Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Elsa Jay]

Well it doesn't say it

won't

heal multiple attacks. It just Says "heal any attack done to target". That implies multiple protection.

[Aristophanes]

Well it doesn't say it

won't

heal multiple attacks. It just Says "heal any attack done to target". That implies multiple protection.

It may imply any sungle attack, as is standard...

[Tails]

I asked about the doc because I wanted to know how it interacted with my role. A50 said something interesting, but I want to make sure that Elsa actually has that information. Like I said, asthetic and BP are weird choices for a doc, even if 3p.

p-edit: Yeah. A50 was very explicit about doctor variations and protecting against one attack a night. I was led to believe that if both me and a doc protected X, and X was shot twice, I'd die.

[Aristophanes]

Single*

[Tails]

Also, wouldn't an ascetic that blocks a lightning rod full block them? I thought ascetic worked like a reflexive roleblocker.

[Aristophanes]

It depends on the understanding of the role!

Ascetic could be effected by LR as roles are pulled towards LR not yargeted by them.
Ascetic could be immune as they roleblock just the target upon themselves.
Ascetic could roleblock fully causing the whole action to fail.

All are reasonable readings of the interaction, and Id rank them in that order for reasonableness.

[Tails]

Eh. After reading the wiki and the mod post, and knowing how the mod views things in terms of roles, it probably doesn't. That's probably something that can be double checked tomorrow.

[Elsa Jay]

He explained it as more of the Ascetic stopping the passive from affecting them, but because it's not "direct", it doesn't go for them I guess?

And wouldnt a Roleblocker like the one speculated via flavor make the LR useless unless the LR is ALSO rb immune?

[Tails]

There's too much wine down that rabbit hole. I don't want to go there atm. I might drown.

[Aristophanes]

I will gladly drown in a good cab sauv!

[Reasonably Rational]

@Tails: Doc, vig, joat, pgo, investigative (watcher, specifically) would have all been satisfactory.

-Cerb

[Tails]

Well I'm not any of those, so I'm not going to claim them.

[Reasonably Rational]

Fair. Just saying that I had a list of reasonable roles that support the clues pointing to you as river.(which was the only nonscum reason for that post from nico)
-Cerb

[Tails]

I don't really care who I'm supposed to be. I have guesses, but I wasn't putting that much importance on Chickadee's result. If everyone else does, they're more than welcome to.

[Tails]

Going to bed now. Vote Ari or consolidate elsewhere. Good night.

[Reasonably Rational]

Hey Elsa. You're currently voting for a no lynch, effectively, and and no lynches mean the game swings towards scum, which means we have to lynch you out of paranoia sooner.

So you might not want to do that with 24 hours or less left

-Cerb

[Thor665]

Like, if Nico/Tails is not town, they gotta basically be a 3p Simon/River or something.

Please explain how you arrive at this conclusion. It seems to rely upon Chick being honest. But if it

does

rely on that, it also has a huge logical flaw.

Chick's supposed day one cop was TPFKAP and the clue was not in any way related to the actual character that TPFKAP was... except that A50 decided to make Dobson aware that the HoB teams exist and aligned him with them. In terms of the show/movie ... there's no connection between Dobson and HoB.

So if the

first

clue didn't show the actual character ... why do you assume the second does?

~D

Lot to unpack here - in order;

I arrive at the core conclusion of Chick being honest for the reasons I already said - please describe to me, in presumed multiple kills multiball, his scum strategy behind claiming what he did. I'll wait.

It is quite possible the clues show faction - in which case showing HoB and showing Serenity crew is a very functional clue that is internally self consistent.
I agree that within the show/movie Dobson and HoB aren't connected - since the flip shows that in this game they are connected this is a meaningless note with no connection to what I'm saying (other than as a valid rebuttal to Cheeky deciding River couldn't be 3p)

I do not assume this. that said, I *do* assume that it is more likely that clues showing nothing but Serenity crew is more likely to suggest a town aligned target - which I'll agree is different from your theory that showing Serenity crew apparently means that's who scum are hunting ergo scum role PM. Ockhams feels very much on my side here, and at the very least if you can make the leap you did I am curious why you're so freaked out by my leap?

The claim is meh for not having targeting listed initially.
So now it's crappy claim and crappy 2 thing vs. Cop claim video interpretation.
I'll do this and suggest a bodyguard should be living on the Daycop;

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Reasonably Rational]

Like, if Nico/Tails is not town, they gotta basically be a 3p Simon/River or something.

Please explain how you arrive at this conclusion. It seems to rely upon Chick being honest. But if it

does

rely on that, it also has a huge logical flaw.

Chick's supposed day one cop was TPFKAP and the clue was not in any way related to the actual character that TPFKAP was... except that A50 decided to make Dobson aware that the HoB teams exist and aligned him with them. In terms of the show/movie ... there's no connection between Dobson and HoB.

So if the

first

clue didn't show the actual character ... why do you assume the second does?

~D

Lot to unpack here - in order;

I arrive at the core conclusion of Chick being honest for the reasons I already said - please describe to me, in presumed multiple kills multiball, his scum strategy behind claiming what he did. I'll wait.

It is quite possible the clues show faction - in which case showing HoB and showing Serenity crew is a very functional clue that is internally self consistent.
I agree that within the show/movie Dobson and HoB aren't connected - since the flip shows that in this game they are connected this is a meaningless note with no connection to what I'm saying (other than as a valid rebuttal to Cheeky deciding River couldn't be 3p)

I do not assume this. that said, I *do* assume that it is more likely that clues showing nothing but Serenity crew is more likely to suggest a town aligned target - which I'll agree is different from your theory that showing Serenity crew apparently means that's who scum are hunting ergo scum role PM. Ockhams feels very much on my side here, and at the very least if you can make the leap you did I am curious why you're so freaked out by my leap?

The claim is meh for not having targeting listed initially.
So now it's crappy claim and crappy 2 thing vs. Cop claim video interpretation.
I'll do this and suggest a bodyguard should be living on the Daycop;

VOTE: Aristophanes

I didn't understand what leap you were making. Occam's Razor is equally in place for both assumptions. Both are single step and neither requires any special privilege. It falls into "what did A50 decide was the link when designing the setup?" territory, and we simply lack the relevant information to move any closer to answering that.

~D

[Thor665]

Yeah, except mine is far more likely.
Scum images = scum
Town images = town.

Yours is less likely
Scum images = scum
Town images = scum

You see those as identically likely?

[Thor665]

Also, as mentioned and you didn't rebuff - Chick is more likely town, so the info is more likely factual about what the results were.

[Jingle]

VOTE: Ari

BG claim buys Tails a day imo. At the very least, his role seems likely to just solve itself.

Tails, you should ask A50 if you're allowed to use ridiculous bullshit to crumb your target.

Specifically, number of letters/words/punctuation marks etc in your PM.

Like, there are between 0 and 40 words in my role PM after the word Chickenlicker. If that number is 1, I'll target blah, etc.

[Jingle]

FWIW, I agree that Chick should be the prime protection, but leaving a vague WIFOM open that she might not be is worth it.

And EJ? I'd protect Chick over Tails any day.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Almost50 this game uses NAR correct?

[Malakittens]

VOTE: ari

[BuJaber]

I think that's L-2