So because I'm not town confirmed I'n wolf confirmed? Run that by me one more time?In post 5600, Vecna wrote:Please, please please confirm that with the GM would you?In post 5541, Nosferatu wrote:i would think that mafia count as humansIn post 5517, Vecna wrote:I think im missing your point Ank. The take-away is that Gamma has been the only human in there untill creature got invited.
Human + mafia + vampire, or so the story goes
Its a rather important detail, because if it does Gamma is not clear at all like were assuming right now, and might be very much in need of lynching
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Didn't we already get a sorta-explanation for Oath's result? You seem to be pulling the full dumbass play on this push. Not a fan.In post 5616, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch Gamma Emerald and take Mathblade's toy away.
Im much more comfortable with town controlling the lynch and having Nos shoot at stuff than having that hood continue operating.
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Ok is this just the avoid common sense game?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am legit just confused here.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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1) If you’re saying town doesn’t have two BPs a jailkeep and an angel why are you voting Gamma instead of Nos?In post 5612, Vecna wrote:Like, im not saying Titus is confirmed scum. But saying she's confirmed town based off this one thing is really stupid imo.
Maybe the wolf team actually tried to kill you N2 and thats why they know you must be something special. Its not like town is gonna have a 2nd BP on top of Oath, so even then its a pretty simple deduction.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I fell asleep. I just figured I was.In post 5610, Vecna wrote:
in fact, fuck it, ill do it myself.In post 5606, Vecna wrote:
Ask the gm for confirmation already? Thats what she's there for. You have the power to 100% townclear the slot, and for some reason you havent yet done so.In post 5578, MathBlade wrote:
May not be town?In post 5576, MathBlade wrote:
Oh derpIn post 5572, glowball wrote:Im sayimg that youll do yourself a disservice not acknowledging that mafiate could very well be human. Nothing indicates that they aren't. You're using the absence of a thing to prove the status of another and obviously this game is odd. Im just saying its not 100% guaranteed that mafiate cant be human.
So Gamma may be town?
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He's not confirmed human.
I asked the GM, Lady angel/Brian skies counted as a human.
Either way, if the hood manages to kill tonight itll confirm that he is human, so me voting for him is a derp move.
Couldve scored some easy points there to point that out Math/GE. I really dont know why you guys are so slow on the mechanisms/logic of your own toy.
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Also, how would Hebichan's wincondition even work.
Say that town wins. But Hebichan hasnt eliminated whatever other sources would count as a threat. How does she win? Can she only win if we eliminate the last wolf after we eliminated these other threats?
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@VecnaIn post 5629, MathBlade wrote:
1) If you’re saying town doesn’t have two BPs a jailkeep and an angel why are you voting Gamma instead of Nos?In post 5612, Vecna wrote:Like, im not saying Titus is confirmed scum. But saying she's confirmed town based off this one thing is really stupid imo.
Maybe the wolf team actually tried to kill you N2 and thats why they know you must be something special. Its not like town is gonna have a 2nd BP on top of Oath, so even then its a pretty simple deduction.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Im not gonna vote Nos. Pretty sure a Mafia traitor without an actual mafia faction would be considered bastard, no?In post 5629, MathBlade wrote:
1) If you’re saying town doesn’t have two BPs a jailkeep and an angel why are you voting Gamma instead of Nos?In post 5612, Vecna wrote:Like, im not saying Titus is confirmed scum. But saying she's confirmed town based off this one thing is really stupid imo.
Maybe the wolf team actually tried to kill you N2 and thats why they know you must be something special. Its not like town is gonna have a 2nd BP on top of Oath, so even then its a pretty simple deduction.
Like designing a role pm to have fake hidden teammates, fake hidden teammates that you replace once the teammates that dont even exist die? That is all kinds of wrong.
Whatever Nos is claiming to stay alive, or whatever cool toys he has is up to him. As long as he helps us murder some wolves I couldnt care less.-
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That is actually not the case. The same was done in 42 player game where there was a deputy and not a cop.In post 5635, Vecna wrote:
Im not gonna vote Nos. Pretty sure a Mafia traitor without an actual mafia faction would be considered bastard, no?In post 5629, MathBlade wrote:
1) If you’re saying town doesn’t have two BPs a jailkeep and an angel why are you voting Gamma instead of Nos?In post 5612, Vecna wrote:Like, im not saying Titus is confirmed scum. But saying she's confirmed town based off this one thing is really stupid imo.
Maybe the wolf team actually tried to kill you N2 and thats why they know you must be something special. Its not like town is gonna have a 2nd BP on top of Oath, so even then its a pretty simple deduction.
Like designing a role pm to have fake hidden teammates, fake hidden teammates that you replace once the teammates that dont even exist die? That is all kinds of wrong.
Whatever Nos is claiming to stay alive, or whatever cool toys he has is up to him. As long as he helps us murder some wolves I couldnt care less.
It’s a traditional mod maneuver. Just because there is a backup doesn’t mean the original exists and it doesn’t mean the original shares the same wincon if the original role exists. I have had a scum game where scum enabled a town PR to help mitigate swing.
If Nos does indeed have a gun and is mafia that doesn’t make him town. Or not a threat.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Hmmmmm.In post 5636, MathBlade wrote:
That is actually not the case. The same was done in 42 player game where there was a deputy and not a cop.In post 5635, Vecna wrote:
Im not gonna vote Nos. Pretty sure a Mafia traitor without an actual mafia faction would be considered bastard, no?In post 5629, MathBlade wrote:
1) If you’re saying town doesn’t have two BPs a jailkeep and an angel why are you voting Gamma instead of Nos?In post 5612, Vecna wrote:Like, im not saying Titus is confirmed scum. But saying she's confirmed town based off this one thing is really stupid imo.
Maybe the wolf team actually tried to kill you N2 and thats why they know you must be something special. Its not like town is gonna have a 2nd BP on top of Oath, so even then its a pretty simple deduction.
Like designing a role pm to have fake hidden teammates, fake hidden teammates that you replace once the teammates that dont even exist die? That is all kinds of wrong.
Whatever Nos is claiming to stay alive, or whatever cool toys he has is up to him. As long as he helps us murder some wolves I couldnt care less.
It’s a traditional mod maneuver. Just because there is a backup doesn’t mean the original exists and it doesn’t mean the original shares the same wincon if the original role exists. I have had a scum game where scum enabled a town PR to help mitigate swing.
If Nos does indeed have a gun and is mafia that doesn’t make him town. Or not a threat.
The kill flavour of Lady angel DID state she dropped a gun when we lynched her. I was already puzzled by that, but just assumed it was flavour.-
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Now let’s assume for a second scum have a PT and Hebi is town.In post 5637, Vecna wrote:Although ill grant you that the ammount of protectives is extremely high in this setup. But so is the number of kills flying around on a nightly basis
Then with the amount of protectives scum would need a strongman for balance. Something to be able to actually do something about Nos and Hebi and the Angel and Almost50.
Then furthermore assume anyone halfway competent as scum exists on wolves.
Why do they not strongman Hebi?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So there is two ways about thisIn post 5639, Vecna wrote:But it makes no sense since the shot-killing continued after we lynched her.
Having a deputy without a sherrif is one thing. Crafting a role pm that points to teammates, points to you getting access to the Scum chat......
1) Nos is telling the truth which means that Titus town which means Titus likely has a guilty on Hebi.
2) Nos is fake claiming here which means that he would be scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Just scum of another type.In post 5639, Vecna wrote:But it makes no sense since the shot-killing continued after we lynched her.
Having a deputy without a sherrif is one thing. Crafting a role pm that points to teammates, points to you getting access to the Scum chat......
And to be frank as long as he doesn’t kill me and one human stays alive and all the wolves are dead I don’t give a fuck if Nos is scum unless a wolf.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Since Nos likely has to follow his wincondition it’s more likely that Nos is truthtelling here
In which case by correlation Hebi is almost certainly scum for not being dead yet. The fact scum took out a protective and lost a kill means they don’t have a strongman.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Im gonna refrain from trying to guess why the unknown scums did x or y for now, untill we actually get some flips and some information that might give us something real to go on.
With the ammount of replacements in this game I wouldnt be surprised if scum actions are completely uninformed.
Neither would I be surprised if scum didnt kill hebi because hebi is scum. It still would be a crazy courageous play to just out your result at the start of D2 as scum though.-
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Hebi was likely told to claim a guilty on Titus to rile me up on her so I would become a scum advocate. The guilty Titus has is likely genuine.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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A limited use strongman is a possibility. Preserve those charges for necessity and all that. Would fit at least somewhat with the (fake)claim that Muffin is pushing.In post 5643, MathBlade wrote:Since Nos likely has to follow his wincondition it’s more likely that Nos is truthtelling here
In which case by correlation Hebi is almost certainly scum for not being dead yet. The fact scum took out a protective and lost a kill means they don’t have a strongman.
Either way, I dont agree that Titus is towncleared if Nos is telling the truth. We really cannot completely state that is the case.
If the scumteam is Titus, Tora, Hebi (just throwing out a silly example) he already knows none of the other likely candidates are the ones doing the kill. If the scumteam has a watcher-type ability, etc etc. Plenty of ways to deduce who the mafia is as scum in a team.-
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Not really. It lends credence to her actions. Especially if scum don’t have a PT she is outing who are the major threats so the other wolves can kill them.In post 5644, Vecna wrote:Im gonna refrain from trying to guess why the unknown scums did x or y for now, untill we actually get some flips and some information that might give us something real to go on.
With the ammount of replacements in this game I wouldnt be surprised if scum actions are completely uninformed.
Neither would I be surprised if scum didnt kill hebi because hebi is scum. It still would be a crazy courageous play to just out your result at the start of D2 as scum though.
He who swims made himself obvious by continually talking rolestopper that he was a PR of some kind despite how much I told him to shut up.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ummm I kinda asked that question when people started making that assumption?In post 5632, Vecna wrote:He's not confirmed human.
I asked the GM, Lady angel/Brian skies counted as a human.
Either way, if the hood manages to kill tonight itll confirm that he is human, so me voting for him is a derp move.
Couldve scored some easy points there to point that out Math/GE. I really dont know why you guys are so slow on the mechanisms/logic of your own toy.
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In that world scum do not have a PT. If scum have a PT there is nothing more dangerous than a PT cop.In post 5646, Vecna wrote:
A limited use strongman is a possibility. Preserve those charges for necessity and all that. Would fit at least somewhat with the (fake)claim that Muffin is pushing.In post 5643, MathBlade wrote:Since Nos likely has to follow his wincondition it’s more likely that Nos is truthtelling here
In which case by correlation Hebi is almost certainly scum for not being dead yet. The fact scum took out a protective and lost a kill means they don’t have a strongman.
Either way, I dont agree that Titus is towncleared if Nos is telling the truth. We really cannot completely state that is the case.
If the scumteam is Titus, Tora, Hebi (just throwing out a silly example) he already knows none of the other likely candidates are the ones doing the kill. If the scumteam has a watcher-type ability, etc etc. Plenty of ways to deduce who the mafia is as scum in a team.
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