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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:52 am

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In post 293, DVa wrote:Saudade still good wagon
dva has the right ideas on the game here. might be scum, but I'm not lynching it this gameday.

saudade made some good posts but the way he approached ezekel feels like he knows ezekel is town getting tunneled, in that post he says he "deserves" some votes.

he is right that guerilla is town

I'm townreading tommy's re-entrance so I think saudade is 0/2 in his scumreads and is disappointingly not as good at mafia as he thinks he is, unless he is scum which remains a very solid possibility.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:53 am

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In post 794, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 775, Doughboy wrote:and that should be "lies aren't usually lies"

I really wish rage would take a step back and regroup. That is all I haved wanted from him the entire game. He doesn't want to do that, that's fine but now he wants to completely ignore me like I don't exist and that isn't fine.

I have questions I would like answered.
Ezekiel just said he’d ignore you
This is why I think you’re baiting him
But he shouldn’t be. He shouldn’t be ignoring anyone. What he should be doing is admitting his reason for pushing me was weak, because it is.

He should also explain why yet again he’s holding people to different standards. Guerilla gets a scum read for analyzing saudade’s wagon yet you get a null read?

I get a scum read for lying but gambit gets a null read when he was accused of lying?

He’s clearly pushing an agenda. Things can’t be scumtells for one person and not for the other.

I’m not baiting him, I’m trying to engage him on something other than the lies. I asked him a serious question which deserves a serious response. Ignoring it isn’t an option.

He can replace out if he can’t play well in the sandbox.

Can somebody else PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ask rage why it’s scummy for guerilla to look at saude’s wagon but it isn’t for gamma?

Here’s another one. Ask him why gambit is null when he lied also? Guerilla accuses gambit of lying and lying to him is a scumtell.

Cmon peeps. Let’s hold useless people accountable and get them to answer some god damn questions.

Hawk isn’t the only useless player.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:54 am

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In post 296, Alchemist21 wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 28, Saudade wrote:Lets play a game,
First to vote me gets lynched today.
In post 83, Saudade wrote:I am the best.
In post 239, Saudade wrote:Because I'm good at this game
In post 263, Saudade wrote:by the gods am I really that good
is it Tommy and Gambit


Posts like these make me think Saudade is Town. It’s a lot of attention-attracting bravado if he’s scum. What would scum him D2 if he was wrong on someone? Keep forcing that confidence after destroying his credibility? Also considering he hasn’t moved to the Guerill wagon to try and push a counterwagon to his own, I’m sure he’s Town.
ok but then guerilla acts very similarly and you think he is scum for it.

saudade's bravado isn't as hard as you think it is. once you get into the mindset of saying the type of stuff he is saying, you easily do it in both alignments cause you're just that confident you'll get away with it as scum.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:55 am

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In post 799, EzekelRAGE wrote:
In post 790, Toranaga wrote:
In post 177, EzekelRAGE wrote:@LTVNGambit Now that you pointed it out, it is odd that Guerilla hoped off that Suade train, especially with the post saying whether Suad is town or not, they have no problem with them Suade being lynched.
it's really not, it's just a pro-town unvote when the moment calls for it. guerilla could stay on that wagon hiding behind a grudge if he wanted to, and nobody would bat an eye at that. he unvoted cause he wants to avoid the very short gameday. guerilla is almost definitely town regardless of saudade's alignment.
I further looked at it. That posts outlines my thoughts on the unvote. I sided with it being more town move.
Great since he mentions the post here.

@toranga.

Now ask him why he found guerilla scummy for analyzing the saude wagon but didn’t find gamma scummy for it.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:58 am

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In post 317, Doughboy wrote:I see saudade still isn’t scum hunting. Why are people town reading him?

His bravado doesn’t sway me. That’s easy to fake as scum. Scum hunting isn’t easy to fake and it’s clear here since he’s done a bad job faking it.

@saudade please read this - viewtopic.php?f=49&t=30907

Thank you.
this is absolutely on point. I like db a lot this game.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:01 am

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In post 330, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 319, Doughboy wrote:Bring back the saudade wagon since hes probably scum, he’s not scum hunting and he’s kind of being rude
No. Thank wagon was very likely scum driven.
I'm gonna fall onto things I fall onto every game with you, gamma, and say that you cannot possibly be legitimately thinking this and you look very scummy for saying it.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:02 am

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In post 800, Toranaga wrote:
In post 293, DVa wrote:Saudade still good wagon
dva has the right ideas on the game here. might be scum, but I'm not lynching it this gameday.

saudade made some good posts but the way he approached ezekel feels like he knows ezekel is town getting tunneled, in that post he says he "deserves" some votes.

he is right that guerilla is town

I'm townreading tommy's re-entrance so I think saudade is 0/2 in his scumreads and is disappointingly not as good at mafia as he thinks he is, unless he is scum which remains a very solid possibility.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:03 am

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In post 339, Saudade wrote:oh so all those votes on me were random?
I'm pretty sure you're townreading everyone outside of the early random votes that went on you there. so why are you not attacking gamma instead? gamma saying the wagon was scum motivated is bullshit, saudade. how did you miss that?

you're not scum with gamma so wake the fuck up will ya
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:05 am

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In post 349, Saudade wrote:Doughnut might be cruising through an easy day just by tunneling me under the pretenses that im toxic, could be fake =]
you're not toxic at all

doughnut is giving correct reasons to scumread your posting. he is not hiding behind calling you toxic and you shouldn't misinterpret him as doing so. the person who was doing that to you was guerilla.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:06 am

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In post 356, Saudade wrote:very silly, almost unlikable, similar to Gorilla probably was on my wagon due to my horrible character
smalltown lean here to be honest I wouldn't lynch him so far
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:07 am

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In post 808, Toranaga wrote:you're not toxic at all
Incorrect. He became toxic when he violated site rules by discussing an ongoing game and threatening to bully me into replacing out.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:07 am

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In post 360, GuerillaWoo wrote:Also I think ProHawk forgot the game existed lol
In post 361, ProHawk wrote:.... naww just been busy work and probably just sad cause other peeps get all the attention and its weird for me not to be the D1 lynch nominee... BUT I did look at like one or two games of Saudade and he was a lot more cautious as scum, so his play here doesn't strike me as being very scum-like.
and this is how scum is currently playing on mafiascum

it's not even fun to play here anymore
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:08 am

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which slot did you replace in
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:09 am

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like the dude literally magically appears in the thread minutes after someone mentions him, after saying nothing for what, days? and look at this post my god.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:09 am

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pretty confident in my townread on gamma this game
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:09 am

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I subbed in for gambit
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 376, DVa wrote:Honestly i was starting to reconsider my read until mila kunis. How can you seem townie sometimes but also post so much garbage?
literally making people dislike him into scumreading him

these emotions from dva are towny at any rate
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:12 am

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dont side with people that think mila kunis is garbage
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:12 am

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yeah gambit was alright i guess ill give my read on prohawk some thought
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:15 am

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I heavily dislike guerilla's posting on a personal level on pg 16 and it's making me feel he might be scum, but I'm aware this might just be instincts from me and not scummy things he did.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:18 am

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tbh since i really cant solve this its probably one of the lurkers at least
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:19 am

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In post 427, Tommy wrote:UNVOTE: Saudade

I think that as scum, he would have lazily tunnelled me all day, and he hasn't. I don't know how he managed those town slips. Maybe they're real, maybe he's lying town, I don't know. But as a case on their own, they're pretty thin. I'm going to do some more reading and make a decision about the next move.
what the fucking cringe is this
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:20 am

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yeah tommy is a naughty boy who refuses to townread the best
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 431, ProHawk wrote:Tommy - Not a fan of his recent comment re: Saudade, sounded like a fabricated reason to get off Saudade. Could be scum.
DVa - Posts have been scummy, very probable scum - I'm voting here.
GuerillaWoo - I like his engagement, town read
Saudade - I looked back at his scum-game early on, granted it was his first scum game, but he is definitely a lot less crass than he is here. Leaning town
Flubbernugget - Need more.
LTVNGambit - Leaning town, haven't seen anything jumping out at me.
Alchemist21 - No real read here yet.... setting this in the null/sort pile
Gamma Emerald - No real read here either... setting this in the null/sort pile
Doughboy - Early town read. Still town.
EzekelRAGE - Posts feel town.

Majority of reads are from the gut, hard for me to engage stuff with all of the fighting going on in the thread.
this is always the lynch

look at the scumreadslist.txt this guy just made

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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:21 am

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k bedtime ill post with more clarity tomorrow

lurker tommy
lurker flubbersomething
lurker prohawk
lurker whoever else is lurking gon get rope
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