Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Toogeloo]

for

[Theta Alpine]

shall we have a vote for or against double leader?

there are actually more then two options on the table here stun

[Nero Cain]

Stun me dying would involve

Math fucking up (giving power to scum

)

RIP Hana

[Sakura Hana]

LOL xD

[Nancy Drew 39]

nd39, why are you so adamant about shutting this line of discussion down?

I want to ensure Sakura is leader. Sakura’s leadership can only really be jeopardized by vote splitting, if not enough people vote. She was supposed to be leader today but likely lost to voter complacency. I want to prevent that from happening again. What do you find so difficult to understand about that?

[Sakura Hana]

I mean at the very least if i do die, that gives you guys something to look into tomorrow.

[Theta Alpine]

nd39, why are you so adamant about shutting this line of discussion down?

I want to ensure Sakura is leader. Sakura’s leadership can only really be jeopardized by vote splitting, if not enough people vote. She was supposed to be leader today but likely lost to voter complacency. I want to prevent that from happening again. What do you find so difficult to understand about that?

would you like to respond to my 12-4 [13-3 if toog scum] proposal then

[Toogeloo]

[stungun0404]

nd39, why are you so adamant about shutting this line of discussion down?

I want to ensure Sakura is leader. Sakura’s leadership can only really be jeopardized by vote splitting, if not enough people vote. She was supposed to be leader today but likely lost to voter complacency. I want to prevent that from happening again. What do you find so difficult to understand about that?

i agree, i have wanted sakura to be leader for some time, but also want to account for worst case scenario

key difference: we had a vote tie last day phase planned and thus were not aptly hunting scum because of 4 scum we wanted to split 8-8 on two highly likely town players; this day phase we split 10-6 with clear town leader

[Toogeloo]

[Sando]

nd39, why are you so adamant about shutting this line of discussion down?

I want to ensure Sakura is leader. Sakura’s leadership can only really be jeopardized by vote splitting, if not enough people vote. She was supposed to be leader today but likely lost to voter complacency. I want to prevent that from happening again. What do you find so difficult to understand about that?

We're building in a buffer that makes it slightly less likely Sakura will be leader due to lazy town but protects us from scum-fuckery.

You'd agree scum would like to kill Sakura right? We don't

think

it can happen, but we've been wrong before. If it happens and we don't have a fallback, we're kinda fucked.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@nancy: i really think it benefits us best to keep every alleyway we can open to hunt for scum

if that means voting for 2 different consensus leaders, then that absolutely is important!

we can trace many of the votes back at later dates and trace what went wrong where once we get a valid number of flips

this could be crucial towards finding scum

i say we go for 2 leaders. i’d volunteer myself for the second leader if not drixx if people are ok with that. sakura would obviously still get priority with the votes by like 10-6 or 9-7.... BUT WHY SHOULD WE DARE SHUT DOWN ANY METHODS WE MAY HAVE TO TRACE SCUM JUST BECAUSE WE’RE ALL DEAD CERTAIN THAT SOME PLAYERS ARE TOWN?

fa is another option i would be ok with here, but she has been leader twice already

A) how does this help us find scum?

B) Why are you possibly risking Sakura’s leadership possibly being derailed?

a- depends on what happens — either one of the 3 possibilities sakura mentioned happened
or a considerable number of people misvoted

b- i am not
as long as all town vote correctly the contingency will never get picked unless sakura dies

But that’s been my point. They haven’t been voting correctly. Otherwise Sakura should have been leader over Math.

[Nero Cain]

nd39, why are you so adamant about shutting this line of discussion down?

I want to ensure Sakura is leader. Sakura’s leadership can only really be jeopardized by vote splitting, if not enough people vote. She was supposed to be leader today but likely lost to voter complacency. I want to prevent that from happening again. What do you find so difficult to understand about that?

even if we mislynched today it would be 13v3. We could split the vote 7/6 and guarantee scum can't get leader.

[stungun0404]

no nd, 8-8 split last day phase means sakura was not necessarily supposed to beat math

[Nero Cain]

I guess my paranoia is that Nancy is scum and wants Hana as sole leader b/c they DO have someway to kill her or something.

[Nero Cain]

Who becomes leader if Hana dies?

[Sakura Hana]

Who becomes leader if Hana dies?

The 2nd most voted player.

[Nero Cain]

Otherwise Sakura should have been leader over Math.

scum wanted Math as leader? She prob town reading atleast one scum.

[Sakura Hana]

Unless i was the 2nd most voted, in which case whether i live or not wouldnt matter.

[Nancy Drew 39]

no nd, 8-8 split last day phase means sakura was not necessarily supposed to beat math

That’s probably because not all the promised Sakura voters voted. I think splitting the votes just makes it easier for scum to mess with the voting, since Sakura arms herself with SS bp tonight.

[Nero Cain]

Who becomes leader if Hana dies?

The 2nd most voted player.

then there's no reason to NOT split the vote,

[Nero Cain]

Unless i was the 2nd most voted, in which case whether i live or not wouldnt matter.

DON'T DIE ON ME HANA!

[MathBlade]

@Nero next person with the most votes
@Nero I am the person who suggested Sakura/Drixx combo. What we have been doing is last leader picks two we vote from to prevent scum picking one of their own.

I feel like we had an even distribution plan that enforced Sakura and scum are going “nope” especially with the number of leader choices.

I feel like scum are trying to sabotage everything they can today. It’s really depressing to come back to the thread think all is good and nope.

What are your thoughts regarding that?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I guess my paranoia is that Nancy is scum and wants Hana as sole leader b/c they DO have someway to kill her or something.

No, I want Sakura to be the leader. I’m not entirely confident in anyone else but please find some tinfoil reasons to scumread me for that.

[MathBlade]

Otherwise Sakura should have been leader over Math.

scum wanted Math as leader? She prob town reading atleast one scum.

...I am he please. ?? Assuming you meant to suggest I am townreading a scum.