Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Aristophanes]

Fuck I forgot about the mason claim.
GDI!
They read so badly though!

Also, noted. I've seen it a few times but didn't connect it to a single slot.
Also didn't realize you started all the PM stuff. Why did we do this?

You just made my job harder.

[Elsa Jay]

Bujaber, have you seven looked at Elsa's early play? Hint: bring up their ISO, and search for the word "neutral".

It's pretty fucking obvious.

-Cerb

Yeah, that Neutral is my favorite thing I want to play one day and I used Tora to get a free claim and use it for town's benefit. But now it's worn out it's purpose.

[Reasonably Rational]

Fuck I forgot about the mason claim.
GDI!
They read so badly though!

Also, noted. I've seen it a few times but didn't connect it to a single slot.
Also didn't realize you started all the PM stuff. Why did we do this?

You just made my job harder.

You're making your job harder by not voting for Tails, who you claim is one of your scum reads, while you're in the process of being lynched.

I originally asked because Drixx and I thought our role fit Book well, and Flicker also claimed their role fit Book well. In addition, our role PM had extra text in it that the sample role PM did not. Thus, we wanted to know if they had anything in their role PM that paralleled what we had(which specifically mentions the ship), to see if perhaps we were just wrong and we were another member of the crew. They were very resistant to the idea of saying anything about their role PM, too resistant(they doth protest too much and all that), and then scum flipped with an explicit warning that town does not have flavor, which explains flickers overblown(imo) reluctance to saying anything about what fluff may be in their role pm.

-Cerb

[BuJaber]

Jingle claimed mason with gamma. Falls under the same category as the BG claim except they're even more likely to die. Scum can wifom but they risk giving us 2 IC's. Day 4 or 5 if both are alive we lynch one. That confscums or locktowns the other.

Pedit - maybe but I for one didn't notice until people said it and I reread. There's no reason to believe a 3p crumb. There's no reason to brag about it. I couldn't come up with a scum motivation for it even if there's TMI there but when everyone thought Elsa was 3p he was unlikely to flip so the TMI was likely never going to be proven. Now Elsa may not like that long.

Also yeah fine lynch Tails but I don't want to vote for him because he made it personal and I want to show him he can be lynched without my vote. Ari slot isn't better playwise good scum equity on this wagon too.

[Aristophanes]

K I'm at L-2 with a day left and intent to self hammer.
Imma be straight as fuck with you guys.

The reason I am okay dying is that I'm a Vengeful. I an one of the crew and I figure it was to be Jane or Mal. The former because he's likely to shoot from the hip when shot "I was aiming for his head!" from the first episode for example. Mal makes sense since he's ever bitter and vengeful after the war.
I originally thought Simon/River but less sure now.

If I flip Jane, Tails is unlikely BG but it should still be tested I guess.
If I am Mal, one less 3p out of the way! Mala would leave and the game continue. I have confirmed this with A50.

I basically am trying to figure out who to shoot to best forward the game now.

[Reasonably Rational]

Bujaber, have you seven looked at Elsa's early play? Hint: bring up their ISO, and search for the word "neutral".

It's pretty fucking obvious.

-Cerb

Yeah, that Neutral is my favorite thing I want to play one day and I used Tora to get a free claim and use it for town's benefit. But now it's worn out it's purpose.

It wore out it's purpose immediately, and you should *still* be lynched because your entire reasoning used for making the claim is terrible(as in, unbelievable, and you've shifted from "hey, maybe they're actually just neutral and we can win with them" to "hey, they're lying scum and should fucking die". The claim came unprovoked, and you're NOT someone who would be getting shot early.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

K I'm at L-2 with a day left and intent to self hammer.
Imma be straight as fuck with you guys.

The reason I am okay dying is that I'm a Vengeful. I an one of the crew and I figure it was to be Jane or Mal. The former because he's likely to shoot from the hip when shot "I was aiming for his head!" from the first episode for example. Mal makes sense since he's ever bitter and vengeful after the war.
I originally thought Simon/River but less sure now.

If I flip Jane, Tails is unlikely BG but it should still be tested I guess.
If I am Mal, one less 3p out of the way! Mala would leave and the game continue. I have confirmed this with A50.

I basically am trying to figure out who to shoot to best forward the game now.

Are all your targets on your wagon?

-Cerb

[BuJaber]

No if there's a chance you're Mal we shouldn't lynch you

VOTE: Tails fuck ego

[Aristophanes]

Are all your targets on your wagon?

I don't rhink they have to be? Standard vengeful don't have that caveat.

No if there's a chance you're Mal we shouldn't lynch you

VOTE: Tails fuck ego

Why not? Is he more important than the rest of the crew in this game?

[BuJaber]

Simplest explanation for Tails to single me out of all the other people that voted him earlier: I was the easiest to mislynch.
He didn't read but he has skimmed some ISOs he would have seen how many people scumread me.


Pedit - to maximize town utility
I mean you could still be scum fake claiming obviously

[BuJaber]

Nsg started off okay.. then kinda lurked then repped out
The true test of nsg's alignment seems to be when she is about to be lynched but that never happened

Selfvoting as vengeful is more likely to happen than non venge I'd say. It's not a town exclusive modifier but I'm skeptical that scum!you would lie about contacting the mod regarding the Mala interaction.. especially when he has stated it himself.

[BuJaber]

You can make a more informed decision if you get lynched at a later day.
You could still be NK'd but hopefully with the amount of protectives we have that shouldn't happen soon

[Aristophanes]

I dig it Bu!

Does BG sound like a safeclaim to anyone else?

[ruru]

votecount

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Aristophanes (6):	Tails (3364),	CheekyTeeky (3377),	Elsa Jay (3404),	Thor665 (3441),	Jingle (3445),	Malakittens (3448),
Tails (5):	Reasonably Rational (2914),	Flicker (2952),	Chara (3104),	Gamma Emerald (3361),	BuJaber (3482),
CheekyTeeky (2):	Light Ethos (2985),	Nancy Drew 39 (3312),
Chickadee (1):	Toogeloo (2872),
Light Ethos (1):	Chickadee (2988),
Not voting (1):	Aristophanes (3470),

(expired on 2018-10-29 22:00:00) remain.

[BuJaber]

Safeclaim for anyone not reading the thread.
We've had a lot of claims that are protective and/or imply a healer flavor of some kind.

Like is the whole serenity crew a bunch of doctors and bodyguards?

[Aristophanes]

I thought they were a wild west crew of gorram outlaws!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Tails
Thus was probably my venge if killed today. High suspicion slot with a meh claim and suspicious play.

[Aristophanes]

Tails, wanna 1v1? hat could be fun

[Almost50]

@Almost50 this game uses NAR correct?

NAR is the main reference, yes. But I wouldn't say I'm following it to the book. If in doubt, better ask me in a PM about how certain roles interact with each other.

[Aristophanes]

@Almost50 this game uses NAR correct?

NAR is the main reference, yes. But I wouldn't say I'm following it to the book. If in doubt, better ask me in a PM about how certain roles interact with each other.

^ that's how NAR works
Do the typical interactions and consult it if necessary.

[Jingle]

The fuck do we have a vengeful claiming they’re going to shoot a bg for?

The fuck do we have a player targeting the town killing roles outside of scum for?

Both of those are incredibly stupid.

Also, lynching a vengeclaim, especially one that might solve mala is, yknow, optimal.

If ari venges in town, and is town, no town can die tonight. All protective should holster, and vigs become disloyal. Which means that they can pseudoconfirm town. Massclaim tomorrow, lynch rr or ct if they claim vt, vengekill me if you want to confirm gamma town. If we have two town flips, scum will aim to cross kill or shoot 3p.

[Aristophanes]

^^^

K jingle is town again (I mean, mason too but w/e)

Jingle who do I shoot if not Tails then?

[Jingle]

I’d prefer one of the contention slots that hasn’t claimed, like ethos or nd. I’m a legitimate option, because my death does confirm gamma and docs the entire crew tonight.

[Jingle]

Check with a50, but there’s a chance you flipping mal confirms mala fakeclaiming, in which case mala.

[CheekyTeeky]

I thought McMenno claimed Mal.