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I think you need to reread end of day 2. Enigma was definitely a viable lynch
In fact chickadee wasn’t the obvious lynch; if NSG hasn’t been replaced and her replacement decided to vote chick, then chick wouldn’t have been lynched at all????
And I voted chick over prof Fridays which I think is a good enough towncase for myself given the flips
Or better yet, tell me what feysal has done that’s hard to fake?- ofrhz
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Wtf whyIn post 1842, Myloninja13 wrote:
Yeah, I like this and I doubt scum makes a post/point like this.In post 1825, Feysal wrote:
So what? Neither has GuiltyLion, and he is not scum either. It would be much easier to lynch scum if you knew who they were.In post 1789, ofrhz wrote:Why? He hasn't lynched scum.
This is an extremely simplistic reason to suspect someone, especially in endgame. I would expect better from town. That guess about something supposedly making me scum was also horrendously vague. And what was that about Kokichiprobablybeing the last scum if you're wrong? You of all people should know that with absolute certainty.
You know, my conclusions from interactions with flipped scum are what they are, but that does not mean I should ignore the players themselves. From my point of view, the situation is extremely simple. One of Ofrhz, Kokichi and myself has to be the last scum, so from my point of view it has to be Ofrhz or Kokichi. More importantly, whoever the last scum is, he needs two mislynches to win.
This isIn post 1787, Kokichi Oma wrote:I don't scumread Feysal either. So I'm fine with lynching me and then Ofrhz.notscum trying to get two mislynches in order to win. I don't believe scum would have excluded me from the lynch pool like this. Ofrhz however reversed his read on me the instant the fortunates had claimed. Obvious scum motive right there.
As things are, if I'm going to be voted out, I'd prefer it to be today. At least, in light of recent posts, I don't want Kokichi to be lynched.
I'm trying.In post 1818, Myloninja13 wrote:To Koki, Feysal, Ofrhz, can you all give a bit about why you should be townread?
It is that simple. I have always been more motivated by town than scum games. I have put more work into this game than I would have as scum, including meta research and analysis. I could possibly fake some of that, but if I were scum I would probably not bother.
What the fuck is the scum motivation in reversing my read after the flips? And how is this different from other people reconsidering their reads (like Kokichi who is doing the same thing? We can’t both be scum mate)? All I see is bad omgus
He doesn’t even have recent town meta that you can verify- Kokichi Oma
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Exactly why it can't be my plan. Because I would try to help town win if I was scum to be in this spot with more towncred than notIn post 1848, Myloninja13 wrote:
This post is kinda weird because it's like it's a plan that already happened? If you were scum and you're in a position that "Isn't that bad" then......In post 1832, Kokichi Oma wrote:
It seemed like everyone knew what they were doing and I didn't wanna mess it up. Besides odds were that even if a fortunate was made as scum I'd be in this position which isnt that bad. Could have also killed fortunate as wellIn post 1815, Myloninja13 wrote:There's an argument for Koki!Scum purposely not doing anything yesterday so there'd be no new fortunate, and both Feysal and Ofrhz contributed...How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Myloninja13
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Let me tell you a funny story that happened to me today. I took my rabbit, Max, to the vet and said, "My rabbit is cross-eyed... is there anything you can do for her?"
"Well," says the vte, "let's have a look at her." So, he picked Max up and examined her eyes, then took her temperature.
Eventually, he said: "I'm going to have to put her down."
Naturally, I was horrified. "You're going to put her down just because she's cross-eyed?"
"No, because she's really heavy."
Here's the enigma solved @Mutant- Myloninja13
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Let me tell you a funny story that happened to me today. I took my rabbit, Max, to the vet and said, "My rabbit is cross-eyed... is there anything you can do for her?"
"Well," says the vet, "let's have a look at her." So, he picked Max up and examined her eyes, then took her temperature.
Eventually, he said: "I'm going to have to put her down."
Naturally, I was horrified. "You're going to put her down just because she's cross-eyed?"
"No, because she's really heavy."
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I already explained this. It was embedded in the very post you quoted even. Scum needs two mislynches in order to win, and you downgraded me from town to scum immediately after you found out I was not fortunate.In post 1851, ofrhz wrote:What the fuck is the scum motivation in reversing my read after the flips?
Kokichi wasIn post 1851, ofrhz wrote:And how is this different from other people reconsidering their reads (like Kokichi who is doing the same thing)?notdoing the same thing, not even close. If he were scum he would need two mislynches too, yet he was fine with the lynch pool consisting of you and himself, ruling me out. Since then you appear to have talked him against me, but his change of opinion was at least in response to points made against me, as bad as they were. You however reversed your read instantly, because youguessed something.
Speaking of reconsidering your reads, what exactly have you done? You said I had not lynched scum, and the fact that this also applies to confirmed town GuiltyLion should tell you something about how credible this is. You said everything I had done could be faked, but provided no examples or scum motivation behind any of it. You said Prof Friday flipped town, and conveniently forgot he was your suspect to begin with. You even accused me of bad omgus, while ignoring the scum motivation for your actions I had already explained. You have not done your due diligence. I see no sign of you reconsidering your reads, you are just grasping at straws trying to make me look bad.
The funny thing is, before today I was leaning toward Kokichi being the last scum. I was still thinking that way after looking at interactions with flipped scum. And then Ofrhz opened his big mouth and talked himself into my prime suspect. Nicely done.
If I get lynched today, I expect Ofrhz will do everything he can to evade responsibility. Don't give him the time of day. Just impale him on a stake, pour gasoline over him and light him on fire.
Just in case the solution needs to be in lowercase and without spaces, here it is.
letmetellyouafunnystorythathappenedtometoday.itookmyrabbit,max,tothevetandsaid,"myrabbitiscross-eyed...isthereanythingyoucandoforher?"
"well,"saysthevte,"let'shavealookather."so,hepickedmaxupandexaminedhereyes,thentookhertemperature.
eventually,hesaid:"i'mgoingtohavetoputherdown."
naturally,iwashorrified."you'regoingtoputherdownjustbecauseshe'scross-eyed?"
"no,becauseshe'sreallyheavy."- mutantdevle
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In post 1857, Feysal wrote:letmetellyouafunnystorythathappenedtometoday.itookmyrabbit,max,tothevetandsaid,"myrabbitiscross-eyed...isthereanythingyoucandoforher?"
"well,"saysthevte,"let'shavealookather."so,hepickedmaxupandexaminedhereyes,thentookhertemperature.
eventually,hesaid:"i'mgoingtohavetoputherdown."
naturally,iwashorrified."you'regoingtoputherdownjustbecauseshe'scross-eyed?"
"no,becauseshe'sreallyheavy.""Unfortunates!"
"You have passed."
"Ooo they think they're so clever, don't they!"
"You have passed, therefore one of you will become a fortunate.
But before I award the lucky unfortunate, who do you think the saboteur was?"I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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Guilty Lion died during the night. They are a fortunate:
Spoiler: Fortunate
How do you feel about being trapped:
"shitty, because the game isn't over yet. I really don't know who would be scum between Koki and Feysal if it's not ofrhz. My best guess is Koki, he feels town by tone but nothing outside of fakeable range and aside from the Pine tunnel he hasn't done much to push scum. Neither has Feysal tbh, but Feysal feels a lot more overall engaged/genuine? Both of them feel fairly town though so if ofrhz hasn't died and I'm dead I'd bet the game on scum!ofrhz"I mostly just lurk now.- mutantdevle
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The next challenge is: Random.org.
A random number between 1 and 10 is chosen.
The town then has 3 tries collectively to guess the number.
After each guess, I will comment whether the correct number is higher or lower than the number guessed.
Guess the random number within the number of tries and you win the round, if you run out of guesses then you lose the round.
Each round, the range of possible numbers will be multiplied by 10 and the number of tries you have will go up by 3.
Eg. On round 2 you would have to guess a number between 1 and 100 with 6 tries, On round 3 it will be between 1 and 1000 with 9 tries.
Guess a number by typing!guess #
To pass, you must win the best of 3 rounds.
There is no deadline to this challenge.
If you have any questions then now is the time to ask.
Each time, the mafia are told what the number to guess is.
I'm really sorry about the delays in the game as I'm very ill at the moment. That said, I will still be checking this thread to answer guesses and advance the rounds.Last edited by mutantdevle on Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:56 am, edited 1 time in total.I mostly just lurk now.- Myloninja13
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Okay so I'm not even going to try with this tonight lol, but basically here's some questions for both of you to answer please
What makes yourself town this game?
What would you have been doing throughout this game if you were scum?
What's your biggest regret of this game so far?
Obviously feel free to start casing each other, but I'd like this questions in particular answered- Myloninja13
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I'm town because if my interactions with Pine cant be scum vs scum. I pushed on him hard day 1 and my progression on him is genuine and was consistent throughout most of the game. Especially when he was lynched. I tried to fool scum into thinking you'd be a potential mislynch to see if they would vote you to save pine.
My if I was scum I'd be more helpful with the challenges, because at a certain point like I was saying yesterday. There is no downside to that, especially when it can boost your towncred late game. Looking back on yesterday how feysal answered the riddle code so fast was more suspicious than I thought considering i was working on it all night and feysal seemed to do it instantly. Scum likely has the answers given to them.
My biggest regret was not forcing people to vote pine day 1. Because he had lots of scum equity at that point but I was swayed by others to vote elsewhere. Also not looking into pine's weird read on chickadee and realise it was weird because they were partners.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Feysal
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So, here we are. This is not the outcome I wanted, I hoped the game would either end, or I would be dead. But I suppose it is better that I'm left alive, if it had been Ofrhz he probably would have been next.
I think I already answered this yesterday, at least in part. I've spent more effort in this game than I would as scum, particularly in meta research. If I were scum I would have no need to do it since I would already know who was town, and since I've never liked playing scum I would probably not have been motivated to go through the trouble just to pretend.In post 1867, Myloninja13 wrote:What makes yourself town this game?
Another reason is Enigma. There is no way I would have targeted him. If you look back at the end of day four, I did not just explain my vote, but I gave all my reads. That challenge had taken very long and I needed to sort out my reads, and at the time I expected either GuiltyLion or myself to be targeted, so I shared them. Also, remember how I said GuiltyLion was above suspicion, while I expressed some doubts about Enigma, as did GuiltyLion. Fortunate or not, I could never have gotten GuiltyLion mislynched, so I absolutely would have targeted him, especially since it would implicate Enigma.
Now I have one more reason, and this might be controversial, but here goes. It involves you.
I started three mafia games this summer. One ended a month ago. Another ended last week, so now I can talk about it. It was Game Throwing UPick, as you should know, since you were also in it. And the fact that you were in it presented me with a problem. As you may remember, you were very lurky and inactive at the start of that game, and Nauci in particular was convinced you were scum for it. You may forgive me for saying so, but you were a mislynch waiting to happen, and I would not even have needed to get my hands dirty. But instead, I defended you based on meta. Did you ever wonder why I did it?
The answer is this game. Here you were cleared by Northsidegal, and I then looked at your meta myself trying to establish solid reads on you both. And having done that here, I could not stay silent in the UPick either. I had to defend you in both games. If I'd only done it here, the inconsistency could have gotten me lynched. That is why my hand was forced, and I had to defend you, even though we really wanted you to be mislynched. Of course, this problem only existed because I was scum in the UPick and I am town here. If I had been scum in both games, I could have just ignored the meta and let your mislynch happen.
I would have tried to mimic my town play. It is pretty much the only way I know. I would have helped with the challenges too, especially the easy ones, which town was likely to succeed in anyway unless the scum went out of their way to sabotage them, exposing themselves in the process. Simply put I would have tried to survive, and killed whoever was the biggest threat at night.In post 1867, Myloninja13 wrote:What would you have been doing throughout this game if you were scum?
Listening to Ofrhz yesterday. It has been a week, but I was pretty frustrated at the time, especially after seeing his long analysis with his vote. If he had posted that during the day, I might not have voted him and the game could be over.In post 1867, Myloninja13 wrote:What's your biggest regret of this game so far?
Also, I recognize I should have looked at Kokichi more closely. He was town in my other game this summer, and was lynched over me in a truly bizarre turn of events. That may have clouded my judgement.
In response to what Kokichi said, while I recognize that he pushed Pine hard, it is suspicious how Pine never reacted to it. Also, the challenge yesterday really was that easy, at least for me. Besides, the partial solution Ofrhz posted of the first line helped a lot.- Myloninja13
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As in, the specific people? Why would the other person have chosed those people to kill?In post 1873, Myloninja13 wrote:Placeholder question just in case I don't get to this today lol:
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