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who plays scum self-sacrificially what
I'll need more than gut on enigma to townread him
Or at least I'll need enigma to come make my gut feel it too
fair point re:HWS but I think that if he was scum that makes it more likely the other scum tries to hop on the wagon, knowing that if they don't it'll be a pure wagon. Either way I think a scum on the wagon is likely, and that if I'm right on that it's either enigma or someone widely townread like vex or skitter
Leaning the former because of the fact that town functioned well enough to hit scum
What was the case on the red slot? Lurkiness? Or like a real case someone put forward?-
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In post 1913, BuJaber wrote:
This line was funny to me. Sounds like it's from a cheesy old mafia movie.In post 1908, skitter30 wrote:if being at l1 would make you more motivated that could definitely be arranged
TW: were you reading the game at all before replacing in?
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yeah i was thinking about that game a bitIn post 1922, the worst wrote:ArcAngel's Jungle Republic is an ok show of me being this way as town but I hammed it up a lot
yeah *hammy* is a good word; this game doesn't really feel the same as that one to me tho; i'd have to go back and like reread that one to remember why exactly
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uh american presidents mafiaIn post 1923, ruru wrote:I'm asking about the opposite of bussing meta: games where you forced through scum agenda and got yourself lynched to set up your teammates to endgame
he let his partner bus him day3 and the partner rode it to like mylo
i don't really see him doing that here tho?
i'm not sure what it's indicative of that he isn't brining this up
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what is WIM?In post 1945, the worst wrote:yeah I know but also
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ok ejji could easily be scum. quick WIM on the catch up is super easy to fake. he's lurking during the bit where the game needs a fire lit under it. scum motive is p clear there
GEm doesn't feel right lmaoo
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i mean i'm still mildly townreading enigma and you're the person i want lynched sooooIn post 1960, Irrelephant11 wrote:If anyone wants my vote elsewhere do these two things:
summarize a towncase on enigma
summarize a scumcase on whoever you want lynched
If that doesn't happen, you'll have to wait for me to catch up more.
(literally the only reason why i'm not voting you right now is that the slot was empty for like a week)
enigma i'm kinda lightly townreading on tone + he seems to be the lynch target of multiple people i'm scumreading which makes me wary
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we should be lynchign scummy people, not people who haven't towntold; those aren't the same thingIn post 1967, Irrelephant11 wrote:-Just because it's not scummy of enigma to do the things laid out in 1157 doesn't mean it's towny of him
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i mean it was partially a compromise deadline lynch, at least for meIn post 1973, ruru wrote:ceejay only got lynched because a50 was also hard scumreading him and he was like universally nullscumread and I thought his reaction to tw's scumread was also scummy
a50 wasn't ever going to vote nm either i'm pretty sure-
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Oh sadIn post 1976, skitter30 wrote:i mean i'm still mildly townreading enigma and you're the person i want lynched soooo (literally the only reason why i'm not voting you right now is that the slot was empty for like a week)-
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I mean that in his position as scum I'm probably doing whatever to get town lynched d1 and claiming a guilty on town d2In post 1975, Irrelephant11 wrote:who plays scum self-sacrificially what
but tw kinda plays scum like a survivor so I don't know if him pushing ceejay is actually town-indicative-
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In post 898, the worst wrote:just gonna set the record straight.
your read on me here feels really over keen as hell.
those posts are me being me and just because you caught me as scum once in a doomed slot that doesn't have any bearing on my alignment (and nor does it mean I'm a free lynch for you to pull out of your hat wheneverthefuck)
currently slightly more likely a bad taken from town!you than a bad setup from scum!you but either way it's bad and I'm not sure how to feel about that yet
having said that you do have experience misreading town!me so it's probably earnestIn post 943, the worst wrote:
scumslip much?In post 940, ruru wrote:this game feels like a loss.
town is gonna wreck this shitIn post 1064, the worst wrote:@Creature mostly, Gamma slightly
sorry but with 48 hours to go I really am not gonna obvtown hard enough to get you all to settle down. all I can do is ask for a reevaluation d2.
I'm more or less fine with this game/list I'm just not warmed up and don't have that urgent energy yet.
lynch someone who's actually gonna flip red. or if I'm designated d1/n1 death lmk and I'll stop putting effort in.In post 1391, the worst wrote:{tw, larvitar}
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{a50, vex}
{skitter30, ruru, Buj, Gamma, ejji}
== null == {hot water service}
{NM, Enigma}
tragicIn post 1495, the worst wrote:anyway
not towncasing my pred. it's a waste of valuable meta when the outcome is predetermined to me. you'll all get over it
ruru more likely town for overbtinkjng it that far. I'm prolly overthinking herIn post 1499, the worst wrote:I'm at least gonna go down voting the mechanically correct slot. I want post-game bragging rights if there's no vig or this is traitor.
VOTE: NMIn post 1516, the worst wrote:didn't say it was a tell. I just feel like a few of you are too used to seeing me as scum to sort me without me energetically powertowning which I don't have the enthusiasm to do.In post 1598, the worst wrote:
ok so you literally witnessed what happened the last time I tried to bus so please tell me you actually think IIn post 1587, ruru wrote:I think tw's play has been results-oriented in a tmi way: he expects to deliver us a redflip and then not die as a result, without really scumhunting or doing anything else towny
*clears throat*
> rep'd into a scumslot
> decided to expose scum!cjv for towncred (?) when he'd just been dropped into his usual "too hard to read" bin
> cjv then spewed antiassociatives and then flaked from the game because.....?? he didn't like my bus strategy? waht
> I suddenly got really really good at bussing and changed my bussing ethos dramatically
like this conclusion is so vague and has nearly no thought behind it. I'd feel better if you jumped into the thread with a fucking fake guilty. seriously. stop tunnelling me and pay attention to the fact cjv and I were obviously not scum together.
actually fuck it this could be scum. will revisit later
hypo inno BujaberIn post 1616, the worst wrote:"being lazy town" is kind of a vague spectrum
are you looking for a game where I've had a hard time getting / staying engaged? I think it's more of a trending issue for me because I'm getting fairly bored of the game in a general sense
the more I'm thinking about it the more I'm liking this angle on my slot from you, I think I was just irritated by the conclusions being drawn too quickly fyi
one question tho: where is your awareness of your history of misreading me?In post 1679, the worst wrote:I still kinda think I want enigma.
I'm townreading everything above this line -----In post 1710, the worst wrote:and yeah my playstyle is rarely consistent which I think is why some people find reading me to be a pain in the ass
this sounds a little scum gloat-yIn post 1883, the worst wrote:Occum's razor would put scum in {you, hws} from the a50 flip but it's stupid as shit. he was just a good kill--he was not going to let the mislynch on me go through, had fast-moving reads and was set to reevaluate after d1 so
just a generally solid kill I think
How did you know I was comingIn post 1889, the worst wrote:In post 1487, the worst wrote:
I actually felt the exact opposite there.In post 1445, ruru wrote:like if you think the gamestate is losing, but you're too low energy to care, then you still shouldn't be scumreading me for having thought the gamestate was losing
for a moment things were starting to make sense but now they're wonky again. idk I'm probably overthinking stuff.In post 1488, the worst wrote:probably need a Fancy Post for this, we can go into it later or whatever
In post 1491, the worst wrote:In post 1463, ruru wrote:hws isn't here...
oh my bad this is actually a wrecking ball of common senseIn post 1464, ruru wrote:also the strength of my hws scumread is less than the strength of your ceejay scumread so probably we should just lynch nmIn post 1492, the worst wrote:
it does if someone is starting to kinda realising on a subconscious level that this isn't scum!ducky and you're twisting their arm back into lynching me.In post 1475, ruru wrote:that's personal bias and has nothing to do with winning the game
the main reason I'm netting skitter above the null line rn is the actual parallels she's drawing between me and other games. I think she's actually thought about this. she's just wrong and a part of me is pretty sure she realises to some degree that she's wrong.
you also clearly don't know Skyg's scum meta lmaoIn post 1495, the worst wrote:anyway
not towncasing my pred. it's a waste of valuable meta when the outcome is predetermined to me. you'll all get over it
ruru more likely town for overbtinkjng it that far. I'm prolly overthinking her
somewhere around here I started liking her but it's slightly intangible. I just think there'sIn post 1498, the worst wrote:
not before I'm lynchedIn post 1496, ruru wrote:
fancy post when?In post 1488, the worst wrote:probably need a Fancy Post for this, we can go into it later or whatever
I'm actually v/la over the weekend but won't qnnounce it because you fucks are mislynching me anyway
Just look for who should have known better and adjust reads accordingly lolan elephantof over thought nuance that comes from town!ruru long before scum!ruru
heyIn post 1948, the worst wrote:I mean welcome Rel
hey wait
this was rude!
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Welp I 100% meant to spoiler all of that, sorry everyone.
I guess I see your point @ruru about tw maybe choosing to push his scumbuddy for his own survival
I just think Occam's razor is that, until there's a surprising flip somewhere along the line, it just makes sense to assume the player pushing scum was town, especially given the wagon died and revived-
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enigma is some combo of gut/tone/good timing of posts that i dont' think i can explain better + most of the below-null camp have been pushing him and like none of the above-null camp have been
tw used to be my biggest scumread so i'm making progress; still don't feel like i can confidentally townread him but it isn't nearly strong of a scumread as it has been previously
and sure
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ok i'll start with hws since that's who alonzo replaced
i'm still a little dubious that he voted gamma over frank here (you ultimately replaced frank) given that iirc there were already votes on both frank and vexIn post 234, HeWhoSwims wrote:No big fan of Frank either for the same reasons as Gemerald/Vex
VOTE: Gamma emerald let's do this for now I think!
but i also thoguth this was a reasonable explanationIn post 257, HeWhoSwims wrote:Ruru why would it be expected town behaviour to copy your vote which iirc was the only one on the wagon
actually rereading this i'm not sure why he's assuming that there's a bp goon ('the' bp goon) and why he isn't assuming he might be a traitor or somethingIn post 497, HeWhoSwims wrote:I'm catching up in the middle of the vig talk and don't see why scum A51 would want to gambit bait the vig shot... As either alignment? I feel the only way to resolve this is shooting him and if he doesn't die he's theBP goon?Or is tired!hws being dumb here
and then he basically flaked and replaced and idk if that's ai for him
this is still bothering me; it makes me feel like he was trying to act surprised about a50 being dead; and that it took him a fairly long time to come up with like reads on anybody elseIn post 1595, Alonzo wrote:I'm town, I was gonna deathtunnel A50 today, so I need to re read and come up with a plan B
although i kinda believe this from the snakes and noodles game we just finished; he death-unneled nm throughout and i think he was scummy pushing a policy lynch but eventaually read a newbie where he did just that as town and realized that it's just a thing he very very strongly believes inIn post 1661, Alonzo wrote:@VV
I have a strict Lynch NM policy. A50 unvoting NM and saying I never vote NM is THE singlemost scummy post I think I 'have ever seen. Probably best he's dead, I would have dragged this game waaaay down by now =)
i'm also dubious about the gamma wagon in that the people i don't townread are voting himIn post 1703, Alonzo wrote:L-1?
still uncertain that he labeled hws as being 'townie af'In post 1724, Alonzo wrote:HWS was TOWNY AF
A50... mostly clown shoes..
Hws suspicion was well founded despite what you say captain hindsight. Also Im pretty sure HWS wasn't the only one sus of A50...
not sure why he's saying i said he/ejji is a team given that i didn't say thatIn post 1779, Alonzo wrote:
Boredom vote?In post 1776, skitter30 wrote:why has this game stalled .... ?
i have like nothing new to say
sure, let's see what happens if i vote VOTE: alonzo
How are me and Ejji a team here skitter?
i can kinda buy that he didn't have a read on me right awayIn post 1810, Alonzo wrote:Ok, I have reads on all slot sbut Skitter who will get their own post at a later time (cos meta)
all in all i'm kinda gut town on him rereading the whole thing in one shot?-
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I was on the NM wagon in spirit?
As I mentioned, I woulda been all over A50 today had things gone differently.. Doesn't change my alignment in this one. Its a bonus for Town A50 going down in this instance.
I suspect there will be a subtle nuance between Creature and A50's reads D1 that scum moved upon lest they be outed by A50...
As we are busy.. I will share some of the thoughts behind the reads I gave..-
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Wants It MoreIn post 1976, skitter30 wrote:what is WIM?
like the burning urge to win the game that radiates from some people's posts
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WHAT A WEIRD TYPO IN HINDSIGHTIn post 1979, Irrelephant11 wrote:How did you know I was coming-
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ok but you're literally wrong on more than half of those reads. statistically. it's just seems weird you're avoiding players based on wagons when you're wrong on so many sub-null readsIn post 1989, skitter30 wrote:i'm also dubious about the gamma wagon in that the people i don't townread are voting him
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