and that sando is on the worst wagon? which one looks more like scum just trying to survive? correct answer: titus!

Did you notice that Titus was voting Sando before there even was a real counter wagon, and that Sando voted Titus as well? Like, first two wagons of the day were just counter wagons to each other.

Titus isn't voting to survive, stop painting Picasso's.

this is assuming unconditionally she isn’t scum. tell me, you can’t truly think this is the case, right?

[stungun0404]

last page of titus’s iso in particular; stances regarding sando and other posts

VOTE: Sando

Not really a chance of getting hebi. I think all the current choices suck but this one is least bad.

weak reasoning last day phase to vote sando.

Nah ... Cerb would just give the wrong answers if he was in convo with Shiro and wanted us to rope Shiro.

Fair.

Why can't we deal with this midday as suggested?

Sando, what do you think of the EoD wagon on you yesterday?

asks this question, but doesn’t follow up on it, at least from what i’ve seen. idk what the intention of this question is, tbch.

I think we should stop talking mechanics and start talking reads. I think town is chasing ourselves here. If you think someone is scum, go to their play. If your case isn't about play and has a single hole in it, I am putting it on mute. I think the entire mechanics spec is designed to have us chasing each other and turning against each other.

hmm, i have to admit i like this post, although i could see scum faking it.

123456789 (4): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus
zMuffinMan (4): BBmolla, Katsuki, Frozen Angel, Nancy Drew 39

Human Sequencer ZzMuffin Up Nancy Down

123456789 (6): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus, Katsuki, Nosferatu

Titus (3): 123456789, Gamma Emerald, Ankamius

Shiro (2): Toranaga, the worst
zMuffinMan (2): BBmolla, Nancy Drew 39

Katsuki and Nos review for bussing

123456789 (7): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus, Katsuki, Nosferatu, Ankamius

Titus (5): 123456789, Gamma Emerald, Sando, Frozen Angel, hebichan

Shiro (2): Toranaga, the worst
zMuffinMan (2): BBmolla, Nancy Drew 39

Hebi down, Ank closes bus window or starts race

123456789 (8): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus, Katsuki, Nosferatu, Nancy Drew 39, the worst

Titus (6): 123456789, Gamma Emerald, Sando, Frozen Angel, hebichan, Ankamius


Bus race not likely when Ank swaps wagons closer to EoD,

Sando possible bus

uses vca to uphold weak scumread/earlier vote of sando, albeit still with very little support. doesn’t explain *why this is a possible bus —> which would be pivotal towards upholding such a stance.

Spoiler: notes

123456789 (4): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus
zMuffinMan (4): BBmolla, Katsuki, Frozen Angel, Nancy Drew 39

Human Sequencer ZzMuffin Up Nancy Down

123456789 (6): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus, Katsuki, Nosferatu

Titus (3): 123456789, Gamma Emerald, Ankamius

Shiro (2): Toranaga, the worst
zMuffinMan (2): BBmolla, Nancy Drew 39

Katsuki and Nos review for bussing

123456789 (7): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus, Katsuki, Nosferatu, Ankamius

Titus (5): 123456789, Gamma Emerald, Sando, Frozen Angel, hebichan

Shiro (2): Toranaga, the worst
zMuffinMan (2): BBmolla, Nancy Drew 39

Hebi down, Ank closes bus window or starts race

123456789 (8): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, Human Sequencer, Titus, Katsuki, Nosferatu, Nancy Drew 39, the worst

Titus (6): 123456789, Gamma Emerald, Sando, Frozen Angel, hebichan, Ankamius


Bus race not likely when Ank swaps wagons closer to EoD, Sando possible bus

Drixx (3): Sakura Hana, hebichan, zMuffinMan
Sando (3): Nosferatu, Drixx, Gamma Emerald



zMuffinMan (4): Sando, the worst, BBmolla, MathBlade

Sando (3): Nosferatu, Drixx, Gamma Emerald

Shiro (2): Sakura Hana, hebichan

zMuffinMan (3): Sando, the worst, BBmolla


Drixx (3): Sakura Hana, Sando, Katsuki
Sando (3): Nosferatu, Drixx, Gamma Emerald
zMuffinMan (3): the worst, BBmolla, MathBlade


Myloninja13 (3): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, the worst
Sando (3): Nosferatu, Drixx, Gamma Emerald

Drixx (2): Sando, Katsuki
zMuffinMan (2): BBmolla, MathBlade

Myloninja13 (5): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, the worst, Creature, hebichan

Sando (3): Nosferatu, Drixx, Gamma Emerald

Drixx (2): Sando, Katsuki
zMuffinMan (2): BBmolla, MathBlade


Myloninja13 (9): zMuffinMan, Sakura Hana, the worst, hebichan, Kokichi Oma, Shiro, Toranaga, Nancy Drew 39, Creature

Sando (5): Nosferatu, Gamma Emerald, Frozen Angel, Titus, Ankamius

zMuffinMan (3): BBmolla, MathBlade, Drixx


Looking at the Sando wagon, it is nearly universally town. Zmuffin in it's iterations is largely unknown. Drixx is a lightning rod with all sorts of players voting him. Reads more like people wouldn't mind lynching him than players viewing him as scum.

VOTE: Sando

Sakura and zmuffin are likely town due to their early votes on Numbers. Don't vote them until lylo plus 2 unless they get toxic. Yet zmuffin recurrs as a wagon. It's almost like town lets scum wagon the smart people.

My focus today would be on Sando, the worst, bb slit and Math. Lynching a lurker over Sando gives more red flags for Sando.

Don't lynch Sakura, zmuffin

Toranga Nancy Creature should have scum if Sando is scum

votes sando completely off of vca. there’s nothing else i’ve found where titus has found her scummy. there should be more support than that, but there isn’t, and that concerns me greatly.

[stungun0404]

to expand upon the post i like, it is intending to help town, and thus has the impression of being pro-town. she mentioned my thoughts regarding that before i did.

however, i don’t like how she’s never really explained “why” sando is scum based off the vca/whatever other analysis she’s given.

[Sando]

uses vca to uphold weak scumread/earlier vote of sando, albeit still with very little support. doesn’t explain *why this is a possible bus —> which would be pivotal towards upholding such a stance.

I wanna know why Titus seems to be saying that me voting Titus is a possible bus...

[Sakura Hana]

uses vca to uphold weak scumread/earlier vote of sando, albeit still with very little support. doesn’t explain *why this is a possible bus —> which would be pivotal towards upholding such a stance.

I wanna know why Titus seems to be saying that me voting Titus is a possible bus...

LMAO super fail xD
I didnt even realize that.

[Sakura Hana]

Okay, screw this.
It seems like Titus didnt do VCA, came with a result in mind before checking the votes and used that.
I still dunno why Titus would do what she did as scum.

But this is literally something else.
Consider my TR on Titus gone.

[the worst]

I wanna float the idea of just lynching Titus so we don't shit up the thread with another hundred pages talking about how everyone wants to lynch Titus?

[Sakura Hana]

<- Insert Vote on Titus here, except idk how many votes she has so i dont wanna vote yet ->

[stungun0404]

<- Insert Vote on Titus here, except idk how many votes she has so i dont wanna vote yet ->

4 at present. 10 needed to lynch.

and i can explain the lack of conclusions, it can come from being demotivated if she’s scum to truly search for something serious. i’ve done that same thing as scum with vca’s. her lack of extensive conclusions on a variety players is likely scum-indicative; the more i think of it the less i see a plausible town motive for it

[Sakura Hana]

Eh ok
VOTE: Titus

[the worst]

VOTE: Titus

[stungun0404]

guys, i think i’ve found scum!

Ok, I am never lynching Sando D1. His avatar is too precious.

Sando - Weak town
BBmolla - Null, weak lean scum
NicoRobin - Lean scum
randomidget - Who? Null problem
Kokichi Oma - Same
Nancy Drew 39 - Town with reservations
hebichan - Town lean
zMuffinMan - Town by wagons, weak town by play
Human Sequencer - Town
Katsuki - Weak town
Sakura Hana - Biggest TR
Toranaga - Conflicted should get a read but I need him to do something other than fight me
Frozen Angel - Townish but maybe captured dunno
123456789 - Eat rope
Shiro - Scum, No cookies
Gamma Emerald - Who
Ankamius brassherald - Town annoying but town
Nosferatu Chickadee - Town
Cerberus v666 - Conflicted by play, leader vote says townish maybe
Myloninja13 - Who
the worst - Needs more
Titus - That Asshole talks behind my back
Drixx - I wanna work on Worm

literally all the mentions that titus made before her first vote of sando on the second page of her iso.

thought he was weak town; what went down in between with her reasoning to justify her later vote for him last day phase?

[stungun0404]

to be clear, the above 2 quotes are from her first 200 posts on the first page of her iso

so she’s made very little mention of sando overall to truly justify scumreading him

[the worst]

is reads changing scum indicative? ah fuck

pedit: I maintain the above snarky sentence but also think Stungun is maybe town here

[the worst]

wait do I?

[Sakura Hana]

Well yes, a Titus scum flip would be indicative of a town Stun.

[Sakura Hana]

5564 is pretty weak tho, compared to what she did in the VCA.

[MathBlade]

5564 is pretty weak tho, compared to what she did in the VCA.

She did a VCA?

Last I saw she just said a few people were town

My computer program imho did more of a vca than she did.

[stungun0404]

@tw: no, but it’s the context surrounding them that can possibly make it scummy.

for instance, investigating last day phase titus voted sando just as the myloninja wagon was at around L-1. she didn’t state thinking sando was scummy or anything, just that the hebi wagon “was not happening.”

upholds it apparently in 3589 that she’d rather lynch a slot tunneled on drixx than a coin flip. i don’t know why you would ever favor drixx that much if you are town that you’d favor lynching someone on them over someone you have no idea what their alignment is and have no way of sorting. last ditch effort for scum to keep myloninja in the game? i think so.
and this reads as though she knew myloninja would flip town.

[MathBlade]

uses vca to uphold weak scumread/earlier vote of sando, albeit still with very little support. doesn’t explain *why this is a possible bus —> which would be pivotal towards upholding such a stance.

I wanna know why Titus seems to be saying that me voting Titus is a possible bus...

LMAO super fail xD
I didnt even realize that.

LMAO

Yeah I think that’s pretty bad

[MathBlade]

to expand upon the post i like, it is intending to help town, and thus has the impression of being pro-town. she mentioned my thoughts regarding that before i did.

however, i don’t like how she’s never really explained “why” sando is scum based off the vca/whatever other analysis she’s given.

This in a nutshell is being townie versus being town I alluded to earlier.

And in regards to the questions stuff I will give it another look overnight.

I gotta either be missing something or doing a poor job of explaining.

[the worst]

could you give me a 200 words or less version math? I'm really slow today