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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:42 am

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yuuup L-1
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:44 am

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Hammer away, I've said my piece
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:44 am

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Ok
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:25 am

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working on ISO, starting nw
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:27 am

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In post 592, teacher wrote:
In post 582, UglyDuck wrote:also also - someone else should unvote so they are not at L-2 for the same reasons.
it would be bad to allow scum to double tap town why??????
My point was on the merit that L-1 skum could self hammer to end the day early.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 193, Skygazer wrote:I like where Lefty's vote was when he...
left
the game... so I'm keeping it on UDuck

CT is transparent af and town

UDuck is going for potential lynchbait (implied by ), their longest post () is just a bunch of information over analysis. Not seeing any gamesolving.

Zito, what's your read on Reck?
In post 196, Skygazer wrote:
In post 195, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Skygazer- What do you think of the players besides me and Duck?
chardev and demonic are possible lynchbait
leaning town on teacher, leaning even lighter town on sunny
zito/reck need to be sorted later on

basically I haven't interacted w anyone enough to do any substantial sorting
hmmmm...

I just had a crazy tinfoil idea, but it revolves around Sky being scum,


do you wanna hear it?
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:42 am

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Sure
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:47 am

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umm didnt mean to quote those.


the quotes mean nothing.

the tinfoil: Uglyduck is bussing Skygazer
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:50 am

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I’d be ok with that :P
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:51 am

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shit

UD they're onto us
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:52 am

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thinking Eragon is town here tho
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:53 am

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to be fair, that's kinda a light read

I think scum wouldn't come up with that kind of tinfoil theory if they knew my alignment
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:54 am

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reasoning coming soon
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:54 am

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I mean the theory is quite tinfoil, as you would be outed by a bass claim.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:54 am

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bass?
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:00 pm

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I've also completed two games with Era and this doesn't really seem like his scum game tonally

Also look at that avatar, it's so trustworthy
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:00 pm

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Mass. Autocorrect.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:00 pm

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*two scum-Era games
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:08 pm

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Going into mylo tomorrow I think both scum are most likely in {HWS, Reck, Zito, teacher}, strongly leaning towards HWS and Reck with Zito and teacher as town with a mix of healthy paranoia.

UD is unlikely at this point barring tracker/doctor but don't automatically lynch UD tomorrow with a tracker and doctor claim, analyze those claims closely af.

Eragon you should hammer me soon I'm antsy to get into the dead thread and apologize to CJ :p
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:16 pm

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In post 193, Skygazer wrote:I like where Lefty's vote was when he...
left
the game... so I'm keeping it on UDuck

CT is transparent af and town

UDuck is going for potential lynchbait (implied by ), their longest post () is just a bunch of information over analysis. Not seeing any gamesolving.

Zito, what's your read on Reck?
I like these reads overall
In post 196, Skygazer wrote:
In post 195, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Skygazer- What do you think of the players besides me and Duck?
chardev and demonic are possible lynchbait
leaning town on teacher, leaning even lighter town on sunny
zito/reck need to be sorted later on

basically I haven't interacted w anyone enough to do any substantial sorting
mind-meld here
In post 211, Skygazer wrote:
In post 210, teacher wrote:But Bussing -- scum voting scum when serious lynch time comes -- is more of a D2+ thing. So to lynch scum today, we need to convince a supermajority of town to all land in the same place 5/7, or 71%.
I've seen scum bus on D1 during "serious lynch time." I think it's pretty dangerous to assume scum won't bus on D1.
In post 210, teacher wrote:But my issue is that, even after I made my pool and L-1 leaning apparent, there has been no serious counterpush. There is no serious counter push or wagon now. Simply, I dont think this is scum, because if it was I would expect a little more activity in general. I think its been quiet in part because scum are happy to let town burn itself.
You made your pool apparent only like two-to-three days ago and there just hasn't been a whole lot of activity in this game to begin with. I'm not sure how you made it apparent that you were leaning L-1 because you specifically said that it's too early to place someone at L-1. Between CT and Zito (and myself), I don't really see anyone on the UglyDuck wagon as scum at this moment. I think that if scum were content with this, there would be scum on the wagon, and this may be a bit preemptive to say this, but I don't think there is. There is a second serious wagon right now - chardev. Chardev has an equal amount of votes to UD, one of those votes was made recently, and all three players on the wagon [UD, Reck, Sunny] are in your lynch pool. Doesn't that stick out to you at all? I think you're being a bit too quick to discount the wagon.

Anyways, I'd much rather lynch a player I find scummy than settle for a flashwagon-policy-compromise three days before deadline. I mean, there's already a possibility that chronic flaked and will be replaced, anyways.
"Ive seen scum bus D1."
They bring out this info, and make it seem maybe that scum won't bus this game now. but if UD and Skygazer bussed, its a good cover
>The shade-ish stuff on teacher doesn't really sit well with me

In post 331, Skygazer wrote:VOTE: Chardev

L-1
:dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:
calls them lynchbait but votes them anyways(my slot, so bias, but you know...)
In post 346, Skygazer wrote:With UD's claim my lynchpool is kind of down to {Chardev, Reck, CJ} for now for very weak reasons. I'm not really confident in any of those so I wanted to stir things up with the L-1 vote and see what happens.
claims /=/ locktown
you called char lynchbait

In post 348, Skygazer wrote:Do you think scum zito would go out of his way to withold his reads when it'd be much easier for him to fabricate some and not draw attention to himself? Because I don't think so and that's why zito isn't in my pool.
this could be TMI right here. I can get the mindset but im not sure town brings this up to TR someone
In post 351, Skygazer wrote:His reads feel p safe and pretty much align with the general consensus of the town/votes. He scumreads the largest wagon, and the next three scummiest players on his reads list contain the two other people with votes on them at the time iirc (myself and Zito). Then he townreads basically everyone without a vote on them at the moment except reck. Like, his entrance seems relatively null besides that I guess but his reads give me pause.
who was this talking about
Question

(I made it big so you could pick it out)
In post 379, Skygazer wrote:I mean my reads have been rather weak so I also wanted to see how various players reacted to my L-1

I didn't think this wagon would be able to gain traction but I was wrong about that and I prefer this to Chardev

VOTE: CJ
ok.

this was a vote on flipped town, so just here for reference
In post 421, Skygazer wrote:
In post 408, Completly Trustworthy wrote:and switched to Chardev for no reason other than to avoid a no lynch(which rarely happens day one.)
To be fair you could argue that no lynches don't occur D1 because players like me will compromise on a lynch to specifically avoid it :P
:cool: :D :)
In post 422, Skygazer wrote:Wary of Zito/Reck because they're both playing p lowkey

I want to see chardev's updated thoughts for the day but I feel like scum-char would've hopped on CJ out of survivalism??

HWS's questions ping me because they're pretty weak

teacher/CT are probs town
leaning town on Zito and Char over Reck and HWS
your wary of zito but lean town??
weak questions ping you?
In post 450, Skygazer wrote:Reck, why are you so ready to believe UD's claim after null reading/fence sitting on him for all of day one?

UD, why'd you JK me?
asking why the JK, gives the JK a chance to explain their reasoning w/out seeming weird
In post 452, Skygazer wrote:If you think I'm likely scum and you say you had a successful jailkeep then why aren't you voting for me at this point?

Like I know town-you would know there's a possibility of being protected last night and you acknowledge that it creates uncertainty but if you don't want doc to claim then doesn't that mean town-you should be voting for me at this point?
I can answer the first part.(maybe)

because your scum buddies and he wants to see where the town goes first
In post 454, Skygazer wrote:Guys, PR hunting is still a thing. I just finished a Newbie where a player that was generally scumread was killed off N1 because the scum team thought he had a power.
is this a hint on who scum hit last night?
In post 467, Skygazer wrote:Hmmm... I'm thinking UD and Reck maybe? But JK is still such a bold claim that I'm not willing to rule out night shenanigans.

I don't like the early weak shade thrown at Zito from Reck tbh, it seems too easy and like he's playing off of Newbie's tendency to have paranoia over ICs.

I think Zito is town here
maybe
In post 469, Skygazer wrote:Hmm maybe I should've read that PT better

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I know I'm the lynch today, but I want to leave yall with enough to work with when I flip
accepting the Lynch is ??? you can try and fight it
In post 479, Skygazer wrote:There's a huge benefit to discussing reads with me before I'm lynched: it'll give me someone for me to bounce ideas off of while I try to gamesolve in my last moments. I'm at the point where this is the last thing I can do in this game to try to help my faction win barring a tracker claim like Zito said.

And if I'm scum and you get me to elaborate further then you can use your words against me to find my partner tomorrow (:

Like, seriously, I'll be confirmed as town by tomorrow after my flip so my reads will actually mean something. I want to flesh them out so they can't be ignored.
reads are also a good way to distance/buddy
In post 506, Skygazer wrote:Fair enough I forgot about the posts you linked but when I flip town can you stay vigilant of HWS? I don't like how he threw shade at my reads in a way that discredits them even if I do flip town.
if sky flips scum HWS is town
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:21 pm

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so UD/Sky


point 1) sky's willingness to get lynched either
a)they are scum being bussed by UD
b)they are scum thats given up which is ???
c)they are town thats given up which is also ???

point 2) the interactions
A) what is UD's read if I flip Town/Scum?
B)Town's UD b/c claim
c)asking JK to explain

point 3) latest post on MyLo
a)if they bus, and we Lynch in the group, mafia wins. all it takes is another Lynch
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:22 pm

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intent to hammer in 1 hour and 38 minutes

7:00 PM PST
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:25 pm

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351 was about CJ

Lost my townread on you tbh it looks like youre trying to find an excuse to hammer me

I didn't exactly "give up," I got quasi-guiltied and it's abundantly clear that no one is going to look past that. I still contributed, I still tried to scum hunt, but this is an extremely frustrating position to be in right now

VOTE: Skygazer

im out, peace, gl town
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:27 pm

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In post 618, Skygazer wrote:Going into mylo tomorrow I think both scum are most likely in {HWS, Reck, Zito, teacher}, strongly leaning towards HWS and Reck with Zito and teacher as town with a mix of healthy paranoia.

UD is unlikely at this point barring tracker/doctor but don't automatically lynch UD tomorrow with a tracker and doctor claim, analyze those claims closely af.

Eragon you should hammer me soon
I'm antsy to get into the dead thread and apologize to CJ :p
you legit asked me to hammer you
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:29 pm

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and instead you made a long wall post detailing your scumread and I could very well be wrong but it could also be scum trying to have reason to hammer without drawing crit

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