also what's bothering me about this is that it's incredibly ephemeral; like you were just voting implosion and you keep bouncing people in and out of this listIn post 1328, Music and Mail wrote:What if anything here do you have an issue with imploIn post 1277, Music and Mail wrote:ok
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that's the townblock from now on
Besides me obviously
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If I'm town can I say that you're... pretty dang arrogant for thinking that you can read me that confidently despite your past success record? Like if you're right on me you're claiming to be basically alone in a category of people who successfully confidently scumread me. Is this really your self image of yourself? Like idk dudette.In post 1348, skitter30 wrote:still prob like 80 times out of 100
i really don't think you're town here-
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your'e saying that literally the only game i confidentally townread you was the one you were actually scum in?In post 1349, Music and Mail wrote:Keep in mind that for the vast majority of people, I'm scum a higher percentage of games they call me town than games where they call me scum. And you are absolutely part of that category. Does knowing that really not give you any hesitance about tunneling me like this?
not particularly? you were trying to pocket me there so
i literally can't think of a single game where you felt this wrong and like strong-arming lynches and scumreading like all the townie people really besides for the time you forced a 1v1 with math (when you were scum) and other things i can't talk about right now
i play a lot by meta and i don't have anything good to compare this game too; nothing feels similar to this one so i can't really compare past games to here-
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i mean ok? i still think we process that question differently; to me 80% is confident but not 'claiming to be basically alone in a category of people who successfully scumread me' confidentIn post 1351, Music and Mail wrote:
If I'm town can I say that you're... pretty dang arrogant for thinking that you can read me that confidently despite your past success record? Like if you're right on me you're claiming to be basically alone in a category of people who successfully confidently scumread me. Is this really your self image of yourself? Like idk dudette.In post 1348, skitter30 wrote:still prob like 80 times out of 100
i really don't think you're town here-
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a lot of people have come along who have professed the ability to read me accurate and they haveuniversallyfailed.
I don't particularly enjoy playing scum anymore but I maintain my scumgame out of a sense of obligation. I would be very happy to get to the point where my scum game becomes actually sortable by someone. but I'm not holding my breath, and I'm not going to commit self sabotage to make that day come faster.-
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it certainly isn't!In post 1362, skitter30 wrote:honestly i don't think that this percentage convo is super edifying or useful
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congratulations! now in the future when you correctly scumread me no one is going to take your read seriously, and that's the problem with all the people who would deal with my scumgame by trying to lynch me all the time. no one's going to give a shit next time either of you call me scum. scum!me wins every time that you derptunnel my towngame.-
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the thing about giving a 30% scumread is that if I'm wrong, I don't actually lose a large amount of credibility if i call you scum more strongly in a future game.In post 1367, Music and Mail wrote:no one's going to give a shit next time either of you call me scum.
the flip side is of I'm right, I also don't gain a large amount of credibility.-
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and that's the beauty of having literally no one that can read me correctly- there's really no rational reason why anyone should listen to you because everyone knows you can't read me.
everyone also knows that everyone else can't read me, so I don't really have effective defenders either, but it's just a soup of apathy towards my slot.
it's enough to keep me alive as scum, but unfortunately as town whenever I'm too scary scum can gang up on me and then I'm out of the picture.
It's enough for me to discredit you in future games as either alignment. which I will do. if you want your read to be taken seriously start correctly townreading me first.the thing about giving a 30% scumread is that if I'm wrong, I don't actually lose a large amount of credibility if i call you scum more strongly in a future game.
the flip side is of I'm right, I also don't gain a large amount of credibility.
which was the advantage firebringer had, that he usually correctly read me as town so his scumread meant something.
because I am trying very hard to find the solution to this game in spite of your best efforts to stymie that.how the hell do you have 5x as many posts as me ...?-
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Again, I appreciate the misleading rhetoric of pretending this game is already flipped with you as town - nicely done. But yeah, I recognize this entire thing is just you being rhetorical, and that's fine. If you are town then a sample size = 1, almost-zilch-above-baseline-level-of-confidence incorrect scumread is ultimately pretty meaningless, and I know you know that. And Idk if I'll really wind up playing enough games with you in a short enough timespan for that sample size to become meaningful.It's enough for me to discredit you in future games as either alignment. which I will do. if you want your read to be taken seriously start correctly townreading me first.
which was the advantage firebringer had, that he usually correctly read me as town so his scumread meant something.
I'm pretty sure I have like one completed game with you where i was town, that was like 2-3 years ago lol. I went back and looked out of curiosity and actually there's some perhaps sage advice to be gleaned there. You replaced in and I initially misread you as scum (it looks like it was partially a PoE read, and partially an actual play-based scumread) on the day you replaced in, then on that day we lynched a traitor (leaving 1 scum alive) and overnight I correctly read you as town based on associatives from the traitor and I roleblocked the last scum.-
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In post 1460, RadiantCowbells wrote:I may not always hit scum but I'm usually pretty obvtown.
Which is nice as well
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