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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:03 am

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In post 73, EzekelRAGE wrote:
In post 72, Doughboy wrote:
In post 69, EzekelRAGE wrote:You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.
No I made a statement based off my experience of you. 1 game is still better than no games.
Provide proof, otherwise this reads to me like you were trying to add fire to a wagon.
The game we played together where you thought I was scummy and basically wouldn’t vote elsewhere or even unvote when asked.

Do I need to link it?
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:04 am

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In post 74, EzekelRAGE wrote:My problem is your wording. It’s very misleading. If you said I played 1 game with rage and he seemed to vote scummy. I would’ve corrected you on the seem part.

Using typically to me implies you have a good range of data to go on,certainly more than one game.

If I go to the casino once and win 2k, I can’t go typically I win 2k at the casino, because I haven’t been enuff times to say that.
That’s on you. If you interpreted one way I can’t control that.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:12 am

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In post 75, Doughboy wrote:
In post 73, EzekelRAGE wrote:
In post 72, Doughboy wrote:
In post 69, EzekelRAGE wrote:You make this statement like we have played in a number of games.
No I made a statement based off my experience of you. 1 game is still better than no games.
Provide proof, otherwise this reads to me like you were trying to add fire to a wagon.
The game we played together where you thought I was scummy and basically wouldn’t vote elsewhere or even unvote when asked.

Do I need to link it?
All I did was ask you to provide proof of the statement that you made. You just said I thought you were scum that game, why would I do anything you ask me to?

You could barely come up with one example for your statement. There was no reason to even bring it up at all.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:13 am

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And I provided proof
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:16 am

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In post 76, Doughboy wrote:
In post 74, EzekelRAGE wrote:My problem is your wording. It’s very misleading. If you said I played 1 game with rage and he seemed to vote scummy. I would’ve corrected you on the seem part.

Using typically to me implies you have a good range of data to go on,certainly more than one game.

If I go to the casino once and win 2k, I can’t go typically I win 2k at the casino, because I haven’t been enuff times to say that.
That’s on you. If you interpreted one way I can’t control that.
His interpretation is reasonable imo
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:18 am

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Yeah I can see both sides here and I think it has everything to do with experience levels.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:35 am

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He was partly responsible for town losing cause he couldn’t get past somebody he found scummy to the point he defended scum which I pointed out already ye I can barely provide an example?

I’ll ignore him for now but if a wagon forms I’ll be happy to hammer
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:06 pm

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I don't think prior grudges are very conducive to scumhunting tbh, although I think meta can be a partial reason to vote for someone I don't like thinking of it as the main course? But it's good that you brought up his voting confidence, it is definitely of interest here.
In post 70, EzekelRAGE wrote:
In post 59, GuerillaWoo wrote:I'm not a fan of how he said "I read it as scummy". Like, clearly the origin of his 'suspicion' isn't a read, it's Alchemist's meta guess.

Feels like a good place to nest my vote rn VOTE: Ezekiel but I still wanna hear something serious from Saudade.
Well, can’t do anything about that, but it won’t be the last time you see that phrase or something similar to it from me.

Seriousness of the guess - my bad on missing/forgetting that part. Was reading thread earlier, was about to make post, got busy but tha part about lynching based on such a weak angle stuck out to me. When I got a little bit of free time again I made that post instead of going back and rereading that part. Only thing that changes is I view them as scummy for attempting it.
My issue isn't that you didn't read that he was serious, it's that you asked. My issue isn't the statement "I read him as scummy" in a vacuum, it's a pretty innocuous statement, it's the context you presented it in where it wasn't a read on a player, and it clearly wasn't one you reached on your own.

The first is an attempt to get permission from town to vote for someone. The second is a misrepresentation. Together, they read like you're trying to buddy up to the thread, both by piggybacking off someone else's early wagons and then by presenting yourself as scumhunting.

So, one last time, what are
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reads? Why is Doughboy your vote and not Scioness/Dva? Why did you immediately trust that Alchemist is town and not possibly scum gambiting for an early lynch?
Why is it feeling more and more like you're not going through a townie process?


Those are reasonable asks at this point
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:14 pm

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I am the best.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:09 pm

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EzekelRAGE can be town for now.

VOTE: Saudade

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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:16 pm

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In post 81, Doughboy wrote:He was partly responsible for town losing cause he couldn’t get past somebody he found scummy to the point he defended scum which I pointed out already ye I can barely provide an example?

I’ll ignore him for now but if a wagon forms I’ll be happy to hammer
Are you serious? Where did I defend scum in that game, back up the bs you are spewing please. You were scummy that game. I wasnt the only player who thought so since you were -1 from being lynched, 1 other town and 1 scum on your vote. Other town players brought up how you played a bigger role in distracting town from hunting scum with you arguing with another player. If asuska nvm cc’d you as scum in that game you were gonna try to lynch me or ff who were both vt.

Sorry for bringing up all this meta stuff, but he was the first to do it with a misleading statement.

You also keep flip flopping on reasoning. First it was I typically vote my scum read, which you haven’t proven. Then it’s i was so scum reading you I defended scum to vote you, which is false and you didn’t provide proof.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:25 pm

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In post 82, GuerillaWoo wrote:I don't think prior grudges are very conducive to scumhunting tbh, although I think meta can be a partial reason to vote for someone I don't like thinking of it as the main course? But it's good that you brought up his voting confidence, it is definitely of interest here.
In post 70, EzekelRAGE wrote:
In post 59, GuerillaWoo wrote:I'm not a fan of how he said "I read it as scummy". Like, clearly the origin of his 'suspicion' isn't a read, it's Alchemist's meta guess.

Feels like a good place to nest my vote rn VOTE: Ezekiel but I still wanna hear something serious from Saudade.
Well, can’t do anything about that, but it won’t be the last time you see that phrase or something similar to it from me.

Seriousness of the guess - my bad on missing/forgetting that part. Was reading thread earlier, was about to make post, got busy but tha part about lynching based on such a weak angle stuck out to me. When I got a little bit of free time again I made that post instead of going back and rereading that part. Only thing that changes is I view them as scummy for attempting it.
My issue isn't that you didn't read that he was serious, it's that you asked. My issue isn't the statement "I read him as scummy" in a vacuum, it's a pretty innocuous statement, it's the context you presented it in where it wasn't a read on a player, and it clearly wasn't one you reached on your own.

The first is an attempt to get permission from town to vote for someone. The second is a misrepresentation. Together, they read like you're trying to buddy up to the thread, both by piggybacking off someone else's early wagons and then by presenting yourself as scumhunting.

So, one last time, what are
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reads? Why is Doughboy your vote and not Scioness/Dva? Why did you immediately trust that Alchemist is town and not possibly scum gambiting for an early lynch?
Why is it feeling more and more like you're not going through a townie process?


Those are reasonable asks at this point
Confidence in voting- this is why I am on db. Him doing that is partially playing a role in you going after me, I read that as misleading and scummy. He brought up my voting confidence, i told him to back it up. How are you reading that and still believe db’s word on my confidence?

As far as you seeing it as asking permission- your wrong on how you interpret it.
Also, I never said I thought alchemist was town so why are you implying I did?
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:52 pm

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@GuerillaWoo I think there's some confusion about this:
In post 51, EzekelRAGE wrote:Are you guys serious about the Dva thing in regards to the replacement? Is so that is scummy to me.
It's ambiguous. You could read it to mean that EzekelRAGE thinks DVa is scummy; but in fact I'm pretty sure he meant the DVa
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:00 pm

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Gfdi I thought Tammy was in this game when I saw Tommy’s name
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:06 pm

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OHH shit lol my fault, totally misread that. I thought you were asking if people were serious about the Scioness thing so you could vote for that slot. Ye gonna have to reread and recontextualize some stuff.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:33 pm

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In post 84, Tommy wrote:EzekelRAGE can be town for now.

VOTE: Saudade

Content please.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:34 pm

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In other news I see like 3 different back and forths and I have not really much to say on any of them
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:52 pm

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Actually having reread the thread, and despite honestly having zero issues with a Saudade lynch on D1, this is where my vote belongs

VOTE: LTVNGambit
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:54 pm

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In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 84, Tommy wrote:EzekelRAGE can be town for now.

VOTE: Saudade

Content please.
Lol
You don’t get a guy like Saudade to do what you want by brute forcing him
You appease him
Yeah, again, zero issues with lynching someone that's contributing nothing and refuses to help outta spite.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:04 pm

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Who am I spiting here again?
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:05 pm

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GuerillaWoo, why LTVNGambit?

Gamma Emerald, do you think Saudade's posts are coming from town?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:06 pm

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I think my posts are not alignment indicative in the slightest Tommy
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:09 pm

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I can see that.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:10 pm

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Good vote though, you win games on this website often?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:15 pm

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In post 95, Tommy wrote:GuerillaWoo, why LTVNGambit?

Gamma Emerald, do you think Saudade's posts are coming from town?
Came in and voted Saudade then left. Think that was his only game related post. There's another user who hasn't come in at all afaik but I'm guessing the kick will catch him instead. I'd rather get people contributing rn tbh
Saudade wrote:Good vote though, you win games on this website often?
Yeah, again, not a single issue if y'all wanna lynch this guy. Don't care if he's scum or not. If he's scum he's just gonna linger in the background doing this shit, and if he's town he's just gonna linger in the background doing this shit. Lame

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