NY 215: HMS Erebus - Game Over!

[davesaz]

On meta dive (what little there is), popo is showing something slightly different than the scum game, but there aren't any completed town games to compare by. And of course there isn't much in this game to compare by either.

[Nosferatu]

Remind me who your lynch pool is, and I'll help you figure out what's wrong.

{you, you, you, not you}

[davesaz]

1. Completly Trustworthy -- seems to have a lot of appeasement
2. Hugo Stiglitz -- insufficient data
3. Saudade -- town
4. popopopopopopo -- weak scum, doesn't match scum meta very closely but no town game to compare to
5. Garmr -- insufficient data
6. Nosferatu -- town
7. Purrcocet -- weak town
8. Akarin -- weak town
9. Scioness Sajj -- should be enough posting but don't remember, which is a red flag. needs review
10. Lapsa -- has actually done something since I voted, but needs review.
11. GammaEmerald -- hard for me to read, weak town, if I get time I really should do more to learn how to read him.
12. tictac -- insufficient data? don't remember
13. Io -- weak town, seemed to be trying to solve but conclusions raised my eyebrows a bit, needs review
14. Malakittens -- did something scummy but hard to find a motivation for doing it.
15. davesaz -- role pm says I'm town

UNVOTE:
To do: Reread Scioness, Lapsa, tictac. Look more closely at timing of CT. Meta CT if possible.

[popopopopopopo]

On meta dive (what little there is), popo is showing something slightly different than the scum game, but there aren't any completed town games to compare by. And of course there isn't much in this game to compare by either.

what was the purpose of this post? useless post

[davesaz]

Helps me remember what I've done. At 56 it isn't a given... Tells other people what the results are. I'd expect most people to be able to guess these things.

[Malakittens]

@dave: what did I do that was scummy? First time this whole game I really feel like you mentioned me

[Completly Trustworthy]

Purrcocet, what did you mean when you said Lapsa pointed out Akarin as town in 518? I don't think that happened.

Akarin, thank you for explaining your vote without me asking you, though I have to wonder why you didn't do it earlier.

I agree with 519 because I think that scum like to try to make it seem as if they are producing new content while saying nothing at all. Common techniques involve making a lot of irrelevant posts, summarizing the game while coming to few conclusions, and asking people for information while not using that information to make reads. That's part of the issue I have with Tictac right now, several of his posts feature a lot of commenting, but little solving. For instance, in 370 he gives one word answers to various questions and finishes by sheeping someone else. He's a player I would like to see a readslist from because I know little about what he thinks of the game so far. I also have issues with Saudade doing this, as I outlined in 404. His ISO is littered with naked calls for my lynch, reads made with little explanation, and shitposts.

[Garmr]

Be home tonight

[Purrcocet]

I liked lapsa delay in voting me. Like he considered it for some time without doig first. Shows thoufht.

"Like" like makes them more likely town or just like in terms of thinking being something you like to see in people?

great entrance

[davesaz]

@dave: what did I do that was scummy? First time this whole game I really feel like you mentioned me

The reasoning behind the Umlaut vote seemed sketchy. I thought it was odd where you were questioning Gamma on why he appeared to sheep it, but then being absent from the discussion when others questioned the same thing. Though I didn't really notice either you or Gamma's vote as weird in the moment other than to think you both were overlooking how Umlaut's vote was clearly a RVS joke based on how much I get wagoned/mislynched.

What do you think of how others have interpreted your unvote? I don't remember who it was you unvoted offhand and going to go eat dinner, but I want to post this so don't want to take the time to dig it up, but anyway surely you'll know which one I'm referring to.

[davesaz]

I liked lapsa delay in voting me. Like he considered it for some time without doig first. Shows thoufht.

"Like" like makes them more likely town or just like in terms of thinking being something you like to see in people?

great entrance

Quoting things without commenting on them isn't very productive.
Gotta go eat but couldn't resist.

[davesaz]

Gotta admit I'm rather disappointed that there is nothing new to reply to after dinner.
Meatloaf was good.

[davesaz]

ok so why does everyone think mala is scum?? about to do an iso on them now but 271 gives me town vibes

Can you expand on this a bit please?

[davesaz]

Got a chance to do a couple rereads

tictac -- weak town, mostly tone and a little bit of solving behavior.
Scioness Sajj -- weak scum, seems a little me-tooish and shallow

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ok so why does everyone think mala is scum?? about to do an iso on them now but 271 gives me town vibes

Can you expand on this a bit please?

4 of those replies were advancing the game instead of the stale one liners that most of those quotes are. I generally think that scums would kinda fluff the thread in a game so big to make it harder to find them.

& on another, but similar note, like ya everyone is going for popopopo but when I clicked on their iso button earlier they only had 11 posts, so I don't necessarily scum read them rn.
idk where everyone's votes are right now but what do you think about poopoo Dave? inb4 u already explained, gonna check now but if you haven't already pls feel free to share ur thoughts on that train

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ah yes, you did post a list of reads..got it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I dunno, I’m inclined to think Scioness isn’t scum atm just because of how little resistance their wagon has right now.
Like it went from no one saying anything to everyone agreeing they aren’t doing anything and a good lynch.

What Scioness wagon tho
Real talk, I’m hoping Scioness comes out to play if town because I recall her being at least decent in our last game

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm trying to recognize when I'm being senseless.

Point is that is a really hard thing to do

The rest, okay, so Lapsa thinks I have an informed POV...why?

Well, really, I do. I think Laps agrees, but can't be certain.
He pushed ya from a weird angle, I think, but may be a difference in how we read.

Ok
Could you explain what you mean by weird angle after Lapsa levels that out with you? (Or during that too)

[Gamma Emerald]

has not explained a single vote this game, this ends now

what an asinine vote

like the reasoning is self evident
it's a sheep

all of his votes are transparently policy or sheep

ok cool
still think it's not town

ok why

cause its not cause its not explained, which is literally why you voted.

so what is now the reason you think he's scum

He hasn't participated at all in discussion

It's like Gamma realized his vote on one of the people jumping on his wagon looked like a weirdly timed pressure vote and he had to turn it into a real read.

Yeah no it was always a real read. I just mixed up what I was trying to convey with my initial post.

ok actually...upon examining post 192 by gamma and looking further into gamma's iso, it makes sense and is up to snuff.
UNVOTE:
i don't think it is coming from a scum perspective, BUT i still do think scumhunting from rvs posts is dumb.

Why are RVS scumreads bad to you? I think it is fair as long as you don’t tunnel (this comes from a very bad experience with such occurrences)

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh lol I thought Akarin was going after me

[Gamma Emerald]

Like if Scioness is scum, are the partners going to come out with some big defense right now? Based on what?

they would probably say some shit like "wait why are we lynching scioness, I didn't see any reasoning its really sudden"

oh wait

Coming off a scumgame yeah that’s a typical response to a partner wagon
Forces out an explanation, allows for maximum pivoting to defense or bussing afterward

[Gamma Emerald]

vote:dave

i agree with akarin

Idk about this
It reduces the number of people on my wagon
But also goes after someone who called him out
So like it follows one strategy but mucks up another if scum

[Lapsa]

didn't find Akarin's entrance that great

although I don't find purr's misinterpretation mischievous and in fact do townread Akarin

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#542 sucks

Gamma "Definitely Not A Brickwall" Emerald doesn't really care about narrative

it's all about getting tictac off the wagon

same focus slipping out couple posts later:

It reduces the number of people on my wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi Mr. Taking Posts Out Of Context
Maybe you wanna read the full post? Or does that inconvenience your agenda?

[Io]

Yeah uh 546 is completely taken out of context there.
He was saying Popo’s suddne vote change was suspicions not that he’s trying to make people unvote him.
If anything it was a complaint that he unvoted.

Wow phone autocorrected unvoted into like 5~6 different words/phrases