Considering the plan that I came up with, do you now wish you had nightkilled me on night 2?
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LOL, so you already knew I was a PR? Nice. It's actually pretty funny because I've now completed three newbie games, and I've been a town PR in ALL of them!In post 676, RCEnigma wrote:It was unfortunate for Ceejay really, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sorry for replacing out but thumbs up Cheeky for really showing you were Townie.
Volxen was super strong post claim. I called it by the way, I could see how that first game influenced your play and halfway through Nova's case on you I was just like damn he rolled a pr AGAIN lol.
Sky and Ceejay could clarify this for us, but I think the reason Sky tried to nightkill me on night 1 (rather than Ceejay) is because I listed Ceejay as one of my top scumreads on day 1, whereas I had Sky as a nullread. They probably anticipated that I would jail one of my scumreads (NotNova, xwing, or Ceejay), and didn't take into account that I would hardcore case Sky during the night.In post 678, Thor665 wrote:Ceejay was basically doomed to lose the moment he claimed and his partner was caught.
Probably would have benefited them to have Ceejay perform the kill on Nova not Sky - that way at least if he was jailed he could have tried to argue the lack of the kill was due to him being the target. I think trying to kill Nova prior to Volx was a reasonable idea - they just lost track of which scum was never going to make it past lylo.
Pretty solid game all around, I think a lot of town played *really* strongly. Look forward to seeing you all catch more games.
If you'd like me to offer more specific feedback on your play this game feel free to ask and I'll do so.
I can also offer any insights you'd like on my play, or any lingering playstyle/game theory questions you may have - my IC duties don't end with the game
In post 674, volxen wrote:@CheekyTeeky, sorry I guess I made you put in effort into casing Reundo and Thor for no reason.
Yeah this town was amazing for a newbie game. I'm really impressed with the newbies.In post 681, Skygazer wrote:This was a scary game to play scum in and I honestly thought I was replacing into a town slot >.>
Lol it's funny because I've had the following happen in the three newbie games that I have played:In post 681, Skygazer wrote:This was a scary game to play scum in and I honestly thought I was replacing into a town slot >.>
first time to call scum team correctly yeeeey!! anyway sorry town i played really poorly especially at the start..what was i thinking..ugh..i dont think i could ever recover zzzzzz..In post 525, xwing wrote: if we extend volxen's scenario A and then think we're on column C instead of A, i will daresay both ceej/sky scum team..ceej avoiding to do the kill from fear of being jailed by volxen coz of suspicion..then volxen correctly jailing scum!sky preventing the kill..
you called it out indeed..how did you figure it out??In post 676, RCEnigma wrote:It was unfortunate for Ceejay really, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sorry for replacing out but thumbs up Cheeky for really showing you were Townie.
Volxen was super strong post claim. I called it by the way, I could see how that first game influenced your play and halfway through Nova's case on you I was just like damn he rolled a pr AGAIN lol.
i know right?!?!?!In post 673, volxen wrote:I'm glad it played out this way, I would have felt bad mislynching poor xwing. Why did you have to do so many suspicious things, xwing! lol
I kind of was starting to feel a little bit of doubt about you being scum, but I didn't want to say anything too early as I didn't want you to get too comfortable and think that you were out of the woods. In other words, I wanted you to keep posting under the assumption that you were still definitely going to be lynched today, so I could continue to evaluate your posting knowing that you were writing your posts under that assumption. I wasn't sure if your whole "I'm OK with you guys lynching me if it will help us win the game" was genuine, or if it was reverse psychology to perhaps guilt trip us not into lynching you. Especially since Ceejay did the same thing when he said "You guys should probably just lynch me", which of course we now know in his case was reverse psychology to try and get town points for himself.In post 685, xwing wrote:first time to call scum team correctly yeeeey!! anyway sorry town i played really poorly especially at the start..what was i thinking..ugh..i dont think i could ever recover zzzzzz..In post 525, xwing wrote: if we extend volxen's scenario A and then think we're on column C instead of A, i will daresay both ceej/sky scum team..ceej avoiding to do the kill from fear of being jailed by volxen coz of suspicion..then volxen correctly jailing scum!sky preventing the kill..![]()
good job everyone twas a fun game! think i learned a lot here!
thanks mario for modding!!
@volxen: CT's gonna kill you for forcing her to do extra work hahaha! but i think correctly jailing sky when she targeted you was the best play of the game definitely!!!! (though i still dislike VCA logic and stubbornness to lynch ceejbut i blame myself lol)..
@thor: sorry for my early attitude towards you..dunno but i really felt really annoyed/exasperated at your slot early on.. :-s
i had a lot of questions during the game, i should have listed it down! i'll just jot down some that i remember..if you would be so kind..
1. why were you so adamant of not lynching claimed doc until lylo for this specific game, given the very suspicious nature of it?
2. near the end of D1, we were having trouble deciding who to lynch but universally didn't want to no-lynch..as town who is holding the swing vote, what's the play to make?
3. how do you ask the "right" questions as town? conversely, what do you use as a guide to call someone town or not? i notice you dont give these out hastily/easily..
Yeah, but I would suggest it doesn't matter as you could at least argue that scum had shot at Ceejay (we still might have lynched him if he'd been jailed regardless, but by the time you're claiming a PR you're pretty much a dead scum slot anyways).In post 680, Skygazer wrote:That's correct, I thought CJ was much more likely to be jailkept than myself. Whoops :p
No worries, I get that reaction from people semi-regularly when not in live or voice play situations. I think there's something about my way of phrasing things that comes across charming when you hear me but a bit dickish just in text format. I keep tossing in smilies, but it's still a struggle I am aware is on my end sometimesIn post 685, xwing wrote:@thor: sorry for my early attitude towards you..dunno but i really felt really annoyed/exasperated at your slot early on.. :-s
i had a lot of questions during the game, i should have listed it down! i'll just jot down some that i remember..if you would be so kind..
1. why were you so adamant of not lynching claimed doc until lylo for this specific game, given the very suspicious nature of it?
2. near the end of D1, we were having trouble deciding who to lynch but universally didn't want to no-lynch..as town who is holding the swing vote, what's the play to make?
3. how do you ask the "right" questions as town? conversely, what do you use as a guide to call someone town or not? i notice you dont give these out hastily/easily..
I also, CT was making a areally excellent town xwing case.In post 688, volxen wrote:I kind of was starting to feel a little bit of doubt about you being scum, but I didn't want to say anything too early as I didn't want you to get too comfortable and think that you were out of the woods.
LOL yep, in my first game that's all I did was hardcore tunnel on our IC, who actually turned out to be town. But in my defense I wasn't the only one who did, as RCEnigma was in that game and we both hardcore tunneled the IC together.In post 691, CheekyTeeky wrote:Thor I think newer players tend to be more suspicious of ICs being scum. His tunnel on you could be construed as scummy but if you'd stepped back from his tunnel his thought processes were very townie particularly in the beginning of his ISO. No way scum can verbalise and be flexible in an argument like he was in your guys thunderdome.
Ngl...I did tooIn post 692, volxen wrote:LOL yep, in my first game that's all I did was hardcore tunnel on our IC, who actually turned out to be town. But in my defense I wasn't the only one who did, as RCEnigma was in that game and we both hardcore tunneled the IC together.
I was reading Volxen Townie for a lot of the same reasons I read him town in the first game I played with him (he was doctor) but in that game he was nightkilled for obvtowning without softing his save (MeIn post 686, xwing wrote:you called it out indeed..how did you figure it out??In post 676, RCEnigma wrote:It was unfortunate for Ceejay really, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sorry for replacing out but thumbs up Cheeky for really showing you were Townie.
Volxen was super strong post claim. I called it by the way, I could see how that first game influenced your play and halfway through Nova's case on you I was just like damn he rolled a pr AGAIN lol.
It was multiple things that added up to Ceej being scum. I wanted to lynch him EOD1 and thought his doc claim was fake - I asked noone to counter because either the real doc would remain hidden and save the JK or scum were forced to keep the JK alive to preserve their claim. It was a bad claim because if there is an RB it is optimal play to RB the JK and kill the doc N1, followed by killing the JK N2. I was even more confident when you guys were all obv town. When I had to reread Thor vs Reundo it became like 100% certain after all the different avenues were explored and after seeing the other scums interactions. Honestly I'm not much of a mechanical player so I find it easier to tone/intent read peoples posts.In post 694, xwing wrote:how were you so sure that ceej was really scum on your last few posts? how do you manage to be so freaking townie?!?!