NY 215: HMS Erebus - Game Over!
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Io Mafia Scum
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It's kind of iffy honestly.
The whole saying that you don't believe a claim isn't too strong of a point for an AI argument.
There's good reason for both town and mafia to want to want to lynch/not lynch any particular claimant.
From a town's perspective pushing someone for being scummy even if they claim a powerful town role like Vigilante is not something is is unreasonable.
Then the mafia can really go either way with it as they can probably safely assume it's just Maifa v Town with how small of a setup it is. If it's not then it'd be an SK and they'd have equally as valid a reason to want to lynch an SK faking Vigilante.
They could just push the Vigilante claim to try and make sure they don't have to worry about getting night killed, or they could just back off knowing that they are town.
See what I mean though?
It's not really a good argument to say someone is scum just for pushing a power role claim.
There's also other factors like a Town Doctor might try and push to lynch someone claiming to be a Town Jailkeeper as a Mafia Roleblocker or something.Morituri te salutant. Et semper mortem memini.-
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I think he’s probably town for the point he presentedIn post 1174, Completly Trustworthy wrote:GE, what's your opinion of Performer now? You voted him in 1087, but then voted who he was scumreading in 1172. What did he do that changed your read of him?<Embrace The Void>
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I also think that making the push against Akarin seems towny, not because I agree that her behavior is scummy, but because it shows he is actively trying to sort others. It would be easy for him to only focus on getting someone else lynched and therefore saving himself, but he's instead describing how his reads are changing and trying to engage others. I previously scumread Scioness because I thought she wasn't taking many stances and was just throwing a few comments out to make it seem as if she was scumhunting while not actually doing it. Performer has changed that by being open about his opinions and having a more active presence in the game. In light of this, the people who are voting him while talking about all the things Scion did like Purrcocet seem to have thin justification for their votes. I think their reads should have evolved and the fact that they haven't make them seem artificial. Also, I would like an explanation from Nos as to what he meant in 1151 by I'll trust, I didn't understand what he was saying.-
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@Io yes I think I see what you mean. As town I’ve always operated with the approach that it’s too risky to scumread a claimed pr on d1. Even if someone were to say they’re a tracker and I’m the actual tracker, I think it’s best to be super secretive and hold off until d2 for a push. I saw so many cases in games where someone was an actual cop who counterclaimed a scum fakeclaim, but it ended up poorly for town – on d1. In any case, I approach games with a “play as if you’re vt no matter what” regardless of I’m vt or if I’m pr. That way if I end up dying, which is apparent in this case, I at least contributed as much as I can.
I really appreciate your explanation.
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@ct yeah scion has a very different playstyle than me.I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum.-Morality
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only one way to find outIn post 1100, Lapsa wrote:@Saudade will you hammer when Mala reaches L-1?Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
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How about we notNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Io Mafia Scum
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I'm like 99% positive perf flipping scum.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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l-2 i thinkNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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From the vote counter (not verified for accuracy). Both are L-3
Malakittens(5)~ Completly Trustworthy(69), Lapsa(87), Io(114), Garmr(65), Performer(74)
Purrcocet(1)~ Hugo Stiglitz(22)
davesaz(1)~ Akarin(34)
Completly Trustworthy(1)~ Saudade(125)
Akarin(1)~ Gamma Emerald(166)
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Oh right because gamma hopped off. Possible scum if Perf flips; then go to maybe GarmrNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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When you're salty I scum read youIn post 1192, Malakittens wrote:Oh right because gamma hopped off. Possible scum if Perf flips; then go to maybe Garmr-
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NahNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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