Mini 2020: Destiny III: Cosmic Mafia [終わり]

[AnonymousGhost]

The only evidence we have for multiball is threefold--- Fey's word, and his purple flip rather than red, as well as Maria saying she was shot twice. We have one kill each night, (two shots on Maria possibly N1, missing shot N2 if multiball) and so the evidence for multiball is
circumstantial, but can't be ignored.

Deconstructing this:

- Fey's word.

Uh..

why are we trusting someone who flipped something

other than town

???? his intention - especially post flip - was to deceive the town. if that message came from a confirmed townie, then i'd say that the multi-ball claim would have more weight.

- Purple versus red.

SK's are normally color coded as purple when the flip. We shouldn't automatically assume that purple = a second scum team.

- Maria's flip.

Debatable and circumstantial like you said with the missing N2 NK if it is multi-ball. What's the point of a scum team holstering their shot though? it just prolongs the game and leaves people alive to reevaluate their reads, giving them a chance to lynch scum.

[Nachomamma8]

So you're stuck somewhere between 1 and 2?

if that's a polite way of saying "so you're still trying to figure out how to play the game?", then yes. yes i am.

[AnonymousGhost]

masons are self resolving--- in a way that's more obvious on day 3 than on day 1.

@Nacho - You're good at explaining stuff. Please explain this statement to my brain.

[camntsuki]

ug.

If you just accept a masonclaim as conftown. . . .

they both get nightkilled

... or maybe one lives till endgame as conf.
If you fool around with 'maybe they are scummy omg'.. then they stay alive and people get paranoid and then one of them gets lynched.

That is one less lynch for scum.. and one or two more nightkills a non-mason.


In other news...

ive also come to conclusion that i shouldn't assume this is multi-ball until proven otherwise.

I tend to agree with this.

[AnonymousGhost]

That is one less lynch for scum.. and one or two more nightkills a non-mason.

I think I get it.

depending on the majority's opinion the mason claim, scum will act accordingly in order to promote their win con by allowing town paranoia to go on.

[AnonymousGhost]

Spoiler: Ghost does math

Countdown to LyLo with Multiball (7v2v1):

D3 Lynch = 9 P
N3 = 7 P
D4 = 4v2v1 (LyLo)

Countdown to LyLo in Singleball (8v2) [assumes scum team started with a 3 man team]

D3 Lynch = 9 P
N3 = 8 P
D4 = 7 P
N4 = 6 P
D5 = 5 P [3 v 2] (LyLo)

Ghost does more math

Singleball + SK Theory + Mermaid Vig Shot Theory

D3 Start = 10 P
D3 End = 9 P (assumes someone is lynched)
N3 = -2 P (assumes Mermaid Kuribo is a Vig shot + mafi's NK + both shots are successful)
D4 Start = 7 P = LYLO (4 town v 3 mafi)

Singleball + SK Theory

D3 Start = 10 P
D3 End = 9 P (assumes someone is lynched)
N3 = -1 P (Mermaid is not vig shot like we assume, but mafi's NK is successful)
D4 Start = 8 P (5 town v 3 mafi) (MyLo)

[AnonymousGhost]

How confident is everyone about the Mermaid Warrior = Vig?

Here's the flavor for the Leo King:

Whomever is elected will have the power to eliminate a single player.

Pretty clear what it does, right?

Now take a look at the flavor for Mermaid Warrior:

nominate a player to be a nighttime warrior for Harmony. They will recieve a bonus ability to use tonight.

I no longer think Mermaid = Vig.

[Fate]

Does that mean no mermaid costume? T_T

[kuribo]

masons are self resolving--- in a way that's more obvious on day 3 than on day 1.

@Nacho - You're good at explaining stuff. Please explain this statement to my brain.

Masons alive on day 1- just a claim

Masons alive on day 3- eyebrows raising

Masons alive at endgame- holy shit dude are you even masons

The problem is that we have enough claims floating around that scum don't need to kill confirmed Town, because until one of them dies, neither is confirmed. Does that make sense?

[kuribo]

Does that mean no mermaid costume? T_T

It's hard to find a seashell bra for a guy my size

[kuribo]

SK seems OP in a mini

I've seen it before but it's a pain in the ass

[Fate]

Retrograde is God's way of telling everyone to slow the fuck down.

Vote Count:

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (2): Dunnstral, thepixiecollective
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (1): Nachomamma8
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (1): AnonymousGhost
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (5) Kuribo, camntsuki, Staeg, LadyLambdaDelta, thepixiecollective
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (2) Nosferatu, zMuffinzMan
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Not Voting:

With 10 alive it takes 6 to obliterate someone

Mermaid Warrior Vote Count:

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (0)
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (2) thepixiecollective, Dunnstral
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (0)
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (5) zMuffunzMan, AnonymousGhost, camntsuki, LLD, Kuribo
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Most votes by nighttime will be nominated.

*updates as of bottom of page*

[kuribo]

@Fate: I voted myself mermaid as well:

So let's pretend you survive this, you're Town, and I invite you to a PT tonight. Let's also pretend I get named mermaid

mermaid vote: kuribo

Who would you spend tonight suggesting I shoot?

I'm secretly hoping the mermaid ability is the ability for me to die

[camntsuki]

why aren't we lynching Nosferatu again?

[thepixiecollective]

I don't give a flying fuck if you think my posts read as disingenuous or not cupcake. I want to lynch because I am looking at the gamestate some1 has to be scum and I am always up for pl-ing you cos I think you are a terrible player and your bad read on us kind proves it to be true. You are doing the same thing you always do shock is to hide behind kuribo and fun and fracture town. You do this as both alignments.

I am getting annoyed cos going after me is a waste of time, if you read my posts then you wld be able to see the town motivation behind them. You want me to NOT consider lynching you? Play better.

@nacho why are you not doing stuff? I think this is the third time I have asked you.

If miss doesn't claim I am going to vote him and move somebody else 'S there too. I will be happy when nos and lld or the masons resolved.

Oh and I hadn't played here in a year cos of the last game where cupcake was a giant jerk. Yes I am okay with lynching that slot.

Like ffs, what happened to pple actually understanding how the game is played where some of you pple don't seem to know that the informed bs uninformed dynamic is for scum to blend in with town.

Like scum are likely in the pple are doing nothing and fading into the background, let's look there

if im a jerk for trying to sort you by asking you why you're voting us and why we're scum then I really dont know what to say

like ???????????????????????????????????????

Guess I'll be sure to never ask anyone to explain their votes or scumreads ever again because it can be triggering

You either are not reading correctly or you are deliberately misinterpreting my post. Try reading it again mebbe you will get it the second time. I remain hopeful.

[AnonymousGhost]

SK seems OP in a mini

I've seen it before but it's a pain in the ass

And multiball in a mini - this technically

isn't even a mini

w/ 14 players - isn't OP?

[Fate]

SH WITH YOUR BLASPHEMOUS WAYS

13 PLAYERS IS A MINI I DIDNT BREAK ANYRULES

[Nosferatu]

why aren't we lynching Nosferatu again?

no fucking clue

[camntsuki]

I remain hopeful

I actually agree with PolicyLynching kastuki generally...so I feel you. But obviously I can't really entertain that idea ~this~ game.

[thepixiecollective]

VOTE: thepixiecollective

you two were so adamant the last two days about the masons being legit and harping on the fact that they were "self-resolving".

the masons are a self resolving issue and it shld be treated as town until proven otherwise.

they are self resolving. you freaking know this.

mason claims are self resolving. end of story

come today, you've changed your tune from 'nacho's not posting like town, but he's a mason' to 'nacho's not posting like town, therefore scum', echoing Muffin's "no town posting Staeg/Nacho" sentiment towards the masons.

what gives?

It's called re- evaluation. Have you over it?

You can see the progression of my reads if you cld be bothered to read my posts you wld see it. Sort your own. As inn I actually read your posts and have noticed when you change your mind.

[thepixiecollective]

Retrograde is God's way of telling everyone to slow the fuck down.

Vote Count:

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (2): Dunnstral, thepixiecollective
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (1): Nachomamma8
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (1): AnonymousGhost
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (3) Kuribo, camntsuki, Staeg, LadyLambdaDelta
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (0)
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (2) Nosferatu, zMuffinzMan
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Not Voting:

With 10 alive it takes 6 to obliterate someone

Mermaid Warrior Vote Count:

camntsuki-Sagitarrius: To Unify (0)
zMuffinMan- Virgo: To Serve (0)
AnonymousGhost- Scorpio: To Transform (0):
thepixiecollective- Cancer: To Nourish (1) thepixiecollective
Nosferatu-Gemini: To Listen (0)
Kuribo- Gemini: To Listen (5) zMuffunzMan, AnonymousGhost, camntsuki, LLD, Kuribo
Nachomamma8- Pisces: To Let Go (0)
Staeg- Aquarius: To Liberate (0)
LadyLambdadelta- Taurus: To Produce (0)
Dunnstral- Cancer: To Nourish (0)

Most votes by nighttime will be nominated.

Math is hard

[AnonymousGhost]

ou can see the progression of my reads if you cld be bothered to read my posts you wld see it.

What progression? You've repeatedly said Nacho isn't town posting, "isn't reaching out", and then complained about it.

[thepixiecollective]

why aren't we lynching Nosferatu again?

I have been saying old or nod all day

This is the part where you reach out to your reads and ask for support. He is refusing to claim, so lynch him imo. If he is doing this as town he is game throwing and will be on the naughty list cos that
wld be really shitty to replace into a game and then say fuck you to the mod and players by not playing. I think lld's tendency to bus is rubbing nos the wrong way. At leafy that is what looks like to me.

Anyhoo

VOTE: nosferatu

Also can I point out that my role is broken if it were a scum role, it means I cld steal a vote day before lylo and auto win and you pple wld never see it coming.

Like there is town motivation in revealing it to town so that we can have an extra vote. [Insert snarky comment here]

[thepixiecollective]

I remain hopeful

I actually agree with PolicyLynching kastuki generally...so I feel you. But obviously I can't really entertain that idea ~this~ game.

He can be a helluva lot of fun most of the time and then somewhere in miss hammer we start to clash when we are both town

[thepixiecollective]

ou can see the progression of my reads if you cld be bothered to read my posts you wld see it.

What progression? You've repeatedly said Nacho isn't town posting, "isn't reaching out", and then complained about it.

Again learn to read. It is in my iso and if you wld actually read it instead of cherry picking things out of context to support your freaking awful "case" on us you might get 2+2=4 instead of the answer 5 like you have been doing.

I was nice for 2 whole game days, I am making progress

I blame kuribo (ilu, you kuribo)