Mini Normal 2033: Dolphins (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

gfdi
I finally finish my reading and now you have to read

[Toranaga]

notes: part 1

I'm reading the whole thread and making notes as I go so I'll refer to them later. posting here for convenience but I don't know how interesting of a read this will be for anyone else.

ok let's get to it:

Spoiler:

#3: dva replacing scioness. this was brought up as maybe AI for scioness as she doesn't like to play scum, but it's been denied that this is AI because scioness was actually taking a break from all her games.
#5: this is already towny for alchemist, jumping on that replacement thing. I think it's very unlikely they're scum together at least.
#7: tommy sheeping this vote feels awkward. I think town would like to explore alchemist's statement instead of just sheeping it, so I'm suspicious of tommy's mindset. small thing.
#9: dva's entrance.
#11: from alchemist is a very strong point against dva. she got 3 votes and isn't commenting on people voting her. alchemist/dva are pointing to not being svs all the way. alchemist is towny.
#28 and #30: from saudade. I don't like this. saudade is definitely smart enough to be reading into the interactions from p1, and his response to alchemist reads like a fake excuse and not something saudade actually believes. saudade's reaction to alchemist saying dva is scum because scioness subbed out implies saudade didn't read anything before posting. I dislike his reaction too, it's a little over the top. #31 to #36 feel off.
#45 from tommy. I find it scummy to be arguing that things are NAI like he is doing here. there's no purpose for this post at all.
#47 from guerilla is a very good post with a very good vote given what happened so far.
#49 from gamma is strange. he is defending saudade but I don't think saudade was being towny to be defended, as he gave 0 thoughts on the game so far.
#51 from ezekel. scumreading people for reading into scioness replacement as scummy. this is yet another player reacting oddly to alchemist's suggestion. not sure what to make of it, but if scioness does replace out as scum a lot cause she hates it, what's scummy about suggesting the replace out is scummy? I don't understand this post. #54 is a bad follow up too.
#56 from guerilla. this is a good push on ezekel, and I agree with the reasoning. instead of voting players who he finds scummy, ezekel is just randomly pointing at no one in particular as scummy instead of just voting someone, as if he was asking the thread for permission to scumread people, as guerilla pointed out. this is good. guerilla very towny here, alongside alchemist. ezekel, saudade and gamma don't feel towny so far.
#59 from guerilla. ~always town IMO.
#60 from dva. bad vote, but it's understandable that she is defensive here. and voting tommy isn't bad.
up to #67 from saudade are awful posts. the ones calling dva's name ugly but not AI are awkward, and then the way he approaches ezekel on #67 is the scummiest post of the game so far. it's coming off as commentary on people's actions and behaviour without trying to draw a read on their alignment. it reads really weird to me. saying ezekel deserves to be voted for his presentation, when the idea behind it isn't scummy, is weird levels of treating ezekel as if he knows ezekel's alignment. why is saudade doing live coaching on ezekel's posts? does he think they're towny, or scummy, or what?

also a note on this: saudade is saying ezekel's idea isn't scummy, so is it towny? "not scum-like" implies the idea itself is NAI to saudade. if the idea is NAI, then ezekel is not excused for acting scummy around it, so why is saudade not phrasing this as a scumread? this is so scummy.

this will take a while.

[Toranaga]

I actually have to go lmao

I guess hammer ahead :shrug:

be here tomorrow if you don't

[Saudade]

Go you are bad at this anyway

[Toranaga]

I'm bad lately ngl

[Saudade]

it's okay ill carry

[Toranaga]

don't think wilky is scum now reading his ISO

halfway through p1 but if he is scum he is very good

[GuerillaWoo]

Why was he “dumb”?

He was wagon hopping based on spite, clearly the one inflaming the big argument, and then acting like "ok you guys you know this whole big argument is a distraction from scum hunting"

So I wondered whether he was bullshitting himself or just plain dumb. Question yet unanswered. That dude had no sense and I'm glad he flaked.

Okay
I thought it was a reaction to him voting you

It was. I mean he'd just voted for me cuz I told him to shut his trap and not answer for DB when I ask DB a question.

[GuerillaWoo]

My actual scum list is gamma/creature. Gamma for that awful claim and other stuff and creature just cuz their interactions felt forced, like creature knew to use my alignment to call our back and forth TvT to quickly clear Gamma. Then they were just slightly, very meekly, abrasive to one another. Ngl I was pretty keen on lynching Ezekel today and Creature hasnt made that go away. He was my first proper read and we should've lynched him D1. Way I see it that whole fight with DB was him muddying the waters then trying to get some townie cred by faking an end to the fight for town's sake.

Wilky and Toranga still null, I think my issue is I can only read people when they're not doing catch up or when their catching up makes sense with what's currently going on. Toranga at least is here regularly and doing his best. Wilky can eat rope rn, idc. I guess my concern is if he flips town we're gonna have to work extra hard D3 but it's getting pretty dull in this game. Just hammer him already.

Tommy went from "I'd bet money he's town" to a soft lean. Saudade is solid and comfortable here. Flubber got townspewed so thx gamma. Alchemist wild card town. Could totally end up being scum, but I doubt we'd catch him.

[Saudade]

don't think wilky is scum now reading his ISO

halfway through p1 but if he is scum he is very good

YOU FORGOOOOOOOOOT THIS

[Saudade]

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[Alchemist21]

You gotta start making pictures with these vote cascades.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone around rn?

[Saudade]

sup

[Gamma Emerald]

If nothing gets brought up between now and whenever I wake up in the morning I’m hammering

[Tommy]

Please don't hammer before Wilky or a replacement claims.

[GuerillaWoo]

There are 27 hours left. Wilky was prodded at 7 pm UTC. By 7 pm UTC today the search for a replacement will start. That gives us 22 hours starting then for a replacement to be found by the mod and then come in and get read by us with a spontaneous claim.

Gamma, Toranga, and Alchemist: you need to decide whether to wait on this hammer with Tommy, get it done, or present a new compromise lynch.

[Tommy]

Well let's see if the mod announces a deadline extension before you start blackmailing people into hammering an empty slot.

[GuerillaWoo]

Yanno actually, if we go into a no lynch D2, would that be bad? What's the meta on that?

Also Tommy do you know what blackmail is? Where am I blackmailing anyone? Just do something, I'm so god damn bored here.

[Gamma Emerald]

A no lynch would prolly suck with what I’m thinking the setup is

[Tommy]

I agree. A wilky lynch is better than no lynch. Maybe I should have said pressured rather than blackmailed.

[Alchemist21]

Fuck it. I’ll hammer him. If he hasn’t shown up by now he’s not going to and frankly I’m just ready for the game to move on, claim or no claim.

VOTE: Wilky

[Tommy]

Hmm, you appeared to have more sense than that.

[Saudade]

inb4 he flips scum and we glare at Tommy

[Gamma Emerald]

inb4 he flips scum and we glare at Tommy

big mood