Newbie 1882 - Game Over

[Skygazer]

I think Zito is town here

why

Why do you think Zito is scum? Like the only reason you've given is lying low but you've kind of been doing the same thing here

[Skygazer]

CT can you point to some specific posts by HWS that you like?

[Papa Zito]

To be honest no one is engaging me really

Ok. Ask me a question.

[Skygazer]

If I flip town how likely is UD-scum to you?

[Papa Zito]

If I flip town how likely is UD-scum to you?

I don't think UD's alignment really depends on yours. There is a perfectly viable scenario (doc protect) in which you're both town. With no counterclaims I don't really have any reason to assume UD is something other than what he claimed.

[Completly Trustworthy]

Sky, in 485, I included links to four of HeWhoSwims posts.I have already provided examples of posts he made which I have liked. The only reason I can think of for you questioning me further about my opinion of him is that you want me to suspect him instead of you. I did say I was going to vote on people from the Ceejay wagon and that you and HeWhoSwims were my biggest suspects in 408. So I believe that you are scum using my prior stated suspicion of him in a last ditch attempt to save yourself. I'm so confident in my scumread of you that I will vote you and not move off your wagon from this point in time.
VOTE: Skygazer
However, townies, remember to continue talking until the deadline even if the lynch is already determined. I would like some further discussion of Chardev and Reckoner so i can get more solid reads on them.

[Skygazer]

Fair enough I forgot about the posts you linked but when I flip town can you stay vigilant of HWS? I don't like how he threw shade at my reads in a way that discredits them even if I do flip town.

[Skygazer]

Hey zito/HWS, you wanna,, drop that hammer?

If there is a doc in this set-up I think we'd benefit from cutting this short (I'm also quickly moving into apathy mode)

[Papa Zito]

I want to at least get some words from Chardev first.

[Skygazer]

Who? I keep forgetting they exist.

[teacher]

If I flip town how likely is UD-scum to you?

Sky presumably if you’re hung up on UD, you think a doc prevented a night kill and there is a tracker. So why aren’t you arguing in favor of a tracker claim? I really am ambivalent in that, but it seems the only way for town you to solve.

Also kindly don’t drop the hammer until Chardev picks up the prod or is replaced. It will be helpful whichever way Sky flips to know more about that slot.

[teacher]

Pedit kinda: yea that.

[Skygazer]

I mean if there was a tracker with any pertinent info to claim then they would've claimed by now barring chardev

Although I'm secretly paranoid we're in tracker-doctor for reasons but what are the odds of that, am I right?

[Skygazer]

Like if a tracker doesn't have any sort of deus machina that saves me then they should hold off on claiming until tomorrow imo and out their results then.

[HeWhoSwims]

To be honest no one is engaging me really

Have I done anything else this game day

Fair enough I forgot about the posts you linked but when I flip town can you stay vigilant of HWS? I don't like how he threw shade at my reads in a way that discredits them even if I do flip town.

This is what I mean. To me it seems you are wary of me solely because I'm being hard on you right now. And it's just a fact that flipping town doesn't make your reads right (or wrong)
Nor does being on a mislynch of you if you flip town make anyone scum... There's 5 people going to be on there and 3 are town at least. Which goes for any mislynch of course.

Hey zito/HWS, you wanna,, drop that hammer?

If there is a doc in this set-up I think we'd benefit from cutting this short (I'm also quickly moving into apathy mode)

No I don't rn but you make it seem like I do?

[brassherald]

Votecount 2.03

Skygazer (3) -

xRECKONERx, teacher, Completly Trustworthy

Not Voting (5) -

UglyDuck, Chardev, Skygazer, Papa Zito, HeWhoSwims

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-08-06 20:00:00).

Chardev is being replaced as he did not pick up his prod.

[teacher]

I think Zito is town here

why

Why do you think Zito is scum? Like the only reason you've given is lying low but you've kind of been doing the same thing here

Can you (Sky) answer the question? I appreciate that you turned it around, and dont disagree with your own questions. But can you answer it too?

[UglyDuck]

Someone mentioned the tracker game.
I think this would be a good idea prior to lynching my result (Sky).

vote: yes tracker game

[teacher]

UD is a yes without reasons.
Papa is a no without reasons.

I’m genuinely conflicted. I see pluses (the only way we can fully clear UD and basically incriminate Sky) and minuses (scum can fake claim and coast in C2; even in B2 it removes the quasi-investigative since they have to be JKEd so they can’t soft a clear if sky flips scum)

I think I’m a soft yes rn,but I really am open to being convinced.

[Skygazer]

Unless a tracker straight up says "hey I saw UD visit someone else" then I'm not keen on outing a tracker and would rather be lynched

[Skygazer]

516: both players must have to have their reasons for lying low. Try to figure out if the reasons make sense from a town perspective or scum perspective. I think that both are possible but obviously based on tone/participation/predicted motivations/whatever I'm less wary of Zito.

[UglyDuck]

Unless a tracker straight up says "hey I saw UD visit someone else" then I'm not keen on outing a tracker and would rather be lynched

The tracker game (at least the one i am aware of) is built around the purpose of not outting the tracker.

[teacher]

Ah. I suppose that is a version of “hypo”, which I’ve only heard of for cop.

Fair enough on the real claim idea. I’ll let the idea die it’s slow ignominious death.

[Papa Zito]

Someone mentioned the tracker game.
I think this would be a good idea prior to lynching my result (Sky).

vote: yes tracker game

? What do you mean by the tracker game exactly?

[Completly Trustworthy]

I believe that no power role(Tracker or Doctor) should claim in this day phase unless it would reveal a person claiming another pr is lying.
Since the lynch is all but determined, and I need to wait for Chardev's replacement to arrive before becoming willing to have sky hammered, I would like to ask some questions of the various players.
UglyDuck, what is opinion of Teacher? You alluded to having some suspicion in 235, but never explained why. Did he do something weird you picked up on?
UglyDuck, can you give your take on HeWhoSwims and Papa Zito?
Reckoner, did you scumread Sky before it was revealed who got jailkept or are you only voting for her because of what UglyDuck said?
Papa Zito, what are your scumreads? Also, do you believe UglyDuck is telling the truth? If not, then please list your reasons.
Skygazer, in 512, you imply that UglyDuck is scum, why do you believe that?
HeWhoSwims, can you post a readlist?